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Samson and Delilah

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10:24 PM - Apr 02, 2017 #1

I made a compare of the indonesian movie Samsan and Delilah.

thank you Kurt for giving me a dvdr of the Korean vhs.

these 3 version I compared with each other:

French DVD
French / PAL / Widescreen


Korean VHS (dvdr copy)
English language / NTSC / Fullscreen


Malaysian VCD
Bahasa / PAL / Fullscreen


some random screenshots to compare the image quality of the 3 versions


the dvd is clearly the better version. the image is not cropped, sharp, a bit dark, but for this rare movie, a real joy, also has the longest runtime.
the vhs has the lowest image quality .... but an english audio track......runtime is shorter as the dvd.
the vcd has brighter colors. there are some "night and indore" scene that are very dark on the dvd, and much clearer on the vcd, has the shortest runtime, but has 1 scene that is not on the dvd or the vhs.

the vcd is dubed in bahasa, the funny thing is that many of the dialogs between delilah and her father are partly in dutch,
this is ofcours because they play dutch occupiers.

a great fan project could be made when the audio of the vhs would put under the french dvd.

Samson dan Delilah
year: 1987
runtime: 93 minutes
Producer: Ram Soraya
Director: Sisworo Gautama Putra
Writer: Naryono Prayitno, Tim Soraya Film
Cast: Paul Hay, Suzanna, Eddy Gunawan, Melisa Husein, Corbi
Main language Bahasa

Synopsis

A retelling of the Samson and Delilah story, Paiman is a child conceived when a Dutch colonial raped his mother in Java. So Paiman has fair skin and blond hair. He is also an undefeated champion fighter, who is arrested when Delilah, a daughter of a colonial resident, tricks him. Shortly before the execution is carried out, Delilah starts to love Paiman, of whom she calls by the name, Samson. By using his recovered supernatural power, Samson demolishes the courthouse and kills every colonial, except Delilah.

the cuts are based on the runtime of the french dvd

at:
03:37 - this scene is ONLY on the vcd. after the prayer samson has an extra work-out scene


04:33 - the rape scene of samsons mother is not on the vcd

09:49 - samsons flasback has a blue filter over it on the dvd and the vhs version, on the vcd the colors stay normal

+/- 35:00 - while samsons friend is beying beaten by the cyclops and his hoodlums. we see the cyclops in a short cut. this is only on the vcd.


35:34 - when samson throws the spike shield to the cyclops, the cyclops is cut in half. this scene is only on the dvd.


47:40 - the shaman grabs the heart out of the lieutenants chest. he holds the heart infront of the lieutenant before he drobs dead. the full scene is only on the dvd, the version on the vhs is also cut.


55:34 - samson is in a battle when an evil spirit, he cuts his body in 2, now he has to fight the legs only. this scene is in both dvd and vcd


62:05 - during the love scene delilah is sucking a banana! this scene is only on the dvd. the love scene is completely cut from the vcd


79:00 - samson eyes are stabbed out by the lieutenant, and he is trown in jail. a friend of samson comes to visit him during the night to give him hes eyes back! with help of some voodoo power the his eyes in her tits. when samson pushes his face against her tits he will get his eye-sight back! this scene is not on the vcd.




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1:37 PM - Apr 03, 2017 #2

Thanks for this. Somebody should sync the English audio to the DVD.
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9:45 PM - Apr 04, 2017 #3

Member-X wrote:Thanks for this. Somebody should sync the English audio to the DVD.
No someone should scan the negative in 4k, restore and release on bluray


I have the older French DVD with a slightly nicer cover but the runtime is exactly the same
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5:34 PM - Apr 11, 2017 #4

candela wrote:
Member-X wrote:Thanks for this. Somebody should sync the English audio to the DVD.
No someone should scan the negative in 4k, restore and release on bluray
I can see that happening any day now...

Another possibility is to make "dubtitles" based on the VHS and subtitle a laserdisc rip. Unless Shootgringoshoot happens to speak Indonesian.
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7:06 PM - Apr 11, 2017 #5

would be great if somebody want to make a fandub.
I dont have the software for it.


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11:28 PM - Apr 11, 2017 #6

Awesome compare! Thanks, Tom!!!

Is Kotar (or whatever his forum name is) still on this board???
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11:30 PM - Apr 11, 2017 #7

shootgringoshoot wrote:the vcd is dubed in bahasa, the funny thing is that many of the dialogs between delilah and her father are partly in dutch,
this is ofcours because they play dutch occupiers.
I noticed the same on some of the THE WARRIOR vcd's. Parts of Dutch dialogue.
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6:37 AM - Apr 12, 2017 #8

Jack J wrote:Awesome compare! Thanks, Tom!!!

Is Kotar (or whatever his forum name is) still on this board???
you are welcome jack, if you can find that dvdr of satans bed, I can make a compare between the german vhs, maybe the korean vhs and your dvdr. have to see if I can spot a vcd of the movie

I havent seen peter / kothar online for a very long time, no idea if he still collects?


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2:39 PM - May 29, 2017 #9

would like to make a fan project of this movie, still looking for orriginal artwork / lobby card


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5:28 PM - May 29, 2017 #10

shootgringoshoot wrote:would like to make a fan project of this movie, still looking for orriginal artwork / lobby card
Good luck Gringo! :up:
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