The Trinitarian Circle of Joachim de Fiore

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September 29th, 2012, 7:42 pm #1

When once-Christian Bible Colleges become universities (universalists) theology replaces the Biblical text. Because Catholics play such a huge role in the theology of LU and others, it is important to realize that the "scholars"leap with all four feet on the latest books being circulated.

The Legacy of Henry Corbin

http://henrycorbinproject.blogspot.com/ ... ospel.html

Mrs. James A. Garfield told Mrs. Dickenson that Rigdon taught her father Latin and Greek.*** David Whitmer, who was so intimately acquainted with the early history of the church, testified: "Rigdon was a thorough biblical scholar, a man of fine education and a powerful orator."**** A writer, describing Rigdon while the church was at Nauvoo, said, "There is no divine in the West more learned in biblical literature and the history of the world than he."***** All this indicates that a knowledge of the earlier "Everlasting Gospel" was easily within Rigdon's reach
As Latter-day Saints we believe as all Christians do in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost (Articles of Faith 1). We believe that they are one in purpose and mission and that they are three separate divine beings.
Latter Day Saints: A Mormon Blog, "In 1997, the World­wide Church of God dropped both its objections to the doctrine of the Trinity and certain Pelagian tendencies and was accepted as a member of the National Association of Evangelicals.

This is the James A Garfield who came to Tennessee and pledged with Churches of Christ NOT to engage in the war: he went back to Bethany and collected his troups.

John Mark Hicks on Alexander Campbell

http://www.piney.com/Trinity.Hicks.Rochester.html

"Many Latter-day Saint Philosophers consider trinity to be a description of the relationship among the members of the Godhead.

"Initially, the social analogy might appear to be no better off than the egg analogy. No member of a family is itself a family; thus, we seem to be faced again with the suggestion that no member of the Trinity is God.

Though there are three distinct portions of the egg (the shell, the yolk and the egg white), the unity of God seems to be lost as each portion of the egg is something entirely different in composition, form, function, etc.

"B) Towards a Uniform Definition
John Hicks describes the revival of social trinitarianism as one of the most significant developments in contemporary theology. Along with this revival has come a certain amount of confusion concerning what exactly qualifies as a social model of the trinity.

In his lucid treatment of the issue, Cornelius Plantinga sets out the three conditions necessary for a theory to qualify as social and they bear repeating:

(1) The theory must have Father, Son, and Spirit as distinct centers of knowledge, will, love, and action. Since each of these capacities requires consciousness, it follows that, on this sort of theory, Father, Son, and Spirit would be viewed as distinct centers of consciousness or, in short, as persons in some full sense of that term.


"About the commencement of this [the thirteenth] century there were handed about in Italy several pretended prophecies of the famous Joachim, abbot of Sora in Calabria, whom the multitude revered as a person divinely inspired, and equal to the most illustrious prophets of ancient times. The greatest part of these predictions were contained in a certain book entitled, 'The Everlasting Gospel,' and which was also commonly called the Book of Joachim. This Joachim, whether a real or fictitious person we shall not pretend to determine, among many other future events, foretold the destruction of the Church of Rome, whose corruptions he censured with the greatest severity, and the promulgation of a new and more perfect gospel in the age of the Holy Ghost, by a set of poor and austere ministers, whom God was to raise up and employ for that purpose."

What animates the doctrine of the Eternal Gospel of Joachim de Flore (1145-1202), the celebrated founder of the Ordo florensis, is the idea of a development of humanity that is the continuous work of the Holy Spirit and the final end of which will be the reign of the Paraclete announced in the Gospel of John. The state of man at the end of this process realizes the perfect liberty of the Spirit which results from the love awakened by the Holy Spirit in the heart of man The development of the history of salvation by no means consists in the development of a principle immanent in history, progressing in a linear way according to laws that today we call historical causality. Far from that, the history of salvation is only realized by the active and continuous intervention of the Holy Spirit, a creative intervention that each time breaks anew the course imposed on things by the carnal will and worldly ambition."

Of Course, the Paraclete is named Jesus Christ the Righteous and He NOW reigns.



However, it is noted:

"The three Ages of which Joachim de Flore speaks [of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit] are not successive periods of historical time(and Berdiaev observes this in a profound remark...) ... the three Ages represent unities of existential time, interior time The succession of these Ages plays itself out in the interior of souls, in the mystery of each soul In historical time in fact these Ages coexist."

