Broken Sanctum: Luna Clan Worldbuilding

Necare
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March 28th, 2015, 9:38 am #1

Welcome! To the worldbuilding topic for the Luna Clan, centering on the sequel to Devastation and Reform! Here is the general worldbuilding thread. Each Clan will have one of these public worldbuilding topics. These are here to help us craft the specific lore of our Clan. But before we get started, we have some basics to cover. Here they are.
[+] Rules

- Temple Leaders and Seconds will have final say for their Clan's worldbuilding, but all worldbuilding will be public and subject to input from the rest of the Temple.

- You may only have one character, barring special circumstances permitted by the GMs.

- Your character must share your alignment. If you are in Mars Clan, your character is in Mars Clan.

- Every character has a Djinni, including Clanless. Your Djinn does not have to match your element, but if it does not, it can't come to your plane with you, or travel to any other plane it does not match. How much you involve your Djinni is up to you.

- No one is eligible to make their character a Clan Leader or Second. We are taking measures to reduce the dickwaving that ran rampant in D&R. It was fun, but people ended up getting caught up in doing cool stuff, without actually accomplishing much. As such, the GMs will more or less control the Clan governments (using RP events to influence what, if anything, we have them do). Leaders and Seconds will appear as NPCs, if at all.

- All PC characters possess a shard. Shards are what allow an Elemental to travel to Weyard and the other planes. Theoretically, a rare amount of NPCs also possess shards. Let's say 5% of the population. Anyone with a shard was born with it.

- It is likely that in many instances, a combat engine will be used to determine the outcome of battles. We will figure out a system with different factors. HP, types of units, rock/paper/scissors weaknesses, alliances, etc.

- We may implement a rating system or a way to indicate the current state of relations each Clan has with the others. RPers can affect alliance strength or other aspects of their Clan's stats in the battle simulator based on what their characters do. GMs will confer and make changes accordingly. On the other side of this coin, outcomes of battles will likely lead to in-RP consequences for the players and the course of the plot.
[+] Setting

- There are six Elemental Planes, and Weyard, the nexus world.

- Each plane has two gates: one that leads to their home territory on Weyard, and one that leads to the "central" gate on Weyard, in the Radiant Land. The Radiant Land, for those unaware, is near the center of Angara, basically Apollo Sanctum from Dark Dawn, and the surrounding area.

- Each plane's home territory on Weyard is located in the area surrounding their Elemental Rock; they are great sources of Alchemy and over the centuries have altered the landscape to a degree to favor the aligned element.

- Luna and Sol now have Rocks of their own; Sol's is in the northeast, Luna's is to the west, so the Rocks form a rough wheel shape. Muh balance.

- Home territories will be reasonably large, housing towns or cities, as well as being the area from which its Clan begins any campaigns of war.

- The Radiant Land is no longer inhospitable; in fact, a large city called Sanctum was founded there. It is the only true neutral ground in Weyard, and home of the Waywardens.

- Mt. Aleph and the surrounding area has become the Zone of Alienation (better title pending). It possesses a heretofore unseen degree of Alchemical malleability and responsiveness. None dare venture here, and there have been claims that unnatural beasts are born within its boundaries.
[+] Factions

- There are two main types of characters: Elementals and Clanless. Elementals are beings of pure Alchemical energy, and possess slightly malleable forms. Clanless are traditional humans, but possess an astounding resistance to psynergy, and in general are extremely skilled in worldly arts: physical combat, crafting, music, etc.

- If you are an Elemental, you are also an Adept. You are only an Elemental in your home plane. On Weyard, or in another plane, you are an Adept, and become respectively weaker. You are weakest in the opposite plane. Only Elementals can travel to other planes. Clanless are stuck on Weyard.

- Each Clan will likely have something of an animal motif that governs the physical characteristics their Elemental forms possess. The idea so far is reptiles for Mars, avian life for Jupiter, aquatic life for Mercury, mammals for Venus, and bugs for Sol and Luna. Sol will likely have winged insects such as dragonflies, bees, and praying mantises, while Luna may focus on scorpions, centipedes, ants, and others. These will be examined more in these worldbuilding threads.

- Union between an Elemental and a Clanless produces a like Elemental.

- Union between like Elementals produces a like Elemental.

- Union between two different but non-opposing Elementals can produce a child of either element, but not both.

- Union between two opposing Elementals produces a Clanless.

- The Waywardens are a large force of neutral peacekeepers based in Sanctum. Comprised of Adepts and Clanless alike, they forsake all ties to Clan, plane, and family, choosing to remain on Weyard to protect the innocent from the Clan Wars and to ensure Sanctum remains a bastion of peace. They control access to the central gate. Their leader is Clanless.
I think that's most of it! Some things will be subject to change, so you can give input on those as well. The names for the Wayward, the animal motifs, etc. Now, let's start worldbuilding our Clan! Here are some guiding questions to get your juices flowing, and feel free to ask questions of your own. I may have forgotten to mention something.

What is our plane like? For my part, I'm picturing an endless black void with no moon, but filled with stars that give everything a soft luminescence. Possibly subterranean cities, lots of smooth black rock, slightly reflective and transparent. An environment that would really screw with things like spatial awareness and depth perception for an outsider.

What is our psynergy like? Don't think in terms of domains. Do we control shadow? Is it solid? What about entropy, the ability to accelerate the natural process of degradation in matter? Remember, no OP stuff.

What's our technology level? Rudimentary, or maybe high-end magitech? What feels right?

What about our culture? What do Lunarians value? What matters to us? What widespread talents or traits do we have? Do we have religion? More than one?

Government? Aside from the Leader and Second still existing as positions, how do we function? Tying in to this, this is CLAN WARS. We are actually going to have wars this time, and that means military brainstorming, lots of it. Unit types, doctrine, anything you can think of. Let us have it.

What is the general trend in our appearance? What animal motif would you prefer to the ones already suggested?

There, that should get you started. Don't feel like you have to dive into every point at once, unless you feel like it of course! Just share your thoughts with us, whatever they are, even if they don't neatly fit into any of those categories.

Also, one final word on which I will not be moved: no edgelord bullshit. We are not evil for the sake of evil. We don't have bloodsport, we don't torture people, and we are not a tyrannical dictatorship. Nor or we composed entirely of thieves, assassins, spies and sleeper agents all serving a dark government of secrets and lies. Not this time.

Keep in mind this does not mean that you can't make a character who is an assassin or something. Just that that is not how most of the Clan functions, nor is it an in-RP stereotype. If I start noticing a trend in Lunarian characters, there will be >________>'s to go around.

Have fun!

EDIT: Okay, it's taken like a year but I am now going to be editing in all of the worldbuilding that has been done for Luna since this thread was created, both inside and outside it. I have done my utmost to collate and organize and stuff will continue to get filled in, most likely throughout the RP. All the basics and essentials should be present though. It's already a fricking massive infodump, so any clarifying questions or details can be asked for in the thread or relevant skype chats, I don't mind answering them repeatedly. HERE WE GO.
[+] General
[+] Culture
The two main focuses of Lunarian culture are chaos and kinship. For Lunarians, chaos is the essence and embodiment of life, and they value change over most anything. This does not necessarily imply a focus on change that is "better" or "good" or "progressive". Change itself is the ideal, not where it leads. Lunarians view attempts to control or master life or nature in a way that promotes an unchanging status quo with incredulity, even outright contempt or fear. They despise stagnation, and believe that efforts to preserve the present are not just wrong, but inevitably futile. Many Lunarians actively pursue this ideal and view themselves as agents of change, oftentimes to the consternation of others who do not share their values. Darkness is a frequent symbol of potential change and limitless possibility for them.

Conversely, change has no value if people don't remember what things were like before. Thus Lunarians also value history, memory, and the preservation of art and knowledge. While they do not allow themselves to become mired in the past, they respect it as a reminder of how far they have come and a record of change. The stars symbolize this for them: fixed, beautiful, and a guide to where they have been and where they have yet to be.

