You Ever Wonder Why??? (Why Jesus was called God in Isaiah?)

DCA
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July 22nd, 2015, 4:47 pm #451

Corrections please: it was JOHN who recorded Jesus saying of the "another Comforter" who in the epistles (abandoned by the progressives) that the comforter or Paraklete is named JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS.

The progressives says that The Holy Spirit God person was the SECOND comforter.

It was John which we quoted who said that if you deny that--

Father - Son relationship which is ONE GOD and ONE MAN then you are an ANTICHRIST. Please don't accuse the Spirit OF Christ of losing His temper.
Ken said "Father - Son relationship which is ONE GOD and ONE MAN then you are an ANTICHRIST. Please don't accuse the Spirit OF Christ of losing His temper."


Now, you are speaking for Christ? I know you think that you are a higher ranking than most humans, but wow Ken.....

It is hard to translate the interpreter sometimes. Maybe, you misspoke. Hillary does that quite often.
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July 22nd, 2015, 5:22 pm #452

Paul wants BOTH men and women to be quiet and peaceful.

The PURPOSE DRIVEN CHURCH "that all might be saved or SAFE and come to a knowledge of the truth."

The women are to be silent because they were self-authoring and were believed to have contact with the gods when they were mad as Paul warned. To SILENCE everyone but the READER -discussion leader;

1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
and ONE mediator between God and men,
the MAN Christ Jesus;


ALL of the commands to keep the women silent in the READING ASSEMBLY and Confessing are because THEY were always USED as oracles. Only women could fall into SPEAKING tongues which speaking and Paul connects to playing instruments CLAIMING that they are SINGING FOR God.

If you deny that Jesus made to be Lord and Christ was a MAN or came IN the flesh John says that you are an antichrist.

Women at Woodmont: John Mark Hicks Work product.

Woodmont Hills Church, Nashville, TN.

STAFF
Dean Barham, senior minister;
Meredith Moseley, church life minister;
Joan Gregory, minister of caring services;
David Sessions, youth minister;
Claire Frederick, children & family minister;
Robin Brannon, worship minister;
Jesse Baker, middle school minister;
Reid Hillin, college minister.

The Woodmont Hills Church recently announced a policy change that invites women to serve in all roles with the exception of elder, pulpit minister, and primary worship minister. Women are on staff as various types of ministers,
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they serve as deacons,
.....lead public prayers,
.....read scripture,
.....present devotional thoughts,
.....give testimonies,
.....deliver communion meditations,
.....serve communion,
.....and sing on the praise team.
.....Women have led worship during special assemblies (Sunday and Wed. nights) and women regularly teach adult bible classes


All of the discorders were/are connected to Lipscomb.

Anyone know about their attendance?




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Bill
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July 22nd, 2015, 6:12 pm #453

Ken said "Father - Son relationship which is ONE GOD and ONE MAN then you are an ANTICHRIST. Please don't accuse the Spirit OF Christ of losing His temper."


Now, you are speaking for Christ? I know you think that you are a higher ranking than most humans, but wow Ken.....

It is hard to translate the interpreter sometimes. Maybe, you misspoke. Hillary does that quite often.
The Spirit of Christ does not moderate message boards; humans do. Nor is it logical to think that the Spirit of Christ is with those human moderators who lose their tempers and resort to sarcasm and character assassinations against people who disagree with them and who condemn those people as liars and antichrists.

When moderators lose control of themselves, the spirit of Satan has taken them over. The Spirit of Christ wants no part of them.
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July 23rd, 2015, 2:38 am #454

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Rancor,

I was just reviewing the Spelling & Grammar thread and found this near the end of the thread: "The 'Doctor' is in, HURRY LOCK THE DOOR!!" LOL. Before that someone was having "fun" with anagrams. So, what "handle" will you be using in case we look for you at GCM? Visit CM when you can or when you're bored over there.[/color]
A picture of Rancor. Better than I thought!

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July 23rd, 2015, 6:26 am #455

Ken said "This is the only forum that fully supports the Church of Christ (The Rock) from the wilderness onward.

Church is ekklesia consisting of all of those who have enrolled as disciples in the School of Christ. The church in assembly is called a synagogue: A Synagogue is..."


In other words...Ken...you aren't going....
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Dave,

The proper question to the Christian should be: "Are you enrolled as a disciple (learner) in the school of Christ?" I'll highlight elements in the following passages that should catch our attention:

Acts 7:[37] This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. [38] This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Heb. 5[12] For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

1 Pet. 4[11] If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever.

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July 23rd, 2015, 7:30 am #456

The Spirit of Christ does not moderate message boards; humans do. Nor is it logical to think that the Spirit of Christ is with those human moderators who lose their tempers and resort to sarcasm and character assassinations against people who disagree with them and who condemn those people as liars and antichrists.

When moderators lose control of themselves, the spirit of Satan has taken them over. The Spirit of Christ wants no part of them.
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]I thought it was John who wrote about "liars and antichrists."

That was a long list of a moderator's qualifications: a human, losing his temper, sarcastic, character assassination expert, condemner, out of control.

If you honestly believe that what John said does not apply to you, why keep thinking about that a lot?[/color]
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July 23rd, 2015, 1:51 pm #457

Yes, John wrote about liars and antichrists, but sometimes moderators lose control, step out of bounds, and condemn as liars and antichrists those who do not believe exactly as they do in all Biblical matters. Those moderators believe they have a monopoly on Biblical interpretation which, of course, is not only rubbish but completely irrational.

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July 24th, 2015, 12:06 am #458

A picture of Rancor. Better than I thought!

