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June 30th, 2017, 7:24 pm #1

Jesus used many metaphors when teaching. Such as these verses:

Matthew 13:3-10 (KJV)
3[And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, ] Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Having grown up in the city I knew nothing about agrarian society. Fortunately, my husband was from a farming family and he has taught me the principles of gardening and animal husbandry. This is has helped me understand the scriptures better. Preparing the soil reminds us to prepare our children's minds with Christ's truth. Also, domestic animals are leery around strangers this will remind them that Jesus Christ is the true Shepherd. Further comments and examples welcome!
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July 1st, 2017, 6:37 pm #2

Mt 13:1 The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.

Mt 13:2 And great MULTITUDES were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

Mt 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;

Mt 13:4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

THE MARK THE FOWL OR BIRDS WHO TAKE THE WORD OUT OF YOUR CHILDREN'S MOUTH IS SATAN AND HIS EVANGELISTS and His KOMA is induced by musical instruments. That angers all wings of the FOWL.

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
.....but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:>
Mark 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive;
.....and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
.....lest at any time they should be converted,
.....and their sins should be forgiven them.
Mark 4:13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable?
.....and how then will ye know all parables?
Mark 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Mark 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown;
.....but when they have heard, SATAN cometh immediately,
.....and taketh away the WORD that was sown in their hearts.

The WORD or Logos is God's Regulative Principle. The FOWL who take the Word out of everyone's mouth intend to "make people forget God''s Name by the tales they tell one another." They are performance preachers for hire, singers or instrument players: Jesus called them hypocrites by referencing Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33.

The Birds, fowl or SEED PICKERS are the Devil and his ANGELS or preachers will be in the TREE he built because the mustard-seed kingdom does not come with observation meaning religious observations beyond being a SCHOOL OF THE WORD ONLY.

For OUR time as in the very beginning, the CLERGY are the "dogs" of the same Babylon Mother of Harlots. Watch for the fluttering and peeping and muttering in the morning. The BEAST is well defined as the Aborigines or those who are not INBREATHED with A holy spirit and the MARK is "A new style of music or Satyriic (Panic-Cappella) drama. They are Lusted After Fruits as in Amos 8: as any craftsman, speaker, singer, instrument player they are SORCERERS and Jesus had John POINT FINGERS that they WILL BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

.....Rev. 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice,
........saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,
........and is become the habitation of DEVILS,
........and the hold of every foul spirit,
........and a cage of every unclean and hateful BIRD.

The only Spiritual Covenant made by God in Christ was with Abraham that the only blessings would be with his SEED-singular with no part of Judaism considered.

Gen. 15:10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst,
and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not. [and a turtledove, and a young pigeon]
Gen. 15:11 And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.

The Fowl are hurl insults. They sweep down like a vulture: the Greek harpage, Rapture or a Sectarian.

Forerunner: What are the "birds of the air"? Demons! They try to get us when we are young in the church. Like the lion of I Peter 5, they go for the stragglers, the weak, and the newborn, because they are the easy pickings. What is step one of Satan's plan against the church? Attack God's people early in their calling. Distract them. Persecute them. Crush them—before they are strong enough to resist.

The faith like a "mustard seed" speaks of the smallest faith: birds love mustard seed. A regular mustard plant for the kingdom of Christ is very small: Jesus doesn't call the MULTITUDE and only the rare few who are persecuted by the FOWL of the air or Devil are invited to "come REST and Learn of Me." For the demon birds, that is spelled CENI for what is believed and practiced in the small "mustard" plant which assembles ONLY to obey the command to Rest, Read and Rehearse THE WORD of God.

Luke 13:19 It is like a grain of mustard seed, WHICH A MAN TOOK, and cast into HIS GARDEN;
.....and it grew, and waxed a great tree;
.....and the FOWLS of the air lodged in the branches of it.

The FOWL are unclean birds and cannot be offered to God: they are Vultures or Parasites who feed off the rot willingly because they are OF the World or Aborigines and cannot have the Breath of Life or A holy spirit.

