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ZO GIA TON EROTA/THE JOY OF FOOLING AROUND

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February 20th, 2007, 6:58 am #1

Hi Miltos, and to all lovers of Classic Greek Sexploitation!

Zo Gia Ton Erota is another classic Omiros Efstratiadis flick from circa, 76'. It stars the sexy Magda Makri, whom is one of my favorite sexploitation actresses of that era.

This movie, Zo Gia, was released as a softcore flick, but like so many of these movies of that time it is suspect to having actual hardcore. Which brings me to my next point:

The Joy of Fooling Around is the English Dubbed version of this film, with a limited release by CalVista in 1978, I think. Apparently, this is the only known hardcore version of this film, but by some reports found on the internet, it is uncertain that the hardcore scenes are inserts or performed by the actors. Most reports suggest that they are real.

My question is: Does anyone have a copy of this film? (THE JOY OF FOOLING AROUND, that is) I've been trying to get a copy, but no such luck as of yet.

Miltos, I'm not sure if you have this version. Either way, I'd be interested on hearing your opinion about it.

Also, I see that Venus Video has a hardcore version of Erotiki Teleti/The Ceremony that goes under the title She was a Virgin. It seems that this version has additional footage to the one I traded with you last year. In fact, it seems that this may be a fuller version, as the Dutch Arpa version i traded with you was slightly disjointed and cut short near the end. Do you know anything about this version? Let me know, either way.

Hope all is well.

Stratagakis (marcus)
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February 20th, 2007, 3:43 pm #2

EROTIKI TELETI has a stronger/hard version with real scenes called ITAN KAPOTE PARTHENES (="They were virgins once")
This is the version that Venus video sells as SHE WAS A VIRGIN (in Greek language). But the additional scenes aren't with Maria Konsta...
I have it for trade if you like.

As for ZO GIA TON EROTA I'm sorry but I haven't the hardcore version you mention (THE JOY OF FOOLING AROUND) so I can't tell. I wish I had. It has not a Greek release this way, that's for sure. This is one of my wants actually !!

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February 20th, 2007, 4:42 pm #3

cinehound wrote: As for ZO GIA TON EROTA I'm sorry but I haven't the hardcore version you mention (THE JOY OF FOOLING AROUND) so I can't tell. I wish I had. It has not a Greek release this way, that's for sure. This is one of my wants actually !!
I have a pressbook of ZO GIA TON EROTA which was used for foreign sales and the title on it is RIVALS IN LOVE. Perhaps the director shot the hardcore closeups using body doubles. I'd be curious to watch the hardcore version.
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February 21st, 2007, 10:10 am #4

at some point last year i tried trading this film with Antonio (A.L.T) of BCULT but he was very busy and hasn't been available since. i don't know if any of you are in contact with him (that's if you know who he is) but i know he has this film. i've tried locating it at other places/sites/collectors, and it just doesn't seem to show up. tis a pity. i'd really like to have this film. perhps the guys at PRE CERT have it. not sure.

ciao ... for now
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February 24th, 2007, 2:25 pm #5

Yeah, I know him and I'll try to arrange a swap or even to buy it. I really like to watch it !!
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February 27th, 2007, 7:22 am #6

Sounds good, Miltos ...

Another film you may want to check out from A.L.T is an obscure XXX release called "Kriminal Porno" with Cuneyt Arkin. (in this film he goes under the pseudonym George Arkin) It was made in 79', a Turkish/Italian production. I'd love to check it out. I get the feeling you would to. Also, I think he has a XXX version of Stigmes Erotikou Paraxismou.

Anyway, I won't get carried away. If you ever get your hands on Joy of Fooling, lemme know via cinehound forum or email.

