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June 5th, 2018, 7:44 pm #2861

1.) Sandra: The only two time winner in Survivor History.
2.) Yul: Played an amazing game and only needed one try.
3.) Parvati: Played a great second and third game.
4.) Earl: Solid winner zigged when he needed to zig and zagged when he needed to zag. 
5.) Kim S: Great game.
6.) Rob Mariano: Played a perfect game but took him four tries. 
7.) Tony V: Played somewhat impulsively but still a great win.
8.) Richard Hatch: The original.
9.) Todd Herzog: Great social game.
10.) J.T: Very lucky player but his statistics are still good.
11.) Jeremy Collins: Solid winner his first game was lackluster however.
12.) John Cochran: Ugh
13.) Brian H: The first dominant winner.
14.) Denise: Killer instincts.
15.) Tina: Played a amazing social and strategic game.
16.) Wendell: Great winner good social game
17.) Sophie Clarke: Somehow beat Coach great final tribal council.
18.) Tom Westman: Physical winner.
19.) Tyson: His third time out he played well.
20.) Michele: Great winner.
21.) Chris: Played from the bottom well.
22.) Ethan Zohn: Very likable winner.
23.) Natalie White: Russell was a goat so this win was easy.
24.) Bob Crowley: Weird dude.
25.) Mike Holloway: No just no.
26.) Sarah Lacina: Indifferent.
27.) Adam Klein: ...
28.) Natalie Anderson: Decent Winner.
29.) Vecepia: Decent...
30.) Jenna M: Weird win.
31.) Fabio: Bad winner.
32.) Aras: He fails. 
33.) Danni: Beat Steph so theres that.
34.) Ben: Production won.
35.) Amber: Not good.
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June 6th, 2018, 7:30 am #2862

Boston Rob would have lost in a jury vote to most of the merge, maybe everyone but Phillip and Natalie.  He did not play a "perfect game" by any stretch of the imagination.
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June 6th, 2018, 10:58 am #2863

1-35
It's up to you.
36
Ben
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June 6th, 2018, 3:36 pm #2864

SurvivorfanNinja wrote: 1-35
It's up to you.
36
Ben
Ben is the 100th best winner out of 36 IMO.
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June 13th, 2018, 2:38 am #2865

To be a good Survivor Winner you need these 4 things

1. Good socially
2. Good strategically
3. Adaptability
4. Charisma.

Bob is the worst if u add all these together

Socially: 5
Strategically: 1
Adaptability: 1
Charisma: 6

+1 for each immunity that saved him

13/40 (-3) = 10/40
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June 13th, 2018, 3:16 am #2866

Ladies Man 30 wrote: To be a good Survivor Winner you need these 4 things

1. Good socially
2. Good strategically
3. Adaptability
4. Charisma.

Bob is the worst if u add all these together

Socially: 5
Strategically: 1
Adaptability: 1
Charisma: 6

13/40
I would give him a 6 for social instead of a 5.  He wasnt that liked or effective but had no real enemies, other than maybe Randy who still gave him his vote which was the deciding vote in his win as he hated Susie a bit more.  And close bonds with the Onions (minus Randy) and Sugar.   Still overall the worst easily.
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June 13th, 2018, 4:53 am #2867

Ben:

Socially: 6

Strategically: 5 (solid strategic game until the final 7)

Adaptability: 7 (His double agent stuff was good, worked with Cole even tho he didn't like him personally, did his best to adapt when was everybody's target)

Charisma: 8

1 + Points get knocked for each idol that saved him, and fire

26/40 (-4) = 22/40
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June 13th, 2018, 5:35 am #2868

Might as well do the winners who are considered bottom tier.  If u think I need to change a score then fell free to let me know

Fabio

Socially: 7
Strategically: 3
Adaptability: 2
Charisma: 5

+1 points taken off for each immunity that saved him

17/40 (-3) 14/40


Mike

Socially: 6

Strategically: 5 (Shown bright spots early, just couldn't get anything solid together once the merge hit)

