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Probably not. Sucks, isn't known for being the bastion of rationally hating or liking people!He's making a difference somehow, though I doubt very many people will give him props even if he died saving Sawyer or something of the sort.
No, it wasn't. His main reason was so all the people who had died would be alive again. All the hell they'd all been through wouldn't have happened. And as far as his motive with Kate- it's the opposite of what you said about Kate - he wouldn't know her if he uncrashed the plane. Remember "it wasn't all misery!"?His motive for dropping the bomb was to try to get Kate back.
You can post this in the end and say SEEEEEEEEEEE, told y'all!! lolmanagerr wrote:Sucks, isn't known for being the bastion of rationally hating or liking people! (ain't that the truth!)
I'm sure in the end, Jack will be proven right somehow.
No more speculative than the post i replied to that assumed theyd all be fine and dandy if the bomb hadnt detonated there. Thats the point.lizzo1 wrote:Well, we don't know if Jack saved the island. That's very speculative.phantomkp wrote:Jack saved the island, though.PinotEnvy wrote:
Sorry for the Jack lovers around here, but I was right there with Sawyer in his blaming Jack for this mess and wanting to kick his ass and/or kill Jack for what happened. When will Jack learn that he can never do anything right the first time and should just shut up and quit trying to be a "hero"? Because of his "heroics" he went and ruined Sawyer's great new life, killed Juliet and killed Sayid.
If Jack hadnt carried the load to make sure the bomb went off at the swan hatch, the electromagnetic build up there would have exploded, and destroyed the island, sending it underwater like we saw in the other timeline version.
I dont think making sure Sawyer lived with Juliet in Dharmaville for the rest of their lives is the number one priority here *rolleyes*
Yes Jack is self righteous, stubborn, and hotheaded. So is Sawyer. You say Sawyer is more likable because he doesnt try to pretend to be otherwise...plays into it. Which is understandable. The funny rogue is ALWAYS more likable no matter how much of a bastard or obnoxious they are.managerr wrote:Because Sawyer admits he's a con artist and is self-loathing enough to admit he's a shitty person. Jack is self-loathing too, but in a different way. When he first debuted, the character was self-righteous and mr. morals, everyone around him constantly disappointed himself because they couldn't live up to his high standard. (He pretty much was doing to everyone else what his father did to him) The character has grown some, but memories linger on.I love Sawyer, too. I just don't understand why he's so damn perfect and never hated. I think people who don't like Jack will never like him no matter what. No objectivity.
You did make it up! You misinterpreted the conversation.lizzo1 wrote: I don't blame Jack for Juliet's death. I just said his motive for dropping the bomb was to get Kate back. That was his motive. He says so to Sawyer in the above conversation. I didn't make it up.
Well even more than that...she wanted Jack to set off the bomb. So shes complicit.tigeranne wrote: oh yeah. I can see the argument that it's all Jack's fault that Juliet died. however, Juliet made the decision to leave the
sub and come back. so, it's kinda her own fault.... sorta. Maybe a little.
JULIET: There's nothing to talk about, James. We have to let Jack do what he came here to do.
SAWYER: Well, maybe you shoulda told me you had a change of heart before I brought him out in the jungle to kick his ass.
JULIET: Would that have stopped you?
JULIET: What we had, it was just for a little while, and just because we love each other, it doesn't mean that we're meant to be together. I mean, maybe we were never supposed to be together. So if Jack can make it that--that none of you ever come here, then he should.
SAWYER: Why you doing this, Juliet?
JULIET: [Voice breaks] I... if I never meet you, then I never have to lose you.