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April 16th, 2018, 3:20 pm #2221

They cant do a time jump after pointing out the herd, they have to deal with it in some way.
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April 16th, 2018, 3:34 pm #2222

We're gonna need a bigger zombie grinder.....
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April 16th, 2018, 4:18 pm #2223

I'm still waiting for someone to go "wait a minute, reanimated dead is magic!" and begin learning spellcraft immediately.
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April 16th, 2018, 11:42 pm #2224

They cant do a time jump after pointing out the herd
Imagine the first scene of the new season: some of the series regulars herding a giant group of walkers using noise, similar to Rick's plan for the quarry zombies a while back. The group is sent shambling away from a settlement, then the regulars go back into the settlement and we see that it's been built up significantly using the techniques from the book. The herd from the first scene wasn't the herd from the end of this season, but we've seen how they now deal with large groups of walkers (including, presumably, the herd from the end of this season). Boom, time jump. (I also thought that Rick's "they're the problem" speech was more about walkers in general, and not a huge threat from that specific herd, but it was vague enough that the writers would do well to deal with it right up front.)
If they do a time jump they're going to have to first address the Maggie, Jesus, and Darryl coup against Rick for sparing Negan's life.
Her speech did talk about building Hilltop up first. It wasn't a quick strike the way she described it, but more of a long-term goal. I think the problem there is having someone like Jesus hold onto his anger for long enough to still want to set the settlements on fire just to kill Negan after all that time. It was iffy that he'd want in on this plan in the first place, and he's going to want to tear down civilization to satisfy someone else's bloodlust?
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April 16th, 2018, 11:49 pm #2225

They need a god damned time-jump. Like far in the future after all of the current characters are dead. Everyone's schtick has worn thin, and the war with Negan dragged on way too long. Although I agree that the past 4-5 eps have been well done.

Change the thread subtitle to THIS IS WHAT CARL WANTED because they're going to be saying that ad nauseum for the next billion episodes.
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April 17th, 2018, 1:22 am #2226

Maggie AND Jesus AND Daryl scheming against Richonne? Come'on. 

They're obviously not trying to stage a coup against Rick, just do something behind his back, I think. 

- Ah, I give up. This show's writing has gotten so stupid. 

If Eugene hadn't sabotaged the Saviours, Rick and crew would be GONE. Rick has had only a handful of moments where he saved his group throughout the entire series. The rest of the way he damned them to hell. 

And I still don't recall when Morgan went from "All Life Is Precious"(tm) to what he became. I don't recall the moment that change happened again for him. Sadly, Morgan's character has been a big part of TWD and, now, FTWD.

The premiere ep of FTWD at least is good. 
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April 17th, 2018, 5:16 am #2227

I really can't get over every last weapon misfiring catastrophically at the exact same time.  No jams, no duds, just a firecracker string of exploding guns, and I really have to wonder what Eugene cooked up to make a rifle explode like that.  They're sort of designed NOT to do that.
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April 17th, 2018, 8:35 am #2228

I liked the season finale. I'm in the camp of those who are happy Negan was kept alive. He's the most interesting character on the show to me. I don't know if Maggie and Daryl are going to try and overthrow Rick and Michonne or just try to kill Negan behind their backs. Either way, I suspect Jesus will warn Rick. He was being agreeable to everything Maggie was saying but it looked like he was thinking "what the fuck are you talking about?". I think that something will happen in season 9 that will change Maggie and Daryls minds about seeking revenge and bring the family back together again.
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April 17th, 2018, 12:11 pm #2229

my problem with the show at this point is that it’s just meandering like a soap opera. no true advancements are being made anymore (unlike earlier seasons where the group sought out the CDC, and then trekked north for help).

now, it’s all about who has drama with who next. it’s much less the walking dead and much more Zombie Days of Our Lives

i realize the comic is on a similar path, but i really had hoped the show would keep advancing towards something greater (a new city, a possible cure or cause, etc).

the constant gang/turf wars element isn’t as fun, and has lost so much of the zombie apocalypse/survival/adventure element for me.
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April 17th, 2018, 9:41 pm #2230

Either way, I suspect Jesus will warn Rick. He was being agreeable to everything Maggie was saying but it looked like he was thinking "what the fuck are you talking about?"
Yeah, that made no sense to me - one minute Jesus is lecturing Morgan on how "not killing people" is the way to go, and then in the next scene he's all cool with Maggie saying Negan should have been killed?

wtf, really?
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April 18th, 2018, 9:55 pm #2231

And I still don't recall when Morgan went from "All Life Is Precious"(tm) to what he became. I don't recall the moment that change happened again for him. Sadly, Morgan's character has been a big part of TWD and, now, FTWD.

It was a slow burn, first with Carol and the Wolves and then when



The whole "who killed my brother thing" from Nu-Carl was from Logan who was basically the beta test for this seasons' what Carl wanted theme.  Logan was basically the best that this world could provide and when he died brutally and senselessly it changed directions for Morgan, Carol, and Ezekial
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April 19th, 2018, 1:35 am #2232

Thank you  for the summary. 
Morgan's character is autistic...? When's he driven by conviction he devolves into a childish drone. It's not heroic or even anti-heroic. It rather reminds me of the classmate in 1st grade who insisted on eating Elmer's Glue upon getting scolded.

Oh, and I totally forgot about Logan.
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April 19th, 2018, 2:10 am #2233

butt fighter wrote: Thank you  for the summary. 
Morgan's character is autistic...? When's he driven by conviction he devolves into a childish drone. It's not heroic or even anti-heroic. It rather reminds me of the classmate in 1st grade who insisted on eating Elmer's Glue upon getting scolded.

Oh, and I totally forgot about Logan.
Morgan is crazy and damaged but he's also a good person.

Stage 1 - He loses his wife and he has to protect his son.

Stage 2 - His son dies and he basically becomes a survivalist crazy hermit.

Stage 3 - He's healed to a point by Eastman, a person who spends months putting him back together...but he's still tramatized and crazy.


Stage 4 - He then tries to play the role of Eastman towards one of the Wolves, and the group decide that Morgan's way isn't the right way the Wolf dies. 


Stage 5 - He comes across Logan who is sort of a surrogate son future leader type deal and his death just pushes Morgan back to Stage 2 when Dwayne died



Morgan has now decided to move on and be alone but now he's come across two other loners, the journalist and the gun slinger.  And he now has a new surrogate son Nick and see what happens with that.
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April 19th, 2018, 3:30 am #2234

He's PTSD more than anyone, it seems. He lost his son because he didn't put his zombie wife down. She came back and bit Duane, who he left in zombie form.
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April 19th, 2018, 8:29 pm #2235

Is that in the comics because that's not how it went down on the show
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April 19th, 2018, 10:22 pm #2236

snakey.losttheunofficalforumfortheabcseries wrote: They cant do a time jump after pointing out the herd, they have to deal with it in some way.
Yes, they can do the time jump with the herd. This is how it was done in the comics:
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After the time jump, they have developed a system where people on horses patrol between the communities and lead the herds away from them, sort of like herding cattle.
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April 23rd, 2018, 3:30 pm #2237

NOT happy with Negan being kept alive. Idgaf about Carl. I'm sick of that character and need to stop hearing from his yapper. 

#teamMaggie
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April 23rd, 2018, 3:32 pm #2238

#Resistance
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April 23rd, 2018, 9:00 pm #2239

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April 23rd, 2018, 10:28 pm #2240

Thanks Gabriel, dont they still have the quarry to lead them into like they did in the past?  Some ditch and burn them like before, in fact early season had basic ways to have them walk into moats and fall and then burn them up.
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