Adaptability: 7
Charisma: 8

+1 points off for each immunity that saved him

26/40 (-5) = 21/40


Natalie W

Social: 7

Strategically: 3 (Never wanted to make a strategic move.  Too scared to Ruffle RUSSELLS feathers.  Slid utr the whole game and enjoyed the free ride)

Adaptability: 7 (saw the girls on her tribe get wiped out and made sure to stick tight to the alpha male and have him make all the strategic decisions)

Charisma: 6

23/40

36. Bob (10-40)
35. Fabio (14-40)
34. Mike (21-40)
33. Ben (22-40)
32. Natalie W (23-40)

Don't remember much of people like Michele/Amber etc to score them
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June 13th, 2018, 5:55 am #2869

Michele's game wasnt that good.  Aubry was a much better player that season and was robbed by a bitter jury.   Especialy Debbie, Scot, and Jason who all voted Michele almost entirely out of bitterness.   Cydney and Julia were Michele's only 2 legitimate votes.

I think Amber's game was good.   She rid behind Rob a bit but that was very smart, and she wasnt a submissive wallflower like Natalie White either.  She was the one who pulled Rupert and Jenna in the alliance with Rob and her, not Rob, and she won the crucial F4 immunity, which Rupert nearly won and if Rupert had won instead Rob or Amber probably are rocked out here, and we probably end up with a Jenna/Rupert F2 in the end.   She benefitted from a bitter jury but she could reasonably expect Rob to face a bitter jury since he had betrayed many real life plans and it was part of her plan.  Michele by contrast could not have reasonably expected Aubry who in addition to dominating the strategy and boots in the merge, was relatively nice to everyone and had decent jury management, to face a bitter jury, and flat out lucked out this was a very immature bunch, worse than even the All Stars, Samoa, Heroes vs Villians, and other noted bitter juries.
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June 14th, 2018, 2:18 am #2870

I think that Michele is the worst female winner because she attended only 5 tribal councils and didnt even vote correctly in all of them. Plus she got extremely lucky that a medevac happened at final 5 otherwise she would have been voted out. She was a good social player but thats the only thing that could be said about her. 
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June 14th, 2018, 4:03 am #2871

sonofthebeach wrote: I think that Michele is the worst female winner because she attended only 5 tribal councils and didnt even vote correctly in all of them. Plus she got extremely lucky that a medevac happened at final 5 otherwise she would have been voted out. She was a good social player but thats the only thing that could be said about her. 
For me she is like the female Fabio.  Very pretty young person with pretty flowing beautiful hair, very fuckable, funny, clueless strategist who barely knew what was going on and usually voted wrong, pretty likeable although not amazingly so but created no real enemies on the jury which is the biggest thing if you make the end, great in challenges and caught lightning in a bottle with timely quits by others/timely immunity wins right when she needed them, and won over someone who was probably a better player but made a lot of the jury bitter and also lacked the needed social bonds with some other jurors (Aubry/Chase) and a 0 votes goat mess doing different version of a very bad Russell Hantz impression (Tai/Sash).   
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June 15th, 2018, 3:07 am #2872

paulsucks wrote:

  Very pretty young person  and usually voted wrong, 
Michele's votes:

Ep 8: Nick (Nick voted out)
Ep 9: Debbie (Debbie voted out)
Ep 10: Tai (Scott voted out)
Ep 11: Julia (Julia voted out)
Ep 12: Jason (Jason voted out)
Ep 14: Aubry (tie vote, Aubry won fire-making challenge)

That's 4 correct, 1 wrong, 1 tie.

If you're going to post here, get your facts straight. Otherwise you'll come across as a useless wanker with your head stuck up your ass (which is probably true, but you don't want to advertise this).
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June 20th, 2018, 2:21 am #2873

Technically Cydney was still the one voted out and more importantly Michele was a total idiot to want Cydney in the final with her since if Cydney was there instead of Aubry, Michele would have lost the game.  So that has to count as a wrong vote.
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June 20th, 2018, 7:40 am #2874

But I think Cydney didn't vote for Michele over Aubry if Michele just voted off Cydney. Cydney pretty much explained she voted for Michele because Michele gave her the fire making challenge chance.

