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January 12th, 2018, 10:37 pm #21

I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense. Prohibition is bad policy....
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January 12th, 2018, 10:42 pm #22

ivorythumper wrote:I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense.
OK - I'm ignorant here. What's the difference.

If something is illegal, is it not also criminal?
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January 13th, 2018, 12:29 am #23

ivorythumper wrote:I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense. Prohibition is bad policy....
Decriminalization still leaves production unregulated and wouldn’t solve the overdose problem we’re talking about here.
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January 13th, 2018, 12:30 am #24

George K wrote:
ivorythumper wrote:I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense.
OK - I'm ignorant here. What's the difference.

If something is illegal, is it not also criminal?
Well it’s illegal to forget to put more change in the parking meter, but I’d hardly call it criminal.
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January 13th, 2018, 12:45 am #25

Riley wrote:
George K wrote:
ivorythumper wrote:I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense.
OK - I'm ignorant here. What's the difference.

If something is illegal, is it not also criminal?
Well it’s illegal to forget to put more change in the parking meter, but I’d hardly call it criminal.
Isn't this why words have definitions?


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January 13th, 2018, 12:56 am #26

Copper wrote:
Riley wrote:
George K wrote:
ivorythumper wrote:I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense.
OK - I'm ignorant here. What's the difference.

If something is illegal, is it not also criminal?
Well it’s illegal to forget to put more change in the parking meter, but I’d hardly call it criminal.
Isn't this why words have definitions?

Yes, and it’s why illegal and criminal are two different words.
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January 13th, 2018, 12:59 am #27

Riley wrote:Yes, and it’s why illegal and criminal are two different words.
They are different words, of course. One has 7 letters, and the other has 8.

But, in terms of meaning, how are they different?
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January 13th, 2018, 1:22 am #28

Riley wrote:
Copper wrote:
Riley wrote:
George K wrote:
ivorythumper wrote:I think that decriminalization makes sense... legalization not so much sense.
OK - I'm ignorant here. What's the difference.

If something is illegal, is it not also criminal?
Well it’s illegal to forget to put more change in the parking meter, but I’d hardly call it criminal.
Isn't this why words have definitions?

Yes, and it’s why illegal and criminal are two different words.
The problem is that criminal is two different words.

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January 13th, 2018, 1:22 am #29

George K wrote:
Riley wrote:Yes, and it’s why illegal and criminal are two different words.
They are different words, of course. One has 7 letters, and the other has 8.

But, in terms of meaning, how are they different?
Lots of things are illegal but not criminal. Local bylaws particularly. I can legally only put out one bag of garbage a week. Am I a criminal if I put out two?
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