Kinship is also a core aspect of Lunarian culture, due in large part to their history, the manner in which their society came together and developed. They subscribe to the idea that to help the individual is to help the whole; to harm the whole is to harm the individual. Most things a Lunarian does are unconsciously weighed on this unofficial scale. The more widespread an impact a particular action or achievement has, the greater the consequence, positive and negative alike. This has led to the Luna Clan as a whole being fiercely defensive of its own. While this has its benefits it can lead to unfortunate dilemmas, such as placing the survival of the Clan itself over the lives of individuals. Additionally, betrayal and anything that can be viewed as treason are often severely punished according to how much damage these actions do to the Clan. Things like unauthorized sale of information or large scale black market transactions of planar resources, as an example.
[+] Psynergy
Entropy

Lunarians have the ability to accelerate or initiate the natural decay of an object or energy, harnessing entropy in order to break things down and induce change. Entropy is almost entirely a destructive force; in certain circumstances it can be used to craft or shape things, but its work cannot be undone, at least not by Lunarians themselves. Entropy can affect physical matter or psynergy, but is typically most effective when being used on one or the other. Attempting to break down the physical and psynergetic bonds of something, or attempting to break down multiple things of varying natures, can significantly reduce entropy's potency. Entropy psynergy can be broken into two specializations: Ruin, which is the breaking apart of matter or energy and purely destructive, and Disruption, which requires more finesse and involves breaking down bonds to achieve specific outcomes or effects.

Shadow

Shadow psynergy is the practice of harnessing and commanding the "memory" of a thing, and is fueled by psynergy/Alchemy. Lunarians can use it to take hold of and reshape Alchemy of the five other elements for their own ends. It has two distinct manifestations.

If used in an environment with "active" Alchemy, typically combat, a Lunarian can harness the non-native psynergy and use it to infuse their own, allowing them to "cast" psynergy of other elements. This psynergy is still Lunarian in essence, and manifests as a ghostly reflection, silvered or shadowed in appearance. The more skilled a Lunarian is, the greater degree of control they have over shaping the psynergy. The basest use of Shadow is no more than reflecting the brunt of the psynergy away from the individual, which can result in friendly fire. More refined applications allow the Lunarian to reshape the energy as they like, even changing the "nature" of the spell: if a Mercurian attacks with ice, the Lunarian may shift it into water. The greater the degree of control and reshaping, however, the more potency the spell loses. This specialization is sometimes referred to as "Mirroring" or "Echoing."

If used in an environment with "inactive" Alchemy, simply drawing upon the latent energies in Weyard, Shadow psynergy manifests as incorporeal shadows, which have a variety of stealth and illusion applications. This specialization is often called "Masking."
[+] Aphelion, Luna's Plane
[+] Fauna
Wisps

Exactly what they sound like, wisps are small creatures that manifest as fuzzy, flickering flames, ranging in size from a fist to a small child. Most often white in color, some of them appear tinged with faint blues or pinks, though it is hard to be certain in the strange light of Aphelion. As far as anyone can tell, wisps do not eat, produce waste, or reproduce. Some doubt they even think at all, and many question their classification as living creatures, and not simply another strange phenomenon of Lunarian alchemy. These people, however, are never Lunarian, for only Lunarians have heard wisps sing. Records differ as to whether Lunarians learned how to sing from the wisps, or if it was the other way around. Regardless, from time to time wisps will sing for no apparent reason, and on truly rare occasions, multiple wisps will gather together, forming a chorus whose gentle coos, hums, and wails carry for miles throughout the plane. Oftentimes Lunarians will join them, and there have even been times where it is the wisps who join a choir of Lunarian voices unbidden.

Many Lunarian families will keep wisps as pets, insofar as a half-phantom creature that does not appear to socialize or play can be called a pet. Wisps are able to phase through solid matter at will, and as such are impossible to contain. Sometimes a wisp will spend a scant number of days in a single location before moving on, while others have been known to spend years with a single family before vanishing, never to return.

Wisps are capable not only of surviving outside Aphelion, but seem able to adapt to any alchemical environment. When Luna gained a foothold in Weyard, the wisps followed soon afterward. Capable of surviving even within other planes, wisps will often take on new hues of vivid color depending on their surroundings. The reason for this is unknown, since as camouflage it is ineffective. They are utterly silent outside Aphelion. Impervious to physical harm, they can be affected by psynergy. A wisp will swell if exposed to concentrated psynergy for a sufficient length of time, eventually dissipating altogether. It is not known if this truly "kills" a wisp or if they merely reform later in a different location. Since they leave behind no corpses nor produce anything of value, most people are content to leave them be. Wisps are pretty, to be sure, but virtually everyone agrees they are useless.

Meres

The existence of meres went unnoticed among the inhabitants of Aphelion, for just how long no one can say. Eventually, as the Lunarians discovered more and more pockets of their people within the void, slowly beginning work on what would one day be dubbed the Labyrinth, they began to notice that some among them were quieter than normal. Eerily quiet. And they began to notice other differences. Some of them did not have the star-like runes marking their bodies. They were bound to the ground. They were wholly solid. In time it was discovered that these were not Lunarians at all, but some other creature altogether. Living shadows, with unknowable minds and uncertain natures.

This was long, long ago. Since then meres have become simply another part of life in Aphelion, strange beings who mimic the general shape and behavior of Lunarians. Unlike wisps, who appear mindless and thus do not care where they are, meres seem to only be found in the presence of Lunarians. Sticking to the shadows, watching from the fringes of groups, they appear to exhibit a rudimentary intelligence and curiosity. As docile as wisps, thus far there has never been record of any incident involving a mere. In any case, as they exhibit no natural weapons and have never been seen using psynergy, it is difficult to see what threat they could pose.

Meres are capable of surviving in Weyard, and like wisps, they do not seem to eat or reproduce. Unlike wisps, who would be considered an invasive species if they seemed to impact, well, anything, meres never venture beyond Lunarian territory. While they range somewhat farther from society on Weyard, they still stick close to the edges of Lunarian settlements for the most part. Their rudimentary shapeshifting abilities and typical appearance are a popular explanation for the horror stories about face-stealing monsters in the northern forests of Hesperia.

Wraiths

Since the first recorded histories of the Luna Clan up into the present day, wraiths have been a centerpiece of myth and legend. Depicted as ravenous demons and benevolent guardians in equal measure, they appear everywhere from creation myth to modern, embellished tales of exploration and heroism.

Some of the earliest legends surrounding wraiths described them as titanic monsters who feasted upon the stars themselves. It was not until much later that the explanation for this was discovered: wraiths are indeed titanic, so much so that even from a distance, their bulk can blot out entire swathes of stars. Enormous, draconian, and serpentine, wraiths have been estimated to be anywhere between one thousand to three thousand feet in length, with truly fantastical accounts putting them at close to a mile. Their sinuous bodies are armored in oily black scales each bigger than a man. Hundreds of feet thick, with an array of sharp spines, ridges and fins running their length, they have no observable wings or limbs, and their method for moving through the silent void of Luna's plane goes unsolved. Their most distinguishing aspect is their heads: crowned with a fringe of flexible spines, four sets of three pale white eyes running along brows and jaw, and a massive maw filled with rows of curved fangs.

Wraiths are virtually impervious to physical harm, and psynergy seems to affect them not at all. If anything their bodies seem to drink alchemy like a black hole devouring light. Unlike wisps or meres, wraiths are capable of wielding psynergy themselves; it is impossible not to sense the staggering amount of power within their bodies, and a scattering of accounts carefully sifted to account for bias and rationality confirm it.