Michele's problem is more like that had Joe not got medibacked, she would have been voted off.
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June 20th, 2018, 1:58 pm #2875

How do people know Michele wouldnt have won the Final 5 immunity though?  She was strong in challenges, probably the best of this season.  She has a good shot to win any immunity.  
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June 20th, 2018, 2:38 pm #2876

kassisqueen wrote: How do people know Michele wouldnt have won the Final 5 immunity though?  She was strong in challenges, probably the best of this season.  She has a good shot to win any immunity.  
The same challenge was used as the reward challenge and Michele lost it.
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June 20th, 2018, 2:55 pm #2877

SurvivorfanNinja wrote:
kassisqueen wrote: How do people know Michele wouldnt have won the Final 5 immunity though?  She was strong in challenges, probably the best of this season.  She has a good shot to win any immunity.  
The same challenge was used as the reward challenge and Michele lost it.
OK thanks.  I could see maybe Cydney and Joe saving Michele and voting out Tai though.  Remember at Final 6 Aubry wanted to vote out Michele, Tai was even using his extra vote for it, but Cydney and Joe convinced Aubry not to.
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June 20th, 2018, 11:04 pm #2878

Had Aubrey of lost the fire making challenge then I don't think it would of been Cydney easily. Scott, Julia, and Jason were very bitter towards Cyd at ponderosa and wouldn't even acknowledge her presence. They didn't like Tai either so thats automatically three votes for Michele. If Michele also won the jury boot challenge then she would of gotten Neil out still, then it is pretty close. More than likely Debbie and Nick would of voted for Michele. 
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June 21st, 2018, 4:57 pm #2879

Wonderguy wrote: Had Aubrey of lost the fire making challenge then I don't think it would of been Cydney easily. Scott, Julia, and Jason were very bitter towards Cyd at ponderosa and wouldn't even acknowledge her presence. They didn't like Tai either so thats automatically three votes for Michele. If Michele also won the jury boot challenge then she would of gotten Neil out still, then it is pretty close. More than likely Debbie and Nick would of voted for Michele. 
No way Nick votes Michelle.  He claims he would have voted Cydney over Aubry.

Debbie made it clear Cydney was her vote if she made the end.  

There is an outside shot Michele wins over Cydney but it would require her both winning the jury boot challenge, and swinging one of Debbie or Joe, who maybe weren't locked votes for Cydney, but both more likely to vote Cydney over her.   Cydney still likely wins.  And if Michele loses the jury boot challenge, she has no shot.

The ironic thing is there is a good chance Aubry or Tai wins in a Final 3 vs Cydney.  Yes Julia, Scot, and Jason never vote Cydney I agree.  That trio vote the same way everytime: Michele > Tai > Aubry > Cydney.

In a Michele-Cydney-Tai Final 3 the votes go:

Neal- Cydney (lock)
Nick- Cydney (lock)
Debbie- Cydney (very likely)
Joe- Cydney (likely)
Aubry- Cydney (lock)
Julia- Michele (lock)
Jason- Michele (lock)
Scot- Michele (lock)

Again Michele has to win the jury challenge which we don't know if she does or not, and then
 swing 1 of the likely Cydney votes.  The odds are for sure with Cydney.

In a Aubry-Cydney-Tai Final 3 the votes go:

Neal- Aubry (lock)
Nick- Cydney (close)
Debbie- Cydney (lock)
Joe- Aubry (lock)
Julia- Tai
Scot- Tai
Jason- Tai
Michele- Cydney (near lock)

I think there is a good chance Aubry or Cydney winning the jury removal twist would more likely remove someone like Debbie or Neal and Tai ends up winning.
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