Of the Lord-Lord "prophesiers" or musical performers: The Christian World View is the Kosmos, ecumenical or the kingdom of Satan. They are in a panic just now because their TIME (KAIROS) is short.

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there FEW that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate:
.....for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door,
..........and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door,
.....saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I
.......... know you not whence ye are:
Luke 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

A heretic or sectarian is one who "lifts you up" with performance to RAPTURE your property flock.

The Jacob-Cursed and God-Abandoned Levites as the PATTERN for the world has the same root meaning of Leviathan or serpent god spread even into Central America.



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July 10th, 2017, 4:13 pm #3

You start on the path at "A" to get to the goal of "B". This is the quickest and easiest way. Then a friend comes along and tells you there is an easier way, and you make a minor course correction. As your walking along there is a mountain range or river forming on your right. The further you go that obstacle gets so large it seems impossible to get back to the route from A to B, and you realize your headed to C. You start today climbing that mountain or fording that river or turn back to find A. Realizing your on the wrong path is the start of course correction.

Matthew 7:13-15 (KJV)
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. [15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Philippians 4:13 (KJV)
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Matthew 17:20 (KJV)
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
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July 11th, 2017, 2:54 pm #4

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July 12th, 2017, 6:21 pm #5

When I was a child, preachers would talk about going to hell and how Satan was walking around seeking whom he would devour.
While the sermons were necessary as a warning, there wasn't much talk, that I remember, about how to recognize him. He becomes associated in our minds as the monster under the bed. He is in the darkness and he is ugly. Then you have media that makes you think you will always be able to see him because they make it so evident which character he portrays.

When Jesus is talked about or visually pictured, he is always portrayed as attractive, and no scars or blood. So he becomes everything that is beautiful in this world. He is good and kind. Never a harsh word to anyone because he is merciful. God is then a kind old man with gray hair. He reminds of us of Santa Clause, because he gives good gifts and the good things of this life.

We all know what happens in the script of life. We become afraid of Satan and our fear and respect of The Lord is minimized. I am not opposed to celebrating Christmas and trading gifts but as parents we might want to rethink the Santa Clause thing.

Satan gives us what we want, but our Lord Jesus Christ gives us what we need!

Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

2 Corinthians 11:14 (KJV)
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

1 Peter 5:8 (KJV)
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Isaiah 53:2-3 (KJV)
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. [3] He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
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July 12th, 2017, 7:49 pm #6

[1]Also, [2]I [3]said, [4]the [5]State, [6]if [7]once [8]started [9]well, [10]moves [11]with ........

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Added to prior post:

Adam Clark addresses the Serpent Issue in Genesis

However, let me make it clear: I don't believe in any of the images of the devil as a grotesque man-beast. Inside, he is hideous but outside he is an angel of light. He is old, gray headed and his words flow like liquid gold. He is young, charismatic. To be effective he will "be as much like you as possible." He will help you tear down your old beliefs even if they are from God and tell you that he has a brand new system which will meet all of your needs. Even if you would help hang Jesus on the cross you will love him/her. In ancient tradition, Satan could appear as a tall and handsome male; to Adam and Seth he appeared as a beautiful woman with lots of music.
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Bill
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July 13th, 2017, 12:48 am #7

According to Dianna, Adam Clark said, "...to Adam and Seth [Satan] appeared as a beautiful woman with lots of music."

So now we turn portions of the Bible into fiction as an excuse to condemn music.
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July 13th, 2017, 1:10 am #8

Jesus used many metaphors when teaching. Such as these verses:

Matthew 13:3-10 (KJV)
3[And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, ] Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Having grown up in the city I knew nothing about agrarian society. Fortunately, my husband was from a farming family and he has taught me the principles of gardening and animal husbandry. This is has helped me understand the scriptures better. Preparing the soil reminds us to prepare our children's minds with Christ's truth. Also, domestic animals are leery around strangers this will remind them that Jesus Christ is the true Shepherd. Further comments and examples welcome!
Angels of Light are evangelists trying to make themselves shine. a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication, a pastor: — angel, messenger.

