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April 18th, 2011, 9:13 pm #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXXTCc-IVg

I think this guy is right. These companies make billions of dollars each year selling peace of mind in the form of pills. Over-weight? don't waste time with exercise, there is pills for that. Depressed? There is pills for that. Not getting enough calcium? don't bother with milk, there is pills for that. Have high blood pressure? Here take some Lipitor, we make 13 billion annually (and rising) off of that pill alone.

The key is to not make cures, but relief from pain and disease. Don't fix the problem, just cover it up.
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April 18th, 2011, 10:50 pm #2

That can't be true, Bayer founded and for a long time supported a soccer team (Bayer Uerdingen), they are the good guys!
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April 18th, 2011, 11:41 pm #3

Well, I am sure that infograph contains biased information, but I also don't think it is all that misleading either. There is some truth in there.

I also don't know anything about Bayer, but funding a soccer team doesn't automatically make them the 'good guys' in my books.

What does Bayer produce? I am sure if you do some research you will be shocked at what you find. Maybe not though.

I think I did this out of bordem once for Procter and Gamble after buying some Pringles. Its amazing all the stuff these guys have their hands in.
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~In a challenge to L? Bu, Zhang Fei said, ?Stay, O twice bastard! I, Zhang Fei of Yan, await you!?

~While defending Liu Bei's retreat, Zhang Fei wards off Cao Cao's Force at Changban Bridge by shouting, "I am Zhang Fei of Yan! Have you a man who'll fight it out to the death?"

~Cao Cao, assessing Zhang Fei's challenge says this before pulling back his troops, "Once Lord Guan told me that Zhang Fei had taken the head of a chief general before the eyes of his own legions as easily as removing an object from a sack. Today we have crossed his path and must take care."
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April 18th, 2011, 11:57 pm #4

Wicked_Joker wrote: Well, I am sure that infograph contains biased information, but I also don't think it is all that misleading either. There is some truth in there.

I also don't know anything about Bayer, but funding a soccer team doesn't automatically make them the 'good guys' in my books.

What does Bayer produce? I am sure if you do some research you will be shocked at what you find. Maybe not though.

I think I did this out of bordem once for Procter and Gamble after buying some Pringles. Its amazing all the stuff these guys have their hands in.
That was sarcasm anyway...
They funded that soccer team for PR reasons (soccer is like the national sport here, though I don't care).
In my point of view, if a pharmaceutical company, a company that "makes medicine to heal people" has to rely on sport for their image, it's obvious they have something to hide.
Not that they are the most evil company out there, but free market economy certainly isn't nice to the weak ones.
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April 19th, 2011, 1:23 am #5

i can post the protocol i followed to make aspirin in the lab last week. my product came out 99% pure based on the analysis i ran. let's take the first step towards slugging big pharma in the nuts
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April 19th, 2011, 1:25 am #6

Here's the 94-95' tshirt of that team featuring the bayer logo and even the name of some drug. That is a bit weird, seeing the name of a drug so large in a sports shirt http://www.diariosdefutbol.com/images/2 ... dingen.jpg

By the way the tshirt design is conclusive proof that they're evil to some extent. There was a general lack of taste in the 90's, but that's one of the ugliest designs I've seen in my life :yakult:


Hehe, restless leg syndrome, I do that sometimes. I can't believe they expect you to take a drug for it. I'm not against drugs, but I don't think every problem can be solved with one.
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April 19th, 2011, 11:06 am #7

Brutacox wrote: Hehe, restless leg syndrome, I do that sometimes. I can't believe they expect you to take a drug for it. I'm not against drugs, but I don't think every problem can be solved with one.
They can, but should they?
With one cyanite capsule all problems are over...
Until not so long ago Docktors in this countrys tried to only use drugs if all other means failed, the trend to all purpose drugs was more or less limited to America, however it changed, for the worse.
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April 19th, 2011, 5:59 pm #8

I`m sure my family and friends would be buying me stacks of RLS (restless leg syndrome) pills if they knew they existed, and then breaking the capsules and sneak them into my dinners.

I`m studying a bit of pharmacy now, the lesson I am reading is actually going over all the laws they passed through the 1900`s that pretty much led to this event, the 20 year patent mentioned here, there used to be a law that actually stated doctors had to use brand name drugs, which are more cheap, but do the same work a generic drug on the market would. This made Americas health care sky-rocket. But they did that to limit the amount of counterfeit drugs. But this has changed since then, now doctors prescribe a lot more of the generic drugs, or at least they can now.

Another fun fact is that as we use more and more medications, some viruses and diseases in the community develop antibodies, and immunities to them. As this becomes more the trend, prescription drugs are going to have to become that much stronger to combat the viruses they fight. Stonger bugs, stronger drugs.
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April 19th, 2011, 7:36 pm #9

SgtPigeon wrote: the 20 year patent mentioned here, there used to be a law that actually stated doctors had to use brand name drugs, which are more cheap, but do the same work a generic drug on the market would. This made Americas health care sky-rocket.
I believe you meant to say that brand names are more expensive. As a matter of fact Pfizier's bread and butter Lipitor is coming to that 20 year patent mark and there are already some generics out there. They risk falling down the ladder a few steps because that drug represented most of their revenue.
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~In a challenge to L? Bu, Zhang Fei said, ?Stay, O twice bastard! I, Zhang Fei of Yan, await you!?

~While defending Liu Bei's retreat, Zhang Fei wards off Cao Cao's Force at Changban Bridge by shouting, "I am Zhang Fei of Yan! Have you a man who'll fight it out to the death?"

~Cao Cao, assessing Zhang Fei's challenge says this before pulling back his troops, "Once Lord Guan told me that Zhang Fei had taken the head of a chief general before the eyes of his own legions as easily as removing an object from a sack. Today we have crossed his path and must take care."
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April 19th, 2011, 7:45 pm #10

durp, yeah I meant generic was cheaper. :cookie:

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