All this information has been pieced together over the course of the Clan's history, as wraiths are so massive that it is impossible to observe them in their entirety with any level of detail. Sightings are also incredibly rare, to the point that many suspect that wraiths are not a species at all, but that there is only the one, unique beast. To date in the Clan's history, there have been only four direct encounters. Of those, only one ended in violence, instigated by Lunarians who were attempting to hunt the wraith. Of the few survivors who delivered their report to the Citadel, they claimed that the titan killed scores at a time, mere contact with its skin scattering their beings apart like dust in the wind, that it crushed islands of shadowglass in its jaws like one would bite through a ripe peach. In hindsight they even admitted they could not be certain whether it had truly attacked them or if the slaughter had simply been accidental, a god stepping on ants it did not even know was there.

Wraiths shed their body parts piecemeal, like a shark losing its teeth; eyes, fangs, scales, spines, there is no part of a wraith's anatomy that appears exempt from the process. Every new fragment of retrieved shadowglass is combed meticulously for these leavings. Although they take a considerable amount of time to decay, the freshest finds are still the best, as the materials lose a goodly portion of their resistance to psynergy, yet remain workable. Arms and armor crafted from wraith scales, fangs, and spines are incredibly valuable, and are usually only owned by the most esteemed warriors of the Clan.
[+] Materials
Shadowglass

Shadowglass is the most abundant natural resource to be found in Aphelion. Some have even speculated that the supply may be infinite. No one knows how it forms or where it comes from, but it is the substance that Lunarians use to build their cities and homes. Its appearance is that of a black, semi-transparent glass, with flecks of silver-white scattered throughout like tiny stars. Within the plane, shadowglass is a sturdy building material, and seems particularly receptive to entropy psynergy, the means with which Lunarians shape it to form their structures. Outside the plane, shadowglass is exceptionally brittle, making it a poor material for smithing. It is remarkably sharp however, and in some cases can be worked into the edges of bladed weapons or as accents on armor. Shadowglass' true value is in its ability to redirect and focus psynergy depending on how it has been shaped, making it instrumental in many technologies, increasing efficiency and power output. Because of its myriad applications and virtually limitless supply, Luna strictly regulates the amount of shadowglass exported to Weyard and the other Clans in order to retain its value.

Heartshard

Heartshard is the name Lunarians have given the pearly white ore that forms in the core of masses of shadowglass. Infused with a dull glow in the plane and a rich luster without, heartshard is staggeringly dense; an ingot the size of an apple takes considerable effort to hold aloft. Unlike shadowglass, heartshard is exceedingly rare, and all the more valuable for it. It's theorized to be the result of ambient Luna alchemy present in the plane, absorbed by shadowglass and reflected within until it coalesces into a solid substance, since it has never been found anywhere else. Also unlike shadowglass, heartshard is virtually impervious to influence by psynergy; all but the most potent castings have no effect, and those only a little. Due to its scarcity, heartshard does not feature much in Lunarian crafting, though many agree it would be ideal for defensive purposes if enough could be acquired. Sadly, despite centuries of effort, Luna has still been unable to understand and recreate the specific patterns and structures that allow the ore to form. What scarce heartshard one sees in their lifetime is likely in the form of jewelry, a potent indicator of wealth and standing. Even a handful of heartshard is worth a small fortune.

Starsilk

The other main building material used in Aphelion, starsilk is a luminous silver-white thread, resulting from a prolonged and delicate treatment process of the secretions of microorganisms. Although not significantly more resistant to cutting than normal cloth or textiles, starsilk has astounding tensile strength, which factors into its use in Aphelion, as massive bridges and connecting walkways linking the islands of shadowglass upon which the Lunarians live. While not as valuable a commodity as shadowglass, it is nevertheless used in a variety of crafting, from bowstrings to clothing. Cloth woven from starsilk tends to be very breathable, and many weavers will dye these garments outside the plane, where the substance becomes receptive to such treatments, though it loses its luminescence.

Dark Matter

Unstable waste matter produced when Lunarians carve through shadowglass using Entropy. It resembles craggy lumps of black rock, with none of the light flecks found in shadowglass, and is slightly viscous, sometimes leaving a tar-like residue upon physical contact. Luna collects this waste matter and keeps it tethered at the far edges of the Labyrinth, as they would rather keep track of it than run into it later, unawares. Dark matter is not considered a commodity by the Clan, and it has virtually no uses, other than as an improvised and dangerous explosive when taken outside the plane. Dark matter is susceptible to moderate force, whether physical or psynergetic. Although not a widespread tactic, Luna has been known to employ it during sieges or to seed a battlefield with traps, in order to inflict further casualties on enemies trying to retrieve their dead, wounded, and equipment.
[+] Clan Relations
[+] Sol
Luna's relations with their elemental opposite have always been volatile. While not as close to Sol's center of Weyardian power as Venus and Mercury, they have nevertheless experienced their fair share of invasions by Solian queens looking to claim territory and expand their colonies. Wary of their neighbors at the best of times, Luna often finds itself in conflict with Sol that it would rather avoid, but can never seem to. There are many things about Solian culture that Lunarians find themselves fascinated by, but often end up being unnerved when the Solian penchant for enforced division or structure comes into play. They find many of the more permanent applications of Order psynergy particularly disturbing.
[+] Mars
While Mars' thirst for conflict, however honorable, is a source of bafflement and exasperation for Luna, the two Clans have historically enjoyed a largely cordial relationship, particularly in recent decades. Luna's confinement to Hesperia means that the unprovoked conflict Mars can typically instigate with its neighbors is less commonplace between them, and their ideology of minimal bloodshed helps prevent the souring of relations, given the fervor with which Luna defends its own. While not in an official alliance, they mutually benefit each other with trade agreements; Luna typically shares technological advancements in exchange for spices, game, and other produce to give their cuisine variety, and both Clans have raw resources. The looming presence of the Tolbi Empire has been the largest factor in solidifying their lack of hostilities in order to present a united front against the Clanless nation.
[+] Jupiter
Luna's relationship with Jupiter is a complicated one, a result of a mishmash of the intense similarities and differences between their two cultures. Both Clans' activities can see them interfering in the other's business. Lunarians see Jovians as arrogant bullies, while Jovians view Lunarians as naive troublemakers. The main difficulty arises when factions of Jovians end up exacting their particular brand of justice on members of Luna; Luna's mindset means they view it as official action against their Clan, while Jovian principles usually view it as one independent group conflicting with another. Rife with misunderstandings and mistrust, Nadir Rock's proximity to Jupiter Lighthouse does nothing to ease matters. Despite this, many Jovians and Lunarians end up bonding over some of the deep cultural similarities their Clans share, such as their beginnings as wandering bands within their Planes, and their focus on family groups. In addition, the Jovian plane is the most commonly visited plane among Lunarian explorers, though it beats Mercury's only due to proximity. Many a Lunarian has delighted in the more colorful, dynamic freedom Jupiter's sky offers, in contrast with the mysterious beauty of their own home.
[+] Venus
Luna's interactions with Venus tend to be few and far between, as their lands finds themselves on opposite sides of Weyard. This has limited conflict between the two Clans, but it also makes things like direct trade impractical, and their diplomatic ties remain minimal. While not traditionally enemies, the two Clans have fought in the past, with Luna usually aiding another Clan that is being attacked by Venus, though they have had occasion to ally as well. Luna's conflicts with Venus have always been their most brutal; the mutual lack of “ethical” restraint both Clans employ during wartime, coupled with Venus' aggressive tactics and Luna's defensive stance means both sides always come away bloodied. Somewhat surprisingly, there is little bad blood between the Clans, partly because their wars are as rare as their peacetime interactions, and both Clans hold a grudging respect for the other since most of their actions stem from the same place: a desire to strengthen and protect their families.
[+] Mercury
Luna and Mercury have enjoyed friendly relations for most of their history. Although their territories are incredibly distant from each other, most consider it well worth the trip, especially if the goal is to visit the other Clan's home plane. Lunarians enjoy the abundant wildlife found in Mercury's oceans, as well as the exuberance and carefree attitude of Mercury, and many a Mercurian has found a certain romance to the quiet expanse of the Lunarians' home, and their deep bonds of friendship and love. It is very common for romantic couplings to occur between the two Clans, and a mutual passion for art and adventure are just a few of many ways the two cultures relate to each other. Mercury is the only Clan with which Luna has never warred in any official capacity.
[+] Sanctum
Luna has a presence in Sanctum just as all the other Clans, thanks to the existence of the Grand Gate. Their ever-present push for discovery in all walks of life has led to them contributing to the growth of the city, typically through advancements in architecture, and some development of energy technology. Their provision of shadowglass in particular has been a boon for any device or machine that relies on psynergy. While their general culture and ideology means that there are less Lunarians in the Waywardens than any other demographic, those that are members tend to be concentrated in the patrol and research divisions, exploring and charting the ever-shifting Wastes, or helping the Wardens evolve to keep up. However, there are many among the Clan who view the Wardens as simply another foolish and futile effort to hold back the undeniable force of change. There are even some who are said to regard the Wastes as the next great era of Weyard and seek to accelerate the process and impede the Wardens' efforts any way they can, though all signs point towards such Lunarians being fringe fanatics.
[+] Weyard
[+] Environment
Mooncrest Mountains