Soon, i'll post some photos of original Greek VHS's I picked up down here. Some Italian ones as well. The greek videos are mainly Stavros Video Centre releases, which (i think) was the main distributor for greek videos in the 80's down here in Australia. I even know where this place used to be. It was in Melbourne, a suburb called Northcote. It was a large warehouse. In fact, the sign for the now defunct Stavros Video Centre still hangs outside that place. Very misleading.

i recall seeing some of these videos i have on your old site. i've forgotten the names (since i don't speak or read greek) so it would be nice to have confirmation, plus legitimacy of the actual tapes. (i've read here and there that many of the tapes down in australia were just bootlegs, but, i find this hard to believe. Stavros Video Centre was a legitimate distributor)

anyway, Miltos, it won't be for a little while until i can post this stuff. hope things are well ... Marcus

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February 27th, 2007, 4:54 pm #7

Yes, post them as I like very much to see them
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March 17th, 2007, 12:38 pm #8

The hardcore version of EROTIKI TELETI / THE CEREMONY was released (with some cuts) in Italian cinemas in the early Eighties as "Porno frenesie di una vergine". This version was about 13-14 minutes longer than the cut version recently released in Greece on dvd in the erotic series by New Star / Proto Thema (which, by the way, includes a very hot scene with Samantha Romanou...).
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December 6th, 2007, 11:09 am #9

I recently managed -after so many unsuccessful attempts- to locate a copy of the UK cut release (soft, but very near h/c) of "The Joy of fooling around". This was actually a copy made out of the hard version released in the US by Cal Vista, minus of course ... the hardcore scenes and .... 25 mins of the (overall) action! Unfortunately, it seems as the UK Censorship committee cut this version to only 59 mins, leading the film to a very abrupt end, totally inconsistent with the whole plot (The Greek VHS by Hi-Tech has a duration of ca 84 mins, and it seems as the future DVD reedition will correspond to that one, as well).

The main interest of this version consists in the existence of 3 (most probably hardcore) scenes, absent from the available softcore one, all of them involving the second hotel -blonde- maid (Aleka Kalafati):
1. Her first scene with a hotel client, that Samantha Romanou peeped from a key-hole (which could be briefly seen in the soft version, as well) was fully shot "from the interior" of the room, and was most probably hardcore (unknown guy, btw).
2. The same girl has a sexual encounter with Kleon Zamidis at dawn in some kind of field (swamp). This could have also been a hard scene (but I am less convinced in comparison to the first one).
3. The same girl has a very heated lesbian scene with Magda Makri in the bathtub. This scene was also as hard as one could expect.

There were no other elements concerning the well known strong sex scenes involving Makri, Romanou, Zamidis & Yiftopoulos (Gift), that looked like the ones included in the soft version. But who knew what went on in the remaining -missing-minutes (I am referring especially to the scene of Makri & Gift by the seashore). Btw, the scene after which the original box cover was made (Romanou naked staring at Gift inside a boat), which was absent in the soft version is also included in this version destined for the foreign markets.
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January 2nd, 2011, 6:58 pm #10

stratagakis wrote: Hi Miltos, and to all lovers of Classic Greek Sexploitation!

Zo Gia Ton Erota is another classic Omiros Efstratiadis flick from circa, 76'. It stars the sexy Magda Makri, whom is one of my favorite sexploitation actresses of that era.

This movie, Zo Gia, was released as a softcore flick, but like so many of these movies of that time it is suspect to having actual hardcore. Which brings me to my next point:

The Joy of Fooling Around is the English Dubbed version of this film, with a limited release by CalVista in 1978, I think. Apparently, this is the only known hardcore version of this film, but by some reports found on the internet, it is uncertain that the hardcore scenes are inserts or performed by the actors. Most reports suggest that they are real.

My question is: Does anyone have a copy of this film? (THE JOY OF FOOLING AROUND, that is) I've been trying to get a copy, but no such luck as of yet.

Miltos, I'm not sure if you have this version. Either way, I'd be interested on hearing your opinion about it.

Also, I see that Venus Video has a hardcore version of Erotiki Teleti/The Ceremony that goes under the title She was a Virgin. It seems that this version has additional footage to the one I traded with you last year. In fact, it seems that this may be a fuller version, as the Dutch Arpa version i traded with you was slightly disjointed and cut short near the end. Do you know anything about this version? Let me know, either way.

Hope all is well.

Stratagakis (marcus)
thanks to your info i found this movie 2 days ago.thanks a lot!!!
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