However, God IS Light and Jesus came to REFLECT that Light. Those for whom Jesus came love the LIGHT or WORD and those OF the Earth or Dust people REFUSE to come to the light. They are like moths flocking around a candle power evangelists speaking about himself. The Devil has His angels and Aboddon or Apollon has his MUSES as fallen angels to be his musical worship team.

The Muses were Apollon's Musical Worship Team: they are unleashed in Revelation 9 and John and others identify them as LOCUSTS.<font face="blue">

Rev. 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of MEN.
Rev. 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of WOMEN, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
Rev. 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the SOUND of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to BATTLE.


They actually boast about MAKING WORSHIP WARS and claim names like KAIROS who marks the TIME when the Devil knows that time is short and the battle gets violent.

They are marked like the fallen at Mount Sinai and the Halal singers whose light is the LUCIFER word as the counterfeit.

Their Voice of vox is like the Halal of Warrior Psalms intended to make war and defeat the enemy with threats “inclinata ululantique voce canere,” “ululanti voce canere, They call it music but to many of us it is howling “resonae ripae,” Sil. 6, 285: “Dindyma sanguineis Gallis,
of places, to ring, resound, re-echo with howling: “penitusque cavae plangoribus aedes Femineis ululant,”


THE ARE bloodthirsty Gallus
A. Galli , ōrum, m., the priests of Cybele, so called because of their raving Gallus , i, m., a priest of Cybele, Mart. 3, 81; 11, 74; cf. Quint. 7, 9, 2: “resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,” Juv. 8, 176.—And satirically (on account of their emasculated condition), in the fem.: Gallae , ārum, Cat. 63, 12, and 34.— Of or belonging to the priests of Isis, Gallic: “turma,” the troop of the priests of Isis,


The INSTRUMENTS of the emasculated use simulated or real DRUM or percussion instruments to MARK their gender.

PAUL WARNED against the dogs, concision or the emasculated.

tympănum I.a drum, timbrel, tambour, tambourine. as beaten by the priests of Cybele. Also by the Bacchantine females, Ov. M. 11, 17.—Beaten by the Parthians as a signal in battle in place of the tuba B. Trop., a timbrel, etc., as a figure of something effeminate, enervating: “tympana eloquentiae,”


In Revelation 18 they are called "Lusted after fruits" just like those in Amos 8 whose singing in the temple turned to "howling" and the PROOF that "God had been there and would not pass by again."

Rev. 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings [to make you empty] in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
Rev. 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
Rev. 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.


It will get worse and worse.

Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old SERPENT, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his ANGELS were cast out with him.</font>
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July 13th, 2017, 1:26 am #9

Added to prior post:

Adam Clark addresses the Serpent Issue in Genesis

However, let me make it clear: I don't believe in any of the images of the devil as a grotesque man-beast. Inside, he is hideous but outside he is an angel of light. He is old, gray headed and his words flow like liquid gold. He is young, charismatic. To be effective he will "be as much like you as possible." He will help you tear down your old beliefs even if they are from God and tell you that he has a brand new system which will meet all of your needs. Even if you would help hang Jesus on the cross you will love him/her. In ancient tradition, Satan could appear as a tall and handsome male; to Adam and Seth he appeared as a beautiful woman with lots of music.
I haven't read that from Adam Clark but he was a pretty wise person: one of the few who understood that God did NOT command anyone to worship with instrumental noise. He may get that from the king of Tyre as a type of Lucifer and the builder of the temple in Jerusalem. The Spirit OF Christ or God breathing into the Prophets are not part of most clergy education. For instance in Isaiah Tyre is like Jerusalem after the Return.

Is. 23:15 And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years
shall Tyre sing as an harlot.


How does a harlot sing, Isaiah?
Is. 23:16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered.
Is. 23:17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the Lord will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.


Like Jerusalem, those who were religious and commercial prostitutes used the money for the Temple which God did not command.

Is. 23:18 And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the Lord: it shall not be treasured nor laid up; for her merchandise shall be for them that dwell before the Lord, to eat sufficiently, and for durable clothing.


