I'm reading the Woodward book. Here's an anecdote from the early days.
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, who was a commander in the Naval Reserves, tried several times to persuade Mattis (James, SECDEF) to appear on Sunday talk shows on behalf of the administration. The answer was always no.
"Sean," Mattis finally said, "I've killed people for a living. If you call me again, I'm going to fucking send you to Afghanistan. Are we clear?"
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