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March 12th, 2018, 6:34 pm #21

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Jolly wrote:Ok, so he doesn't know anything about business.

Then explain how he turned a $1M loan from his father into 3.5 billion dollars.
He received a $1M loan from his father.
Absolutely.

Now, explain how a business dunce turns $1M, even with connections, into $3.5B.
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March 12th, 2018, 7:16 pm #22

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March 12th, 2018, 7:31 pm #23

Jolly wrote:
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Jolly wrote:Your argument borders on the delusional.
All you've presented to support your claim that Trump is a great businessman is some empty plea to common sense. Please, let's talk about how awesome he is at budgeting.
Ok, so he doesn't know anything about business.

Then explain how he turned a $1M loan from his father into 3.5 billion dollars.
That actually is the big mystery of Trump. In business as well as well as politics. Why on earth has he been successful? Phrased differently, why on earth has anyone fallen for his shtick?


I would go as far as to say, why is he not homeless, with the exact same haircut, begging for change?
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March 12th, 2018, 7:53 pm #24

Jon, that's rather an odd thing to say about anyone, as it could be said about anyone, including you and me I guess:
wrote:I would go as far as to say, why is he not homeless, with the exact same haircut, begging for change?
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March 12th, 2018, 8:03 pm #25

I was obviously exaggerating for effect, and possibly humor.


But I'm quite serious, for decades he has seemed like such a caricature of a self-promoting con man, I never understood why people took him seriously. And I mean bankers, vendors, spouses, etc. Not just the public.
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March 12th, 2018, 8:25 pm #26

jon-nyc wrote:I was obviously exaggerating for effect, and possibly humor.


But I'm quite serious, for decades he has seemed like such a caricature of a self-promoting con man, I never understood why people took him seriously. And I mean bankers, vendors, spouses, etc. Not just the public.
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March 12th, 2018, 8:37 pm #27

jon-nyc wrote:I was obviously exaggerating for effect, and possibly humor.


But I'm quite serious, for decades he has seemed like such a caricature of a self-promoting con man, I never understood why people took him seriously. And I mean bankers, vendors, spouses, etc. Not just the public.
Don't let TDS get in the way of critical analysis.

He's managed to be successful. Maybe it's by selling moonbeams. Or convincing other people to invest. Or maybe he has great connections. Maybe he's had some good business ideas. Maybe it's because he hired the right people.

I don't know.

Regardless, the fact remains he has made money, and apparently better than the average bear has done. Much better. So, ipso de facto, he cannot be bad at business.

To deny that fact is ludicrous.
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March 12th, 2018, 8:40 pm #28

I don’t deny it, I just find it mysterious. Really, genuinely mysterious.
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March 12th, 2018, 8:45 pm #29

Money isn't everything.
(everyone write that down).

Does he play piano, does he read great literature i.e., does he comprehend the Arts and Humanities other than perhaps throwing money in that direction once in a while?

Beats me.


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March 12th, 2018, 9:15 pm #30

jon-nyc wrote:I don’t deny it, I just find it mysterious. Really, genuinely mysterious.
I don't think you did. I was referring back to another gentleman.
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March 12th, 2018, 9:31 pm #31

jon-nyc wrote:I don’t deny it, I just find it mysterious. Really, genuinely mysterious.
Populism is not confined to the US. Maybe that helps. Also many super wealthy folks are not Wall Street types. A longing for US exceptionalism vs apologism. A desire to slow down cultural change in this country. The lack of appeal of Hillary. I could go on with guesses.
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March 12th, 2018, 9:55 pm #32

Watching you Trump haters attempt to portray him as an unsuccessful clod and expressing your surprise at how he managed to do "mysteriously" make money and friends has me laughing my ass off. Mostly because it says more about you than it does Trump.

Aqua lists off a short list of businesses he was connected to that failed, as if that means something. Doing that shows such a profound lack of knowledge about how business works, how you make money, that I don't even know where to begin. It's sad, really. Jon thinks it's "mysterious" how he gets people to "take him serious".

Jon.... up until a year and a half ago your tribe thought he was one of you. Which brings us to the topic of the ideological bankruptcy of liberalism.

I wonder sometimes how some of you even manage to tie your own shoelaces.
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March 12th, 2018, 10:04 pm #33

I feel that I should point out that I don't manage to tie my own shoelaces.
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March 12th, 2018, 10:16 pm #34

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March 12th, 2018, 10:18 pm #35

Ok, so instead of shoelaces I'll change it to wondering how some of you manage to find your ass to wipe it....
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March 12th, 2018, 10:20 pm #36

I don't wipe my ass either. I literally believe in a nanny state which provides that service to me.
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March 12th, 2018, 10:24 pm #37

The problem with that is the state assumes all asses are the same so they wipe them all the same way. Then of course there's the issue of having to pay 500 bucks for a roll of toilet paper, only to stand there with a dirty ass until someone from the state shows up to smear it down your leg......
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March 12th, 2018, 10:27 pm #38

That’s the part I like best.
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March 12th, 2018, 10:28 pm #39

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's toilet paper.
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March 12th, 2018, 10:34 pm #40

Klaus wrote:The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's toilet paper.
-- Margaret Thatcher.
Yes, but you never run out of other people’s asses.


So there’s that.
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