When God abandons you, you no longer have access to the mysteries hidden in plain sight. There are many passages which clear up unclear passages. For instance, Jesus of Nazareth did not create the ice mountains on Pluto. He facilitated a NEW WORLD ORDER and and a HEAVENLY TABERNACLE which no pretender can enter not lead others there. The Throne Room is the Most Holy Place of the heavenly tabernacle. Jesus never preached "Just Jesus" but he and everyone preached THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM of God: Jesus said DON'T go seeking earthly kingdoms because the Kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU. That is were we ONE BY ONE worship IN SPIRIT (a place) and giving attention to THE TRUTH which no one can add to or enhance.

God said that He is not a MAN nor the SON OF MAN. Man is a little lower than the angels. Jesus was made a little lower than the angels. If you say that Jesus was NOT IN THE FLESH like His brethren then Scripture says you are an antichrist.

Psa. 8:3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy FINGERS,
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the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
Psa. 8:4 What is MAN, that thou art mindful of him?
.....and the SON OF MAN, that thou visitest him?
Psa. 8:5 For thou hast made him a LITTLE LOWER than the angels,
.....and HAST crowned him with glory and honour.
Psa. 8:6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of THY hands;
.....thou HAST PUT all things under his feet:
Psa. 8:7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
Psa. 8:8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea,
.....and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.
Psa. 8:9 O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!

Heb. 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed
.....to the things which we have heard,
.....est at any time we should let them slip.
Heb. 2:2 For if the WORD spoken by angels was stedfast,
.....and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
Heb. 2:3 How shall we escape,
..... if we neglect so great salvation;
.....which at the FIRST BEGAN to be spoken by the Lord,
.....and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Heb. 2:4 God also bearing them witness,
.....both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles,
.....and GIFTS of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?
Heb. 2:5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
Heb. 2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying,
.....What is man, that thou art mindful of him?
.....or the SON OF MAN, that thou visitest him?
Heb. 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels;
.....hou crownedst him with glory and honour,
.....and didst SET HIM OVER the works of THY hands:
Heb. 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet.
.....For in that he put all in subjection under him,
.....he left nothing that is not put under him.
.....But now we see not yet all things put under him.
Heb. 2:9 But we see Jesus,
.....who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,
.....crowned with glory and honour;
.....that HE by the grace of GOD should taste death for every man.

Heb. 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum:
.....We have such an HIGH PRIEST,
.....who is set on THE RIGHT HAND of the throne
.....of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb. 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the TRUE tabernacle,
.....which the Lord pitched, and not man.
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July 24th, 2015, 1:53 am #459

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Dave,

The proper question to the Christian should be: "Are you enrolled as a disciple (learner) in the school of Christ?" I'll highlight elements in the following passages that should catch our attention:

Acts 7:[37] This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. [38] This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Heb. 5[12] For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

1 Pet. 4[11] If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever.

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Deut. 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee [fratribus] a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; HIM SHALL HE HEAR.

C. to hear, to listen to, to obey, heed;


This seems to Limit what Jesus as Messiah fulfilled of the "prophecies concerning ME" as the DISCIPLE'S SCHOOL BOOK.
Paul commanded the APT elders to TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. That would seem to limit an elder or senior pastor from deciding to teach SOMETHING ELSE because it is more relevant.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth

Spirit is a PLACE in contrast to mountains and houses. Worship is IN THE PLACE of the human spirit or heart.
That excludes "observations" or religious rituals CLAIMING to be worship exclusive of the WORD or LOGOS
God is not worshipped in houses built by human hands or by the acts of human hands. That does not limit worship or "giving heed to Christ's word in a HOUSE but it defines the "worship" concept as exclusive of rhetoric, singing, playing instruments all defined as they acts of the hypocrites.

The Woman at the Well understood that the CHRIST would not be a SPIRIT but a TEACHER.

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh,
which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us ALL things.
John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that SPEAK unto thee am HE.


I Am He does not mean God who AM NEVER flesh and blood.

2Pet. 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God AND our Saviour Jesus Christ:
2Pet. 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through
the knowledge of God,
and of Jesus our Lord

It isn't very risky to say that Jesus was God in the flesh are ANTICHRISTS and despisers of the Word which is the definition of blasphemy.

2Pet. 1:3 According as his divine power
hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:


Almost without exception the statements and practices deny that we HAVE BEEN given all that pertains to life and godliness. God does not give us how to carry on affairs not controlled by knowledge pertaining to life and godliness. The preacher who says that "a" spirit told him to change the PATTERN is never an ignorant person: Paul says they are lying in wait to deceive. Their decade-long process proves that they are devious.

2Pet. 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these
ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


Ephesians 2 says that we are SAFE by Grace through faith: SAFE from what? The first part defines the CORRUPTION of their old (now new) practices.

People who are purpose driven NOT to obey the direct pattern threaten people who choose NOT to participate with them. All of the RACA words are reservied for the ANTI-INSTRUMENTALISTS who dare flee Babylon by direct command of God and the Campbells.

THERE IS NO EXCEPTION: over and over the function of the ekklesia in assembly (synagogue) is to TEACH that which has been taught. We can be evangelists in our own area by putting a biblical teaching lesson in each household each week.
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July 24th, 2015, 1:55 am #460

Yes, John wrote about liars and antichrists, but sometimes moderators lose control, step out of bounds, and condemn as liars and antichrists those who do not believe exactly as they do in all Biblical matters. Those moderators believe they have a monopoly on Biblical interpretation which, of course, is not only rubbish but completely irrational.
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Sorry, Bill, you keep adding to your list of adjectives describing the moderators. I can take it. It sounds like a prayer in vain repetition. It reminds me of the Hail Mary repetitive prayer on EWTN ("Eternal World Television Network"). [/color]
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