STUDY: Bees count better than They Said they Did

Klaus
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June 12th, 2018, 11:47 am #1

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/07/61786346 ... on-of-zero

The full "Nature" paper is here (maybe pay-walled at your place):
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/3 ... /1124.full

Fascinating!
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June 12th, 2018, 11:53 am #2

Thanks for finding that (and yeah, it's behind a paywall) story at NPR. It's a better explanation of what they found, and how, than the story I saw earlier:

https://interestingengineering.com/hone ... inds-study
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June 12th, 2018, 12:04 pm #3

Interesting. The more we research, the less we appear so very unique among the other animals.
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June 12th, 2018, 12:05 pm #4

One thing I wondered about the study:

How do they know that the bees actually count? It could be, for instance, that they merely react on the amount of light reflected by the card, i.e., they fly to the brightest card (assuming that the background is white). Then they wouldn't need to grasp anything about numbers, including zero.
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June 12th, 2018, 12:10 pm #5

Mikhailoh wrote:Interesting. The more we research, the less we appear so very unique among the other animals.
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June 12th, 2018, 5:59 pm #6

Thanks for that Klaus and George.

Really interesting.
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June 12th, 2018, 8:02 pm #7

Klaus wrote:One thing I wondered about the study:

How do they know that the bees actually count? It could be, for instance, that they merely react on the amount of light reflected by the card, i.e., they fly to the brightest card (assuming that the background is white). Then they wouldn't need to grasp anything about numbers, including zero.
Interesting study and interesting thought. Perhaps they kept the reflective area constant? Can’t access the paper from here. Guess they could still be focusing on the size of the dark area in that case.
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