Truth in love...Parables against the WISE: speakers, singers, instrument players

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June 24th, 2015, 10:03 pm #11

Yes, CM often does whenever someone's belief differs from that of CM. CM does not have a monopoly on Biblical interpretation.
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]No, CM is a religious discussion forum, and it allows differing beliefs to be expressed.

Yes, it is correctly stated that CM does not have a monopoly on biblical interpretation. That's why expressing differing beliefs is permitted. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a doctrinal discussion forum any longer.[/color]
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Bill
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June 24th, 2015, 10:19 pm #12

Of course CM "permits" different beliefs. The catch is that when people believe differently from what CM believes, then CM condemns those people as liars and antichrists, as if CM has a monopoly on Biblical interpretation. Hey, now THAT'S the way to "speak the truth in love."

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June 25th, 2015, 12:29 am #13

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]I'm very certain "liars and antichrists" are identified in the Scripture. CM did not originate their IDs.[/color]
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June 25th, 2015, 1:04 am #14

Yes, we know that the terms "liars" and "antichrists" are in the Bible. We all know, because CM cashes in on that quite frequently. Now since CM believes that it has a monopoly on interpretation of Scripture (i.e., CM believes that its interpretation is THE ONLY CORRECT interpretation), then CM condemns as liars and antichrists all who have different interpretations.

There's been high talk about not resorting to name-calling during discussions. Perhaps CM should re-evaluate its position about welcoming "different" beliefs and Scriptural interpretations. When CM gets on a roll of condemning as a "liar" and "antichrist" anyone with different Scriptural interpretations, the impression may be left that the people running CM are behaving like an arrogant little bunch of stiff-necked, goose-stepping, Nazi Kommandants. Now we certainly don't want anyone to get that kind of impression about CM, and we don't want CM to leave the impression that they are behaving like an arrogant little bunch of stiff-necked, goose-stepping, Nazi Kommandants. No sir, that just would NOT do at all. We couldn't have anything like that, because it would be unacceptable.

On the other hand, if CM persists its name-calling by frequently hurling "liars" and "antichrists" against those with different Scriptural interpretations, then I don't see how people can avoid regarding CM as behaving like an arrogant little bunch of stiff-necked, goose-stepping, Nazi Kommandants.
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DCA
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June 25th, 2015, 1:05 am #15

Truth in Love has two parts.
The WORD of God

2Cor. 6:7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
Eph. 1:13 In whom ye also trusted,
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after that ye heard
.....the word of truth,
.....the gospel of your salvation:
.....in whom also after that ye believed,
.....ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


Baptism INTO the Word or into the School of Christ is the SEAL that you have A personal holy spirit.

James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


WORD excludes any personal comments, rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or acting.

The WORD of God is the SEED: it is also that which connects the branches to the Vine. Word is LOGOS as the Regulative Principle which the end-time theologians mock and despise. There is no way to sell your own songs and sermons or musical performance without proving self-love. Paul and the Greek literature defined corrupting the Word or selling learning at retail as prostitution. Their kind of love is not validated by TRUTH (exclusively). Paul denied "unity in diversity" because Jesus does not pray for the world (ecumenical) and said that any performance replacing the WORD is not love but is LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.



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And then.....instead of leaving it alone....we have a two part dissertation on 'Truth in love'

Nice touch!

Donnie, say what you want and nice play on words, by the way, but beng called antichrist and liar by Sublett is judgmental, and although it is seen in Scripture, when calling someone by those names when we are trying to have a debate is ignorant and unholy. I believe that ignorant and unholy is in the Scriptures. I have used the term evil as a description of this site and the staff's take here on a lot of issues and especially it's condemnation of those they disagree with. Evil is also Scriptural.
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June 25th, 2015, 1:26 am #16

This thread is about truth in love.
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Bill
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June 25th, 2015, 1:53 am #17

And then.....instead of leaving it alone....we have a two part dissertation on 'Truth in love'

Nice touch!

Donnie, say what you want and nice play on words, by the way, but beng called antichrist and liar by Sublett is judgmental, and although it is seen in Scripture, when calling someone by those names when we are trying to have a debate is ignorant and unholy. I believe that ignorant and unholy is in the Scriptures. I have used the term evil as a description of this site and the staff's take here on a lot of issues and especially it's condemnation of those they disagree with. Evil is also Scriptural.
This thread encourages posters to have more civil discussions without name-calling. Now the most frequently used name-calling terms on CM seem to be "liar" and "antichrist," and it also seems that those terms are abused much too often. They should only be Scripturally used and not always when someone has a different Scriptural interpretation from the moderators. As examples...

If a person says, "Jesus is not the Christ," s/he is a liar and an antichrist, because the Scriptures explicitly say so.

If a person says, "Jesus did not come in the flesh," s/he is a liar and an antichrist, because the Scriptures explicitly say so.

If a person says, "I deny the Father and the Son," s/he is a liar and an antichrist, because the Scriptures explicitly say so.

If a person says, "Jesus is God" and the moderators holler "liar" and "antichrist," they abuse the terms and resort to name-calling, because there is no Scripture that explicitly condemns the belief that Jesus is God.

Let's keep all this in mind during our discussions.
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Layman
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June 25th, 2015, 2:35 am #18

This thread is about truth in love.
Ken, perhaps for you, true love is when Horus scratches your itching ears?
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June 25th, 2015, 3:14 am #19

Yes, we know that the terms "liars" and "antichrists" are in the Bible. We all know, because CM cashes in on that quite frequently. Now since CM believes that it has a monopoly on interpretation of Scripture (i.e., CM believes that its interpretation is THE ONLY CORRECT interpretation), then CM condemns as liars and antichrists all who have different interpretations.

There's been high talk about not resorting to name-calling during discussions. Perhaps CM should re-evaluate its position about welcoming "different" beliefs and Scriptural interpretations. When CM gets on a roll of condemning as a "liar" and "antichrist" anyone with different Scriptural interpretations, the impression may be left that the people running CM are behaving like an arrogant little bunch of stiff-necked, goose-stepping, Nazi Kommandants. Now we certainly don't want anyone to get that kind of impression about CM, and we don't want CM to leave the impression that they are behaving like an arrogant little bunch of stiff-necked, goose-stepping, Nazi Kommandants. No sir, that just would NOT do at all. We couldn't have anything like that, because it would be unacceptable.

On the other hand, if CM persists its name-calling by frequently hurling "liars" and "antichrists" against those with different Scriptural interpretations, then I don't see how people can avoid regarding CM as behaving like an arrogant little bunch of stiff-necked, goose-stepping, Nazi Kommandants.
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]"Nazi Kommandants": mentioned 3 times in one post. Thanks for the name-calling. We're adding that one to the growing list.

We will continue to post scriptures that are related to the doctrinal issue being discussed. If a scripture doesn't hit a nerve, a poster should be able to continue the discussion. If it hits a nerve and the poster keeps complaining, resorting to name-calling and deviating from the subject matter at hand, it is that poster's problem. [/color]
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June 25th, 2015, 3:20 am #20


Ken, perhaps for you, true love is when Horus scratches your itching ears?
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Layman, this thread must have awakened you?[/color]
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