Those who were not part of the God-abandoned Civil-Military-Clergy were fleeced like lambs and their bones "craunched" by the greedy Religionists.

Ezek. 28:11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
Ezek. 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Ezek. 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Ezek. 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezek. 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ezek. 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezek. 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Ezek. 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.


Defiled is h2490 Chalal like the Halal praise word which means to make self vile. It means to profane a person, to break one's word, from h2485 to play the flute, to steal people's inheritance, player on the pipe, player on instruments, pollute, prostitute, cast as profane out of heaven.

Ezek. 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.


Astonished is to devastate, be made destitute, wasted. There is a huge mocking and hissing against the "effeminate worship leader" even as they are deluded into thinking that the are "standing in a holy place" replacing the WORD of God.

Jerusalem is called Egypt, Sinai, Sodom and the mother of harlots. All who sell learning at retail have to CORRUPT the Word and Paul's word means to PROSTITUTE it.
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July 13th, 2017, 4:16 am #10

Angels of Light are evangelists trying to make themselves shine. a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication, a pastor: — angel, messenger.

However, God IS Light and Jesus came to REFLECT that Light. Those for whom Jesus came love the LIGHT or WORD and those OF the Earth or Dust people REFUSE to come to the light. They are like moths flocking around a candle power evangelists speaking about himself. The Devil has His angels and Aboddon or Apollon has his MUSES as fallen angels to be his musical worship team.

The Muses were Apollon's Musical Worship Team: they are unleashed in Revelation 9 and John and others identify them as LOCUSTS.<font face="blue">

Rev. 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of MEN.
Rev. 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of WOMEN, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
Rev. 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the SOUND of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to BATTLE.


They actually boast about MAKING WORSHIP WARS and claim names like KAIROS who marks the TIME when the Devil knows that time is short and the battle gets violent.

They are marked like the fallen at Mount Sinai and the Halal singers whose light is the LUCIFER word as the counterfeit.

Their Voice of vox is like the Halal of Warrior Psalms intended to make war and defeat the enemy with threats “inclinata ululantique voce canere,” “ululanti voce canere, They call it music but to many of us it is howling “resonae ripae,” Sil. 6, 285: “Dindyma sanguineis Gallis,
of places, to ring, resound, re-echo with howling: “penitusque cavae plangoribus aedes Femineis ululant,”


THE ARE bloodthirsty Gallus
A. Galli , ōrum, m., the priests of Cybele, so called because of their raving Gallus , i, m., a priest of Cybele, Mart. 3, 81; 11, 74; cf. Quint. 7, 9, 2: “resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,” Juv. 8, 176.—And satirically (on account of their emasculated condition), in the fem.: Gallae , ārum, Cat. 63, 12, and 34.— Of or belonging to the priests of Isis, Gallic: “turma,” the troop of the priests of Isis,


The INSTRUMENTS of the emasculated use simulated or real DRUM or percussion instruments to MARK their gender.

PAUL WARNED against the dogs, concision or the emasculated.

tympănum I.a drum, timbrel, tambour, tambourine. as beaten by the priests of Cybele. Also by the Bacchantine females, Ov. M. 11, 17.—Beaten by the Parthians as a signal in battle in place of the tuba B. Trop., a timbrel, etc., as a figure of something effeminate, enervating: “tympana eloquentiae,”


In Revelation 18 they are called "Lusted after fruits" just like those in Amos 8 whose singing in the temple turned to "howling" and the PROOF that "God had been there and would not pass by again."

Rev. 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings [to make you empty] in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
Rev. 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
Rev. 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.


It will get worse and worse.

Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old SERPENT, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his ANGELS were cast out with him.</font>
There wasn't a footnote on that quote and I perhaps shouldn't have used it. Mr. Clark does speak about the fact that the translation of the word serpent may not be the correct definition. It is one of those words in the scriptures that is very unusual and derogative. You can read his commentary on Studylite.org in Genesis 3.

Don't beat me up too bad Bill, I had a public education.

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