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Those Who Can't Sing....Criticize!
Everybody...on the count of three, follow our "Worship Critic" and recite this together. A one- a two a three...
(Key of B#)
I heard an old old story, 'bout a church that loved His Glory! They would sing and praise His name all day because their hearts had joy! But several of the members didn't want to "stoke those embers" so every week they griped and lied to others faithfully.
"Oh Saddlebackers, Praise Teams, Lifting Hands and Clapping. Their Holy Entertainment's loud and keeps us from our naps. Women leading prayers, oh Satan's set his snare! So here's the plan, we'll hold our checks and then we'll get our way!
Verse # 2
Oh but the plan backfired! 'Cause the Spirit filled weren't tired. They praised His name right through the trial and fasted night and day. The others just got flustered at attempted filabusters. The only thing thing they really proved is "Tantrums Never Pay".
(Now, don't sing this too loud, you might be mistaken for a "Praise Team")
It's hard to give a serious consideration to people who are in essence ridiculous. Everyone who has made an attempt to seriously discuss an issue with you, Donnie, has been belittled or worse. The old saying is true, "Never try and teach a pig to sing...it frustrates you and annoys the pig." Can you say oink? I thought you could! Lesson over...unless of course you'd like to give your standard 6 page response. But really, it's getting a bit dull, could you put your response in a poem or maybe ....never mind. You might consider that Holy Entertainment. Thanks Donnie Cruz...you and this site is the best laugh I've had all week.
"Laughter doth the heart good like a medicine."
Response to how cruel:
So, no one is suppose to question Bobby. He is suppose to be able to make all the wild accusations right and left. With all his self appointed authority, anyone who dares question him is bound for hell. Wake up and start thinking for yourself instead of following hook, line and sinker these self appointed critics who do nothing but criticize.
I have heard people say that to begin with they were leaning with Bobby but the more he writes he has turned me off completly. If he keeps going perhaps he will convert a few more. Does the Book say something about a man's work being made manifest? Give it time.
Ken, so you are an Engineer. I guess that makes you an expert critic and qualifies you to be a "shepherd" at large for the whole country. The one thing needed is a few more brotherhood watch dogs. Why don't that congregation in Hohenwald make you an elder if you are so smart? You even know most of the elders across the country and how they were appointed. And sounds like you may even be an expert coon hunter. Yes an expert doesn't need agreement from anyone. So ride on brother but I warn you, your "scheme" is not making very much headway as I see it.
What qualifies me? Nothing. I don't claim to be an expert so I don't need much qualifications. I have just studied the Book since as far back as I can remember. I was taught it by a godly father and mother. I have read after and listen to the best men I could find. I paid more attention to those who were positive than the negative ones.
I am still looking for some "Biblical evidence" that you post that is not slanted. Perhaps you should go back to Bible 101aaa and take a refresher course. I guess I'm one of those "Old Faithful, mature members" but I don't run off so easy, not even by a Engineer turned shepherd at large. By the way, is there a congregation that you have stripped, if so, I would like to see just what is left. I think I may have hit a nerve. Sorry............
Since you have opened the door for speaking the truth?????
Fact: Donnie Cruz shows up for 10:30am worship at quarter to eleven
Fact: Donnie Cruz does not sing
Fact: The beautiful singing you refer to IS the congregation singing with the song leader.
Fact: There is NO praise team in corporate worship at the Madison Church of Christ on Sundays.
Fact: By your own admission, you make notes for those that need to know. Why don't these people come for themselves?
Donnie, Why don't you come downstairs and learn the TRUTH.
Reply to Donnie Cruz, Re: That Explains it:
It seems to get under your skin when someone questions what or why you may be doing what you are doing. Just what do you hope to accomplish? Just which congregation are you encourageing members at Madison to go to. Are you keeping the same tabs on everything that happens "wherever" it is your membership is? Or perhaps you are one of those "members at large" I have met a few of those. They have membership no where, that way they are accountable to no one and seem free to stir up things everywhere.
You indicate that singing is suppose to be congregational. Do you mean that the only singing that is acceptable is congregational? What percentage of the congregation MUST sing? You are so smart in the Scriptures, Where is the chapter and verse that requires such? Waiting for your reply.......