The Mooncrest Mountains, colloquially called the Halo, is the circular mountain range that insulates Nadir Rock from the rest of Weyard. Thus named for the way Lunarian pioneers first witnessed a moonrise as it climbed into the sky, the Halo has long since been regarded as a gift and blessing from the goddess Luna herself, to protect her children in their home away from home, and many find it difficult to argue. Attributed great spiritual significance, the Halo is home to a collection of astral observatories spread throughout the mountain range. Initially built as shrines and altars to study the alien skies of Weyard, they were long ago outfitted to additionally serve as a vast communications network and early warning system should the Clan ever find itself threatened.

Heart Sea

The massive inland ocean located in the continent of Hesperia is not technically part of Lunarian territory, and is instead neutral ground between the Clan and the Clanless nation of Hesperia. Nevertheless, the two nations each have a significant stake in the Heart Sea, due to its value as a trading channel between each other, and with Weyard at large, particularly Jupiter, Mars, and Contigo. While neither Luna or Hesperia have the resources and manpower to control even half the sea, let alone wrest control and claim a monopoly, both nations devote substantial efforts to maintaining their presence, and unquestioningly work together to deal with pirates and other threats to the safety of their shipping lanes. The Heart Sea is particularly notable for the bright glow that lights its waters at night, due to a combination of bioluminescent life, and a wealth of Lunarian psynergy stones scattered throughout the depths. Treasure hunters are a common sight in the shallower waters, as diving for the stones and other valuables is a popular pastime for many, and a viable occupation for some.

Whisperwood

The swath of forest on the eastern edge of Luna's territory, nestled between the Mooncrest Mountains and [rivercity]. Largely unremarkable, Whisperwood is nevertheless well known, and named, for the way wisps from Luna's Plane tend to congregate in unusually large numbers amongst the shadowed forest. There are a few sinister rumors about living shadows lurking within that kidnap the unwary and steal their faces, likely born from inaccurate knowledge about meres, but they are disregarded by those with common sense. Either way, many young Lunarians consider it a romantic hideaway.
[+] Cities
Nadir Rock/Nightsong

Starfall

Shroudlight

Fourth One
[+] Miscellaneous
[+] Oaths, Phrases, and Expressions
"Void take you" - One of the gravest curses a Lunarian can utter, it is a condemnation to loneliness and idleness, one of the worst fates most of them can imagine.

"Black skies/dark skies" - Rather than an expression of dark portents, this actually signifies acknowledgement of uncertainty and potential change, which is not always a bad thing for Lunarians.

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Clan Wars: ~Gravity: S ~Umbra: S ~Necromancy: C ~Nullify: S ~Death: AA- ~Final Rank: AAA-
[+] Shenanigans
Kraden: ...god you turn me on.
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Sorry Sclater but my heart belongs to Moose. You just don't have his subtlety.
Kraden: And exactly what did you give moose while claiming it was your heart?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Well it was someone else's heart, naturally.
Kraden: Oh okay, then, threesome Necare?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: I'm not bringing the condoms.
Kraden: We'll use Kris as the condom, he's flexible enough for it.

Artemis: Watch your step, boy.
Artemis: HORRIBLE THINGS LURK IN THE SHADOWS
Necare: I know.
Necare: I'm one of them.

Jackal: If you can't complain you're not trying hard enough.

PK: Oh man I still remember that Arty proposed to Els while we were playing the final level of borderlands
Necare: Wait, seriously?
Valcos: thats romantic
Necare: I haven't heard this and something tells me I have to.
PK: Yes
PK: I was like
PK: "I know you're all happy and stuff but we're getting shot at by aliens"

Boydgamesh: It's not me, I have a vagina.

Ras: soon HJ's love for ToK will fade
HJ: what
Ras: ToK is 10 years old
Ras: or nearly
HJ: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Jackal: That was super passive-aggressive bruh
HFS: ...not really
Eric: Jackal thinks it was because he's the king of passive-aggressive
Eric: so he reads everything as passive-aggressive
Jackal: solbowz, pls
Jackal: I don't have time to be passive in my aggression

Terri: chrono I'm confused
Terri: are we having a conversation or are you just saying memes
Terri: I'm never quite sure
[+] Unlimited Necare Works
I am the pawn of my Asians
Waffles are my body and syrup is my blood
I have viewed over a thousand yuri pics
Unknown to pancakes, nor known to yaoi
Have withstood memes to inspire many spoofs
Yet, these hormones will never feel anything
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March 28th, 2015, 8:51 pm #2

Pasted from Sol thread:

I've mentioned this before, but I think it's worth bringing up again. On the note of Sol = Order, gonna copy/paste stuff from Skype here for consideration.
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better example of the sort of thing I was thinking of
a Luna adept hiding in the darkness can make the shadows semi-solid in order to protect themselves from damage
[2/26/2015 1:08:37 AM] Squee: they just can't extend the shadows beyond where they naturally fall
[2/26/2015 1:08:44 AM] Necare: ohhhhhhhh
[2/26/2015 1:08:56 AM] Ras: that seems like a neat idea
[2/26/2015 1:08:59 AM] Necare: that actually just gave me an idea for a different aspect of their powers I have been working on
[2/26/2015 1:09:11 AM] Ras: Luna tank!
[2/26/2015 1:09:13 AM] Ras: Gooooo
[2/26/2015 1:09:14 AM] Necare: The lore explanation would be a bit different but it's the same end result
[2/26/2015 1:09:14 AM] Kyle: you could take a page from Sand
[2/26/2015 1:09:27 AM] Kyle: and have Luna able to meld into/travel along shadows
[2/26/2015 1:09:34 AM] Necare: I actually
[2/26/2015 1:09:42 AM] Necare: really want to avoid the idea of shadow travel
[2/26/2015 1:09:42 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: Hmm. If you don't mind breaking canon a little bit to fix it, a little specialization could help
[2/26/2015 1:09:47 AM] Kyle: but that does run into the issue of "when is a shadow no longer a shadow"
[2/26/2015 1:09:54 AM] Necare: yeah, like
[2/26/2015 1:09:58 AM] Sadique: when it's a hedgehog, etc.
[2/26/2015 1:09:59 AM] Kyle: and is OP as [radio edit] at night
[2/26/2015 1:10:04 AM] Kyle: lel
[2/26/2015 1:10:04 AM] Ras: yeaaaaaaaaaaaah
[2/26/2015 1:10:06 AM] Necare: can a Lunarian just melt into their own shadow they are casting all the time
[2/26/2015 1:10:18 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: For example, removing some of the combo-plattering the original elements have
[2/26/2015 1:10:18 AM] Squee: then they'd no longer be casting it, so I'd say no
[2/26/2015 1:10:19 AM] Kyle: that would make the shadow vanish, so prob not
[2/26/2015 1:10:36 AM] Necare: is that the Adept equivalent of dividing by zero
[2/26/2015 1:10:42 AM] Necare: maybe the Lunarian would just implode
[2/26/2015 1:10:49 AM] Squee: it throws them into limbo for eternity
[2/26/2015 1:10:50 AM] Sadique: Lunarian steps into own shadow
[2/26/2015 1:10:51 AM] Sadique: Paints the floor.
[2/26/2015 1:11:04 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: Because the original elements can basically do anything, except with their own flavor for doing it, by default
[2/26/2015 1:11:06 AM] Sadique: Alternatively
[2/26/2015 1:11:08 AM] Kyle: they fall back into their shadow, which vanishes, and they shoot back up out of it, then fall back again
[2/26/2015 1:11:11 AM] Kyle: it's Portal
[2/26/2015 1:11:23 AM] Sadique: clearly the worst fate
[2/26/2015 1:11:38 AM] Ras: lunarians are literal portal guns
[2/26/2015 1:11:48 AM] Necare: okay
[2/26/2015 1:11:53 AM] Necare: switching gears for a sec
[2/26/2015 1:12:19 AM] Necare: The typical thing would probably be to make Solians all about spirituality and light and the immaterial world, right?
[2/26/2015 1:12:30 AM] Ras: eh
[2/26/2015 1:12:38 AM] Ras: I think they would be more connected to the world
[2/26/2015 1:12:41 AM] Squee: that would be the obvious assumption, yes
[2/26/2015 1:12:43 AM] Necare: so if we work with opposites, Luna would be all about the physical
[2/26/2015 1:12:56 AM] Squee: you could draw on the yin and yang for inspiration there
[2/26/2015 1:12:58 AM] Necare: I'm actually thinking of doing the reverse, and this is where a bit of DD comes into play
[2/26/2015 1:13:02 AM] Sadique: are you leading up to an overly roundabout pickup line necare
[2/26/2015 1:13:05 AM] Necare: no
[2/26/2015 1:13:07 AM] Necare: sorry
[2/26/2015 1:13:11 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: yes, Necare, reverse that idea
[2/26/2015 1:13:14 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: Reason?
[2/26/2015 1:13:15 AM] Squee: That's kind of what I was going for with my interpretation, yeah
[2/26/2015 1:13:21 AM] Graeme Lewis: back dat idea up
[2/26/2015 1:13:23 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: You can feel light in various ways
[2/26/2015 1:13:27 AM] Squee: since in the first games, Sol represents the release of alchemy and Luna represents it being sealed
[2/26/2015 1:13:40 AM] Necare: I'm thinking of having the Solians have a connection to the natural world, the physical, because the golden sun is the merging of the four basic elements, the building blocks of matter, etc.
[2/26/2015 1:13:44 AM] Necare: yeah
[2/26/2015 1:13:51 AM] Ras: hmm
[2/26/2015 1:14:05 AM] Squee: so Sol is associated with chaos, progress, freedom, and violence, while Luna is associated with order, safety, and stagnation
[2/26/2015 1:14:09 AM] Necare: And I'm thinking Luna could also have a connection, but to a non-physical plane, the plane where the eclipse creatures come from
[2/26/2015 1:14:10 AM] Ras: alchemy is a force that can be harnessed though
[2/26/2015 1:14:23 AM] Squee: I like that, yeah
[2/26/2015 1:14:23 AM] Kyle: [Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:14 AM] Squee:

<<< so Sol is associated with chaos, progress, freedom, and violence, while Luna is associated with order, safety, and stagnationthis is good, I like this
[2/26/2015 1:14:33 AM] Sadique: It works, too
[2/26/2015 1:14:36 AM] Ras: didn't they just mutate the monsters?
[2/26/2015 1:14:36 AM] Sadique: Luna has Seccy in it.
[2/26/2015 1:14:36 AM] Kyle: since it also subverts the order=good, chaos=bad thing
[2/26/2015 1:14:41 AM] Kyle: 8D
[2/26/2015 1:15:06 AM] Necare: They'd be more ethereal, more mystic and spiritual, and instead of "lol solid shadows" their main offense could be tapping into this other plane, summoning/understanding these life forms that normally inhabit a non-corporeal state
[2/26/2015 1:15:19 AM] Necare: so not necromancy, broader
[2/26/2015 1:15:34 AM] Sadique: brb committing science to acquire george the cuddly fleshripper
[2/26/2015 1:15:39 AM] Necare: pretty much
[2/26/2015 1:15:40 AM] Sadique: necare, you will help
[2/26/2015 1:15:55 AM] Necare: and their affinity for this plane is where their natural resistance to the elements comes from
[2/26/2015 1:16:16 AM] Necare: so Null isn't its own domain that they can direct and control, it's just an aspect of their, for lack of a better word, biology
[2/26/2015 1:16:25 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: good
[2/26/2015 1:16:29 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: Null was broke as shit
[2/26/2015 1:16:29 AM] Ras: sounds cool
[2/26/2015 1:16:34 AM] Necare: the way handling temperature extremes is for Proxians/Martians
[2/26/2015 1:16:49 AM] Ras: Yeah that works I think
[2/26/2015 1:16:59 AM] Ras: relegating it to a passive thing is a lot better
[2/26/2015 1:17:08 AM] Ras: then lol point and click beat anything
[2/26/2015 1:17:34 AM] Kyle: except for non-adepts
[2/26/2015 1:17:37 AM] Kyle: get rek'd luna
[2/26/2015 1:17:39 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: lol point and click beat anything should not exist outside of extreme power differentials
[2/26/2015 1:17:55 AM] Kyle: "I nullify all your Psynergy!"
"I taser you."
[2/26/2015 1:18:06 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: that's the designer in me speaking I realize but it remains true for any project hoping for relative balance
[2/26/2015 1:18:14 AM] Necare: that would be another good duality to have, Luna being resistant to the elements, but vulnerable to physical things
[2/26/2015 1:18:19 AM] Necare: i.e. what Sol represents
[2/26/2015 1:18:25 AM] Kyle: if you want to do an active nullification
[2/26/2015 1:18:32 AM] Kyle: then it should also nullify the user's Psynergy
[2/26/2015 1:18:41 AM] Chrono Ivan: like in Lost Kingdoms where the Null class was strong on attack and the Mech class was strong on defense
[2/26/2015 1:18:51 AM] Kyle: and probably not be able to be cycled easily
[2/26/2015 1:18:53 AM] Chrono Ivan: but had no elemental avantage
[2/26/2015 1:19:14 AM] Jackal: [radio edit] Lost Kingdoms was literally amazing
[2/26/2015 1:19:30 AM] Necare: how do you mean, HJ
[2/26/2015 1:19:37 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: [Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:18 AM] Jackal:

<<< [radio edit] Lost Kingdoms was literally amazingthis
[2/26/2015 1:19:51 AM] Kyle: have you seen Heroes, Necare
[2/26/2015 1:20:21 AM] Squee: and their affinity for this plane is where their natural resistance to the elements comes from
so Null isn't its own domain that they can direct and control, it's just an aspect of their, for lack of a better word, biologI like this, yeah
[2/26/2015 1:20:31 AM] Kyle: well, kinda irrelevant actually
[2/26/2015 1:21:09 AM] Kyle: but the idea that, if a Luna Adept has some manner of active control over their nullification, that it doesn't just nullify one person's Psynergy, but all Psynergy around them, including their own
[2/26/2015 1:21:32 AM] Kyle: and can't be turned on/off easily, otherwise they could drop the field, launch something, then pick it back up
[2/26/2015 1:22:06 AM] Necare: basically, the idea that they can't direct it, only amplify its power
[2/26/2015 1:22:14 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: oooooor, better idea
[2/26/2015 1:22:18 AM] Necare: so it affects everyone and makes them rely on other skills?
[2/26/2015 1:22:40 AM] Ras: well that could be fairly annoying/strategic
[2/26/2015 1:22:49 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: Take it like Merchant from Bravely Default - they can amplify or reduce the effects of what happens around them for psynergetic things but not outright remove them
[2/26/2015 1:22:52 AM] Kyle: basically, they turn their natural resistance up all the way and project a field of anti-Psynergy
[2/26/2015 1:22:53 AM] Ras: Turn off psynergy!
[2/26/2015 1:23:16 AM] Necare: I could toy with that
[2/26/2015 1:23:18 AM] Squee: I also liked the idea of them being vulnerable to the physical but resistant to elements
[2/26/2015 1:23:25 AM] Necare: but yeah as far as like, an actual force they can manipulate
[2/26/2015 1:23:26 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: Instead of nullifying because nullifying is a strong-ass word
[2/26/2015 1:23:27 AM] Squee: with Sol being the inverse
[2/26/2015 1:23:30 AM] Necare: that's not what null will be
[2/26/2015 1:23:33 AM] Kyle: Passive: slightly enhanced elemental defense
Active: complete nullification of all Psynergy, friend, foe, and self
[2/26/2015 1:23:46 AM] Squee: "damping" might be a better word
[2/26/2015 1:23:49 AM] Necare: that makes sense, Squee
[2/26/2015 1:23:51 AM] Squee: or inhibiting
[2/26/2015 1:23:53 AM] Kyle: alternatively
[2/26/2015 1:23:58 AM] Kyle: if Vae is in the project
[2/26/2015 1:24:12 AM] Kyle: he could be someone who's null passive went [radio edit]ing crazy
[2/26/2015 1:24:14 AM] Necare: since Sol is a mix of all the elements, you could "overload" solians because they have a natural affinity for all the elements
[2/26/2015 1:28:26 AM] HFS - Ai Yo: [Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:25 AM] HFS - Swampy Shirthole:

<<< Easy access to immediate and unavoidable shutdown of an entire force of the universe shouldn't be widely present
to expand on this, essentially what I'm saying is that amplifying one's natural resistance and turning it outward should make it difficult to cast psynergy or do effective things with it but not impossible from both a logical standpoint (how can one turn off a psynergetic effect if they cannot cast psynergy) and a balance standpoint (all Lunarians having access to Curse of Rampage means they just need to learn this effect and get some strong weapons and they win, forever)
TL;DR, by looking at the symbolism present in TBS and TLA, showing Sol as the release of the Alchemy (leading to growth and progress but also disorder and strife) and Luna as Alchemy sealed (leading to stability but also stagnation), I think it actually makes more sense to align Sol with Chaos and Luna with Order.

I feel this also ties in well with the proposed animal motifs of Sol and Luna, with winged insects like mayflies typically being associated with the ephemeral, the impermanent, and a lack of restraints (or in the case of butterflies, change), and ants being the go-to example of extremely communal insects that operate far more effectively in groups and hold to a rigid social structure.

Just my two cents, obviously it's your call.
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March 28th, 2015, 10:45 pm #3

That's a direction I can get behind. One of the ideas I've had for Luna's culture in this RP, continuing my intention to break away from our past incarnations as a collection of barely-sustained chaos, is to place an emphasis on friends, family, and unity.

Due in part to the way Luna has been the outcasts and persecuted in a lot of Temple RPs, I think it's fitting for them to value loyalty and protectiveness in their new world. A logical progression would be family/friends > community > Clan, although you could also put the individual before any of those groups, to retain a touch of that old arrogance and selfishness. This is similar to Venus' more traditional, typical heroic values of loyalty, but perhaps more subconsciously structured. Basically I want to convey the idea that on the whole Luna Clan looks after its own, values loyalty and bonds of friendship, and looks harshly on things like treason or any type of betrayal. This extends to other Clans; they respect those who share their values, and are distrustful of those who don't.

Another aspect of their culture I'd like to develop is their mythology. I want this version of Luna to be kind of ethereal and mystical, not just physically, but in their art and beliefs. I'm imagining this manifesting as them placing emphasis on storytelling and myths, preserving as much history as they can. This would tie in to wanting to protect their legacy in case they're ever threatened again, as well as wanting to be as close as possible to, or understand, the gods, Luna especially. This could be part of their thematic ties to preservation and stability, without necessarily stagnating, because...

While I think the idea of order and structure fits in well in certain ways, like the current animal motif we have, I'm having difficulty reconciling it with the idea of Luna as an agent of change and chaos. That was how I played things in D&R's conclusion; Luna got directly involved, hiding the actions of the usurpers from the other gods, siding with them in the final fight, and turning Necare into what may have been the first Luna Elemental, appointing him to guide the new Clan and be an agent of chaos and change to ensure things never got this bad again.

I suppose a few ways of dealing with that would be saying that, because Sunnruner became the new Luna, the old Luna's ideals and intentions wouldn't necessarily carry over, especially since Sunruner went into the fight with the main motivation of protecting her people. Also, I envision Necare as going back to Weyard (or Luna's Plane, rather, once the remaking was done) to guide the new Clan, and his mission to ensure Luna changed and grew beyond what they were may have resulted in a faction or belief system that is at odds with the rest of the Clan.


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March 28th, 2015, 11:43 pm #4

I like the idea of having them focus on history and memory, yeah. It works with their theme of wanting to get past their former dark reputation, even if nobody still around even consciously remembers it.

As far as the community focus, maybe for the Lunarians, there simply is no hierarchy. Since they believe in the interconnectedness of their bretheren, to help the clan is to help the individual, and vice versa.
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March 29th, 2015, 12:45 am #5

I'm still all for the sleeper agents thing. *Waits for "LUNA KIDNAPS CHILDREN!" cry*
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March 29th, 2015, 12:58 am #6

Necare aside, Seccy, how exactly are you going to kidnap children when only Lunarians live on their plane? >_>
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March 29th, 2015, 1:08 am #7

Simple. They keep the children in a totally conspicuous warehouse, where they do... things to them.

Of course, a hero's bound to see through that.
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March 29th, 2015, 1:10 am #8

I don't think that'd work.

I mean, if your character wants to do that personally, okay... but since Necare has last say on general Clan things, I think that's up to him there.
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March 29th, 2015, 4:07 am #9

Ok, I like your ideas necare.

But what if, instead, exactly the opposite of that and Luna are a bunch of rapacious murderous assassins, traitorous spies, infiltratory poisoners, and sadistic torturers who abduct clanless children and indoctrinate them into their religion of nihilistic hate following their dark god whose worship mandates the murder of those weaker than you? They live in a world of perpetual darkness upon a land of twisted, sharpened black glass, shrouded in the screaming of their innocent victims.

OH! and they abduct clanless adults for food.


Anyways what is your element's guiding philosophy?
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March 29th, 2015, 10:46 am #10

SolSeccy wrote:I'm still all for the sleeper agents thing. *Waits for "LUNA KIDNAPS CHILDREN!" cry*
Come at me with this again and I'm shunting you back into Sol.

Working on it, Chrono! I think we've got a good bare bones idea going, will fill everyone in when I have the free time.


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Kraden: And exactly what did you give moose while claiming it was your heart?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Well it was someone else's heart, naturally.
Kraden: Oh okay, then, threesome Necare?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: I'm not bringing the condoms.
Kraden: We'll use Kris as the condom, he's flexible enough for it.

Artemis: Watch your step, boy.
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Necare: I know.
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PK: Oh man I still remember that Arty proposed to Els while we were playing the final level of borderlands
Necare: Wait, seriously?
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Necare: I haven't heard this and something tells me I have to.
PK: Yes
PK: I was like
PK: "I know you're all happy and stuff but we're getting shot at by aliens"

Boydgamesh: It's not me, I have a vagina.

