The Trinity as three: Arius -Thalia

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September 11th, 2015, 9:56 pm #11

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Rancor,

Did you get a chance to review the chart above where it listed the various Triads throughout history? There are other factors to consider, besides the scriptural references provided above, in the study of the Trinity dogma. For now, here are the Triads in history:[/color]

Triad of Babylon
Triad of Canaanite's
Triad of Hittite
Triad of [Backslidden] Israel
Triad of Egypt
Triad of Greece
Triad of India
Triad of Rome
Triad or Trinity of Roman Catholicism
--- Father, Son, Spirit
--- Father, Son, Mother (Mary)

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September 11th, 2015, 10:23 pm #12

Since you have researched the various triads in history, why don't you also research the accounts of virgin births of gods and goddesses throughout history, since they parallel the virgin birth of Jesus?

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September 11th, 2015, 10:36 pm #13

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]That would make a good topic for discussion. Would you initiate a thread for that with a premise?[/color]
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September 11th, 2015, 10:42 pm #14

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Rancor,

Did you get a chance to review the chart above where it listed the various Triads throughout history? There are other factors to consider, besides the scriptural references provided above, in the study of the Trinity dogma. For now, here are the Triads in history:[/color]

Triad of Babylon
Triad of Canaanite's
Triad of Hittite
Triad of [Backslidden] Israel
Triad of Egypt
Triad of Greece
Triad of India
Triad of Rome
Triad or Trinity of Roman Catholicism
--- Father, Son, Spirit
--- Father, Son, Mother (Mary)
[color=#000000" size="3" face="times]It might be of interest to curious readers:

1. That Jupiter is mentioned in Acts 14:12,13; Acts 19:35.
2. That Diana is mentioned in Acts 19:24,27,28,34,35.
3. That Ashtaroth is mentioned in the Old Testament.
4. That Baal is mentioned countless times in the Old Testament.
5. That "the gods" is mentioned in the Bible:

-- the gods of Egypt/the Egyptians
-- the gods of the Amorites
-- the gods of the Philistines
-- the gods of Sepharvaim
-- the gods of Hamath
-- the gods of Edom
-- the gods of the children of Seir
-- the gods of the kings of Syria
-- the gods of Damascus
-- the gods of Hamath and Arphad
-- the goddess of the Zidonians
-- the gods of the nations [... and other forms]
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September 12th, 2015, 12:52 am #15

7 Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness;

You need to read my refutation of 100% errors by David Young And the Lipscomb Infiltrators and Diverters.

They VIOLATE Paul's outlawing Jewish Fables: The Spirit of Christ clearly trashed the "lying pen of the Scribes" and charged the Scribes (song and sermon writers) and Pharisees (teachers-fleecer) with being HYPOCRITES. We posted Christ's prophecy in Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33 where He NAMED "performance preachers for pay", singers and instrument players." God said that people treated HIM just the way they treated God.

Since you have researched the various triads in history, why don't you also research the accounts of virgin births of gods and goddesses throughout history, since they parallel the virgin birth of Jesus?

We have listed evidence of Encyclopedic Proportions about Virgin Births. Even though Eve had sex with Adam she said that she had "gotten a man from god." She claimed a virgin birth. Eve is related to vires, venom, venus and Paul said that she was WHOLLY SEDUCED and that Can was OF THAT WICKED ONE. Since you don't read, you missed it all.

ALL virgin births are the product of a god seducing a virgin: she was the mother (spirit) and had a son or daughter as the result of sexual seduction as Paul warned.

However, we noted that SPIRIT, BREATH, WORD are equated because when God breathes He BEGETS whatever it is He speaks the WORD over. Mary did conceive from a GOD so the Jews and other deranged people say that Mary was the MOTHER of God. In fact we have noted that EVE or EVAH is the MEDITRIX and is called the ABOMINATION: those claiming to be daughters of Eve are clamoring to get on the worship teams and into the pulpit because, like Eve, they TWIST the Word of God.

Eve is called ZOE in the Greek and Zoe IS Venus the goddess of love.


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September 12th, 2015, 1:16 am #16

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]That would make a good topic for discussion. Would you initiate a thread for that with a premise?[/color]
Since you are far more interested in pagan mythology than I am, I'll let you have the honors.
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September 12th, 2015, 3:28 am #17

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]The study of "pagan mythology" on its own (outside of the Bible) belongs in some of the educational institutions around, not ConcernedMembers.

