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Ken wrote:Yes, I remember: the date 2003 is a date which will live in infamy when you began the effort to expel me. And, yet, here I am still quoting Scripture which you still cannot understand.
You missed Elder101a which commands that you "teach that which has been taught in the Prophets and Apostles, which was validated by Jesus of Nazareth and left "for our learning" in those explained Prophets.
Both Jesus and the Apostles radically repudiate the Civil - Military - Clergy complex. The command is to PREACH the Word by READING the Word for Comfort and Doctrine.
Burton Coffman may be the only fairly recent Church of Christ scholar who has read the text beyond "gitin up a sermon."Ken wrote:
David was a KING and Kings make war and not worship. The Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites prophesied with instruments but they were not inspired prophets: they were soothsayer-sorcerers. When you praise the king or queen with bagpipes you intend to make the enemy deficate and run for their life. ALL of the praise words intend to FORCE a god to come to your aid. In the case of David's army the TREAT was:
We are going to ROB you
We are going to RAPE you to proove our superiority
Then we are going to RAPTURE your head off.
Religious PRAISE SINGING intends and does the work of the Alpha Billy Goat to instill a laded burden or "spiritual anxiety through religious ritual" to intimidate you and warn you NOT to open your mouth unless it is a SALVATION ISSUE.
Jesus said that the kingdom DOES NOT COME to such OBSERVATIONS, that the kingdom is WITHIN you and worship is IN THE PLACE of the sanctified spirit as we GIVE ATTENDANCE to the WORD (Logos or Regulative Principle). Therefore, the Progressive churches, as Joseph Campbell warned, CRACK OFF TO THE ARCHAIC when their old religion does not meet THEIR needs or harvest enough FLEECE.
And I write:
I have seen the times when music overwhelmed the Lord's Supper as well as the invitation--all the private thoughts of the participants in the Lord's Supper and all the intents of the invitation of the speaker were overwhelmed by singing. Both happening simultaneously. In both cases, I see the WORD replaced by the noise of singing.
The combination of instrumental music, militarism, flag-waving, and noise was also present in the time of David Lipscomb when he saw the Word being overwhelmed by such activities. It was not the instrumental music alone, but it was hand-maiden to militarism and flag-waving and a desecration of the Word. These were manifestations of the Civil-Military-Clergy Complex. Its result was strife, war, death, defeat, and poverty.
It will get worse but cheer up the signs are ripe and the FRUITS will fall. They MOCK the Regulative Principle claiming that they have "a" spirit guiding them and I doubt it not. The LOGOS means the Regulative or Governing Principle. Therefore, being ANTI-Logos they are ANTI-Christ Whose words in the Prophets and Apostles are the only teaching resource and they MARK FOR AVOIDANCE those wearing tutus and singing and clapping.
<font face="arial" size="4">George Weigel writes for First Things, Oct. 30, 2013, that alas, few Christians in the West seem aware of the Suffering Church, much less have it weigh on their Christian conscience.
Christians today live in the greatest tribulation-time in Christian history. More Christians were killed for fidelity to Christ in the 20th century than in the previous nineteen centuries of Christian history combined.
Wiegel cites the following examples of persecution from a recent issue ofTouchstone:
Some 1,200 Protestants are being imprisoned in shipping containers in Eritrean desert camps where torture is routine.
Mostafa Bordbar, a 27-year-old Christian convert, was arrested and charged with illegal gathering and participating in a house church in Iran.
Kazakh Christians, many of them converts from Islam, are encouraged, by the arrest and imprisonment of their pastors, to refrain from evangelism.
A Muslim leader in central Nigeria regularly abducts Christian girls and women and holds them captive in his home, to compel their conversion (or reversion) to Islam.
In Syria and Egypt, Christians live in daily fear for their lives where its open season on Christians.
AND IT COMES AS NO SURPRISE THAT THOSE OF OUR HOUSEHOLD OR PSEUDO-CHURCH HAVE PILED ON BECAUSE THEY ARE OF THE WORLD AND JESUS DOES NOT PRAY FOR THEM.
Matthew 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
Matthew 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
Matthew 10:26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Matthew 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Matthew 10:31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a mans foes shall be they of his own household.
This will be CUT SHORT before God's Elect fall into the smokey pit with ABADDON, APOLLYON as the leader of the Musicians.</font>
Donnie, thanks for the reply and the correction.That's a strange IP you have Ken.
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Coach,
A certain portion of the text (including the poster's name) can be inadvertently edited ... and overlooked.
It appears that the "Ken wrote:" segment was quoted by Humility from one of Ken's messages under the "Jason Shepherd" thread.
In this case, the poster's name has been changed back to Humility.[/color]