Ras: soon HJ's love for ToK will fade
HJ: what
Ras: ToK is 10 years old
Ras: or nearly
HJ: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Jackal: That was super passive-aggressive bruh
HFS: ...not really
Eric: Jackal thinks it was because he's the king of passive-aggressive
Eric: so he reads everything as passive-aggressive
Jackal: solbowz, pls
Jackal: I don't have time to be passive in my aggression

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March 29th, 2015, 8:04 pm #11

Saturos wrote:Necare aside, Seccy, how exactly are you going to kidnap children when only Lunarians live on their plane? >_>
Hmm...Some sort of teleporting through shadows synergy? Akin to what the Shadowkhan use in JCA.
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March 29th, 2015, 10:44 pm #12

No, denied.

If you start that kind of OP power level creep you're going to have D&R all over again.
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March 30th, 2015, 4:23 pm #13

Alright, so Ras, Insul and I have done some worldbuilding in an impromptu chat. Hold onto your butts, and help us explore this.

I am making a bit of an effort for Sol and Luna to contrast each other in most areas, so if Sol is chaos disguised as order, it would follow that Luna would be order disguised as chaos. I'm not sure if that's the case with what we have so far, but here we go.

Philosophy and Main Theme

So, to reconcile the idea that Luna values memory and history without stagnation, with the fact that I was pushing for them to become agents of chaos in D&R's conclusion, what we're thinking right now is that on the whole, Lunarians will embody both of those concepts. Two sides of the same coin. They value change, growth, and discovery, but those things only have value if you can remember what things were like before. Thus, both history and the future have their place.

An aspect of this is darkness. Rather than viewing it as edgelord-y and dangerous, Lunarians enjoy the darkness because to them, darkness represents change and chaos. It is the potential for new things and new discoveries. The goal is to have them value chaos and change, but not as a force of destruction, as a force that can be directed and harnessed to constantly improve. Chaos is the source of life.

Another aspect of this would be an acceptance or focus on transience. If Sol is focused on the present, the immediate concerns of this world, then Lunarians are at peace with the knowledge that all things must end, including their own lives. This isn't building up to making them deathseekers or anything, but it is another facet of their acceptance and desire for change. It doesn't mean they don't mourn death, but emotionally, they probably deal with it better, or move on from it quicker, than most. Not sure whether this would be a point for or against them having any type of religion or belief in an afterlife, because if they believe something else waits beyond, maybe that would take away from the value of this mindset.

Luna's Plane

We've also developed the appearance of the place a bit! So, the endless black void filled with stars is going to be a mainstay. Also, I feel this is important to emphasize, we have no moon. In part because I want to avoid having a big, singular light source, and it could lead to some fun worldbuilding regarding religion. Where is our Goddess, etc.

Ras and I were talking, because if our "sky" is basically space, what kind of terrain would we actually have? Just floating around in the void would be boring. So we discussed my rudimentary idea about the black glass stuff with weird spatial properties, and at work yesterday I had an idea. It came from the idea of some Lunarians being based off spiders. So we came up with starsilk. Basically, picture spider silk; super strong, super flexible, only this stuff is infused with a starry luminescence. Lunarians wouldn't make it ourselves; none of our powers would allow for the creation of matter, and we wouldn't be biologically capable of it. I'm thinking it would be one of our very few natural resources, perhaps produced by some kind of microorganism, and that it's a skill that has to be cultivated, harvesting it, refining, weaving, etc. Due to its properties, it would be a primary building material, possibly with entire cities being made out of it.

Having come up with this, I am now less reluctant to include the idea of subterranean cities (since I feel like Lunarian views would have a lot of them enjoying spending time under the open sky instead of nestled underground) that would be carved and hollowed out on the inside of these big masses of black glass. I'm thinking our entropic psynergy would be a good explanation for our skill in shaping these internal dwellings, especially since we're strongest in our home plane, where such massive feats would be more plausible.

Without stealing too much from Jupiter, I think rather than a single large landmass, we would have tons of this black glass substance, of all shapes and sizes, from the truly massive to the rather small, floating in this void. But rather than Luna existing in hundreds of smaller communities that simply drift through the void, we use starsilk to connect all of our cities and settlements, adding each newly settled chunk to our vast web. Connecting with our theme of transience and change, our world would be constantly shifting; because of starsilk's flexibility, we can actually rearrange the layout of our civilization. Move this city over there, separate this section and reconnect it there, reel in this town for a few days, etc. Naturally this would require an impressive amount of coordination and teamwork, emphasizing again our community ties and bonds of family and friendship.

Thus we could conceivably be order disguised as chaos. To an outsider Luna's plane would appear haphazard and ready to collapse at a moment's notice, but behind every movement and adjustment would be careful planning and sound reason. Benefit the individual and you benefit the whole; endanger the whole and you endanger the individual.

Culture/Skills

Tying in to our philosophy and the setup of our plane, I feel like a lot of Lunarians would be explorers and architects. Instead of fearing the unknown, they embrace it, and this wouldn't be restricted to our plane alone. I imagine many Lunarians would be eager to visit Weyard and the other planes. The specialization in architecture would of course be a result of the physicality of our plane (I'm thinking a lot of our cities would be full of geometric shapes or layouts, something that again speaks of the importance of order) and they might make use of their skills for other Clans and the Clanless.

I don't know if Lunarians would have a lot of art, but one idea I had was for slow-degrading sculptures. Another counterpart to Solian art; theirs is blink-and-you'll-miss-it beauty, but ours would require patient attention to notice. Sculptors would employ delayed entropic psynergy and imbue it into a pattern into, say, a hunk of black glass. Over time, (days, months, maybe years) pieces and sections of the rock would erode until finally, the intended sculpture is created. But it wouldn't stop there; it would keep eroding until it had decayed fully. Look too soon, and you don't see the purpose. Look too late, and you never will. Each piece would be unique and transient.

Government

Still scarce on this one, but I'm favoring the idea of noble houses of some sort. All of them equal, but with a traditional history of something that the Clan considers valuable and as embodying their philosophies. A noble house of storytellers (and writers! Creating new tales is as important as preserving old ones), a noble house of architects, a house of explorers, etc. The Leader would be elected from one of these houses. I'm not sure what the criteria would be. Maybe something similar to the dwarves in Dragon Age; a Lunarian who makes a significant step in their field, that could be applied to better life for Lunarian society as whole, would increase standing in their house and increase their likelihood for being submitted as a Leader candidate.

Tidbits

This is the work of Ras and Insul as well, not just me. Also, most of this is of course, subject to change, and feedback and criticism is welcome. I haven't delved into things like sports or military just yet.

Lunarians view themselves as agents of change and chaos. This fuels their love of exploration and interacting with other cultures, but you can also extrapolate this in other ways if it fits with your Clan or character. Some might view them as meddlers, for example, or as having dangerous ideas.

Additionally, I feel like if this ends up being their overarching worldview, that the Waywardens would have less Lunarian members than others (relatively) because they stand for preservation and neutrality. Conversely, a large amount of Lunarians might be part of the Void Commune.

There might even be a fanatic splinter group that views the Zone and its expansion as a good thing, the next big change for Weyard. And, on the whole, Luna might be the least concerned about it (at the beginning at least) and a lot of the people who venture into it, whether they return or not, are probably Lunarian.