It's very easy for ardent supporters and followers of the pagan-originated, Catholic-invented, Protestant-propagated Trinity dogma to dismiss historical evidences of the various "triads."

I really think it would benefit anyone interested and with an open mind to study such historical evidences of polytheism in paganism in contrast to what the Scripture teaches about the only one true God the Father.

1. I do not question the virgin birth of Jesus.
2. The "virgin births of gods and goddesses" is not my idea: it's yours (Bill's).
3. I do not see a parallel -- you do.
4. Then, tell us what you have researched and why. Otherwise, this particular conversation ends here.
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September 12th, 2015, 5:37 am #18

If you're that much of a student of pagan mythology, then you cannot deny the accounts of virgin births of various pagan deities, unless you're deliberately trying to be naive and obtuse. I'm certainly no mythology student, but with just casual reading over the years, I at least am aware of myths about deities born of virgins. Are you really not familiar with that? No Christian denies the virgin birth of Jesus, so a parallel in mythology shouldn't shake our faith. But we can't stick our heads in the sand and deny the fact that a parallel exists in pagan mythology, just as a parallel exists between the Trinity and the god-triads. If you blindly reject the Trinity because of that parallel, then I guess you'll just deny the parallel between Jesus' virgin birth and that of some pagan deities. So if you're an aficionado of mythology, you can either research virgin births further, or you can play the ostrich and end the conversation here if such research would shake your faith.
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September 12th, 2015, 11:06 am #19

7 Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness;

You need to read my refutation of 100% errors by David Young And the Lipscomb Infiltrators and Diverters.

They VIOLATE Paul's outlawing Jewish Fables: The Spirit of Christ clearly trashed the "lying pen of the Scribes" and charged the Scribes (song and sermon writers) and Pharisees (teachers-fleecer) with being HYPOCRITES. We posted Christ's prophecy in Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33 where He NAMED "performance preachers for pay", singers and instrument players." God said that people treated HIM just the way they treated God.

Since you have researched the various triads in history, why don't you also research the accounts of virgin births of gods and goddesses throughout history, since they parallel the virgin birth of Jesus?

We have listed evidence of Encyclopedic Proportions about Virgin Births. Even though Eve had sex with Adam she said that she had "gotten a man from god." She claimed a virgin birth. Eve is related to vires, venom, venus and Paul said that she was WHOLLY SEDUCED and that Can was OF THAT WICKED ONE. Since you don't read, you missed it all.

ALL virgin births are the product of a god seducing a virgin: she was the mother (spirit) and had a son or daughter as the result of sexual seduction as Paul warned.

However, we noted that SPIRIT, BREATH, WORD are equated because when God breathes He BEGETS whatever it is He speaks the WORD over. Mary did conceive from a GOD so the Jews and other deranged people say that Mary was the MOTHER of God. In fact we have noted that EVE or EVAH is the MEDITRIX and is called the ABOMINATION: those claiming to be daughters of Eve are clamoring to get on the worship teams and into the pulpit because, like Eve, they TWIST the Word of God.

Eve is called ZOE in the Greek and Zoe IS Venus the goddess of love.


Ken said: "Even though Eve had sex with Adam she said that she had "gotten a man from god." She claimed a virgin birth."


Eve claimed a virgin birth? Is this in the Bible?



Did Jesus need the virgin birth to be sinless? No, he was already sinless as the eternal Son of God before His birth. In Luke 1:32 he is called the Son of the most high. v.35 he is called "that Holy one", "the Son of God". He is also called in Mt.1:23 "Emmanuel", all these titles are of God himself who is without sin. Heb. 4:15 tells us "he was at all points tempted as we are, yet without sin." 2 Cor. 5:21, " For he made him who had no sin to be sin for us;" (also 1 Pt.2:22, and 1 Jn. 3:5.) This is the reason that God became man- to be a sacrifice for all mankind's sin.
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September 12th, 2015, 1:41 pm #20

1 Timothy 4:7 English Standard Version (ESV)

7 Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness;


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An intervention by friends and family may be necessary.


We are aware that the Bible mentions some mythology; in fact only about 11 percent of all verses in the Bible that deal with mythology are found in the New Testament. Since Christians follow the tenets of the New Testament, then we need not be consumed with mythology to train ourselves for godliness.
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