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March 31st, 2015, 1:08 am #14

That looks really awesome! I love the idea of the Lunarian architecture and city structure, it's a brilliant and beautiful vision. ^^
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March 31st, 2015, 1:34 am #15

The architecture/starsilk is a really good bit of lore, yeah. I also quite like the part about Lunarian art. I brought up the Vajrayana Buddhist mandalas earlier, how the idea with them is that you put effort into completing this beautiful work of art and then destroy it, and the philosophy seems very similar here.
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March 31st, 2015, 4:48 am #16

wrote:We've also developed the appearance of the place a bit! So, the endless black void filled with stars is going to be a mainstay. Also, I feel this is important to emphasize, we have no moon. In part because I want to avoid having a big, singular light source, and it could lead to some fun worldbuilding regarding religion. Where is our Goddess, etc.
I find it strange you're going for this, actually. Luna - the moon - is not the absence of light entirely, but the presence of light amidst darkness. I would have imagined luna to be the exact opposite, with its religion and way of life based almost entirely around the cycles of the moon, with new and full moons being special occasions that should be observed by the religion. Perhaps with huge shrines to meticulously measure the moon's phases, similar to a number of real world ancient civilizations. It just seems odd for your namesake to not even be a part of your world.
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[6:00:18 PM] Necare: raw check your spelling
[6:00:22 PM] Necare: ?WOW
[6:00:24 PM] Necare: [radio edit]ING
[6:00:27 PM] Necare: WOW

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[10:32:46 PM] HJ: absolutely

[2:58:15 AM] The Law: he ran away a couple of times but he always came back :((
[2:58:22 AM] The Law: im worried
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[2:59:00 AM] Schrodinger's Leaf: inb4 he comes back for christmas
[2:59:21 AM] Necare: it's a [radio edit]ing Christmas miracle
[2:59:37 AM] The Law: that's my request to santa
[2:59:44 AM] The Law: pls bring amiti back

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"like a shoot me up"
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[7:44:31 PM] HFS: it's survival of the flattest

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March 31st, 2015, 9:30 am #17

It does, doesn't it! That's how it is for now though. Maybe it will change. Perhaps the lack of a moon in our own plane is yet another reason Lunarians find for traveling abroad to study the moon in Weyard. Or the other planes, if they have them.

Tired right now, but I've come up with some more stuff, mainly relating to our military and the shadowglass, so I'll post that later. The feedback is appreciated; I'm particularly proud of the starsilk (Ras helped with that) so thanks!


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Clan Wars: ~Gravity: S ~Umbra: S ~Necromancy: C ~Nullify: S ~Death: AA- ~Final Rank: AAA-
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Kraden: ...god you turn me on.
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Sorry Sclater but my heart belongs to Moose. You just don't have his subtlety.
Kraden: And exactly what did you give moose while claiming it was your heart?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Well it was someone else's heart, naturally.
Kraden: Oh okay, then, threesome Necare?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: I'm not bringing the condoms.
Kraden: We'll use Kris as the condom, he's flexible enough for it.

Artemis: Watch your step, boy.
Artemis: HORRIBLE THINGS LURK IN THE SHADOWS
Necare: I know.
Necare: I'm one of them.

Jackal: If you can't complain you're not trying hard enough.

PK: Oh man I still remember that Arty proposed to Els while we were playing the final level of borderlands
Necare: Wait, seriously?
Valcos: thats romantic
Necare: I haven't heard this and something tells me I have to.
PK: Yes
PK: I was like
PK: "I know you're all happy and stuff but we're getting shot at by aliens"

Boydgamesh: It's not me, I have a vagina.

Ras: soon HJ's love for ToK will fade
HJ: what
Ras: ToK is 10 years old
Ras: or nearly
HJ: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Jackal: That was super passive-aggressive bruh
HFS: ...not really
Eric: Jackal thinks it was because he's the king of passive-aggressive
Eric: so he reads everything as passive-aggressive
Jackal: solbowz, pls
Jackal: I don't have time to be passive in my aggression

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Terri: are we having a conversation or are you just saying memes
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Have withstood memes to inspire many spoofs
Yet, these hormones will never feel anything
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March 31st, 2015, 10:09 am #18

Considering the name of Luna, I'm not sold on the lack of a moon thing. If you're so dead-set on no moon, maybe work it into the background that there used to be a moon?

Anyway, my first thought on 'no moon' was that we had a Death Star instead was some sort of Aurora type thing. Less of a singular light source, and closer to something that provided equal-ish light everywhere...Kind of like a light...haze?

Liking the noble houses bit, reminds me of all of the stuff in Gehenna.

One thing I thought of when you mentioned the 'black glass substance' was to maybe have a Noble House that specialised in (plus retainers) crafting physical matter out of Shadows. This could either be commonplace (so all of the buildings etc. were made with it) or more rare (so nobles and wotnot got mansions made out of this 'physical shadow matter' and important locations).
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March 31st, 2015, 11:29 pm #19

I'm certainly open to ideas anyone has for the "origin" of the plane and an explanation for the lack of a moon. Leaf's idea of shrines or observatory posts making a big deal out of monitoring the phases is pretty cool.

Auroras are a little too colorful for what I have in mind, Seccy, and a haze feels too...oppressive. I feel like having stars spread out everywhere through the sky already fulfills the idea of light being present throughout the plane, as well as our starsilk structures.

I'm not totally opposed to the idea of solid shadows, but if we did end up doing that, it would be restricted to our plane only, I think. And I'd hesitate to commit even to that without feedback from other people.

Before my next big worldbuilding update, I'd like some feedback on a few things. Ras and I have tossed around a few ideas regarding the nature of Luna's plane; things like having no atmosphere, wonky gravity, and whether our stars are fixed or not. I welcome questions or your own thoughts on this, since they aren't set in stone. The question of our stars is of particular interest, because it has occured to me that in a dark abyss with no moon or sun, that if our stars are fixed, Lunarians might not have a way to monitor the passage of time.

I don't want to get carried away with all my thoughts for this and end up turning Lunarians into people whose lifestyle is so alien that they can't cope anywhere else, or make our plane so inhospitable that it requires super convoluted explanations for how and why other people would visit. So criticize or shoot down these ideas as it please you.


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Clan Wars: ~Gravity: S ~Umbra: S ~Necromancy: C ~Nullify: S ~Death: AA- ~Final Rank: AAA-
[+] Shenanigans
Kraden: ...god you turn me on.
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Sorry Sclater but my heart belongs to Moose. You just don't have his subtlety.
Kraden: And exactly what did you give moose while claiming it was your heart?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: Well it was someone else's heart, naturally.
Kraden: Oh okay, then, threesome Necare?
Mysterious Waffle Waif: I'm not bringing the condoms.
Kraden: We'll use Kris as the condom, he's flexible enough for it.

Artemis: Watch your step, boy.
Artemis: HORRIBLE THINGS LURK IN THE SHADOWS
Necare: I know.
Necare: I'm one of them.

Jackal: If you can't complain you're not trying hard enough.

PK: Oh man I still remember that Arty proposed to Els while we were playing the final level of borderlands
Necare: Wait, seriously?
Valcos: thats romantic
Necare: I haven't heard this and something tells me I have to.
PK: Yes
PK: I was like
PK: "I know you're all happy and stuff but we're getting shot at by aliens"

Boydgamesh: It's not me, I have a vagina.

Ras: soon HJ's love for ToK will fade
HJ: what
Ras: ToK is 10 years old
Ras: or nearly
HJ: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Jackal: That was super passive-aggressive bruh
HFS: ...not really
Eric: Jackal thinks it was because he's the king of passive-aggressive
Eric: so he reads everything as passive-aggressive
Jackal: solbowz, pls
Jackal: I don't have time to be passive in my aggression

Terri: chrono I'm confused
Terri: are we having a conversation or are you just saying memes
Terri: I'm never quite sure
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I am the pawn of my Asians
Waffles are my body and syrup is my blood
I have viewed over a thousand yuri pics
Unknown to pancakes, nor known to yaoi
Have withstood memes to inspire many spoofs
Yet, these hormones will never feel anything
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HyrulianJedi
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Joined: November 2nd, 2006, 5:10 am

April 1st, 2015, 4:47 am #20

Having no atmosphere basically does prevent anyone from entering the plane, except for maybe Jupiter Adepts. No gravity, however, would be interesting, particularly with your thoughts of disorientation and movement of things.
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