Spiritual Formation ignores Scripture which tells how Christ is formed in us and seeks to find that Mormon-Like Spiritual Live.
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October 1st, 2012, 9:19 pm #2

Consider Matt 6

Remember Jesus Christ taught as one having authority to both religious leaders and the common folk -

And he taught them all that all those persons who pray, give money or fast to be seen of men have their reward already, that is the acclaim of men. Is that what many of our intellectual leaders are doing ? It seems to me that todays communication media and reverence for advanced degrees have fostered an attitude for the acclaim of mankind. Many "leaders" write books, give lectures, parade around campus and generally are held in esteem for these things. Yet the scripture says that we are to humble ourselves before the mighty hand of God and he will exalt us in due time. The correct attitude is stated in Psalm 84 - " I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than to dwell in the tents of the wicked". The wicked in this case are those seeking the approval, praise and glory of men - how sad!

Consider in this regard Matt 7

And he taught them that false prophets are known by their fruits and that doing things outside the scriptures is called practicing lawlessness.
As I look at what is being taught in our schools and it is much of it is swill. Christ further reminded them that to do the "will of the Father" was required to enter the kingdom. One should be able to reason that the will of man is to be avoided. May we all be determined to do the will of the Father in heaven and build a house on the solid rock of Gods promises. There is no more appropriate passage in the scripture for todays post modern leaders than that which describes those who build on the rock - those who hear and do the sayings of Christ.

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October 2nd, 2012, 1:25 am #3

Consider Matt 6

Remember Jesus Christ taught as one having authority to both religious leaders and the common folk -

And he taught them all that all those persons who pray, give money or fast to be seen of men have their reward already, that is the acclaim of men. Is that what many of our intellectual leaders are doing ? It seems to me that todays communication media and reverence for advanced degrees have fostered an attitude for the acclaim of mankind.


Jesus taught giving ALMS from our hand to the poor: poor in that sense meant almost destitute. The poor box in the back of the synagogue was for the poor and the money box (called trumpets) were for the widows in the temple courts. Jesus warned about sounding trumpets or making a ritual out of giving which included blowing the wind instruments to stimulate unlawful giving to the rich.

This has to be fulfillment of prophecy. Even the "elect" or the Church will almost be seduced: all of the religionists will be seduced and take the MARK. The "beasts" in Revelation are the two-legged type. Beast or "Theiron" includes the "prophesying Muses" as the "worship team" of Abaddon or Apollyon. It literally means "A New Style of Song or Drama." Isn't that pretty clear.

Many "leaders" write books, give lectures, parade around campus and generally are held in esteem for these things. Yet the scripture says that we are to humble ourselves before the mighty hand of God and he will exalt us in due time. The correct attitude is stated in Psalm 84 - " I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than to dwell in the tents of the wicked". The wicked in this case are those seeking the approval, praise and glory of men - how sad!

They are in a daisy chain and know that they cannot get their books published unless they brown nose the agents of doom. The Jesuits as the pattern for witchery at LU was also the PATTERN for Adolph Hitlers "Gas and Burn" squad. They have the same opinion of themselves that Hitler had and are delusional because they crap on "that which is written for our learning." The Babylon Harlot deals in COMMERCE including SELLING you a degree in something no better then Phrenology at an extorted price. Selling the FREE WATER of the Word of Christ is not pretty BUT its in the Book: we just have to stand up and yell and maybe get hurt.

John calls all of the performers: rhetoricians, singers and instrument players" sorcerers who HAD deceived the world world. Jesus called them hypocrites as the Scribes and Pharisees. That includes the Pharisees who compose new doctrine SO THAT THEY CAN ESCAPE the doctrine of Christ. The Scribes whom Christ said lied about the Temple are those who WRITE or publish the new teachings of the Pharisees. Jesus said that the Scribes or doctors of the law "take away the key to knowledge."
Consider in this regard Matt 7

And he taught them that false prophets are known by their fruits and that doing things outside the scriptures is called practicing lawlessness.

Hoping not to go too far: the FRUITS Israel used for music IN their temple are the same FRUITS Amos warned about and the FRUITS of the Babylon Mother of Harlots.

As I look at what is being taught in our schools and it is much of it is swill. Christ further reminded them that to do the "will of the Father" was required to enter the kingdom. One should be able to reason that the will of man is to be avoided. May we all be determined to do the will of the Father in heaven and build a house on the solid rock of Gods promises. There is no more appropriate passage in the scripture for todays post modern leaders than that which describes those who build on the rock - those who hear and do the sayings of Christ.

Comments Welcome


It's sad but the godly spirits are few in the midst of those OF the World: Jesus did not pray for the World but for those He was sent to save. This is directly opposite to to the VIPER RACE who pray for and will be baptized with WIND and FIRE. I don't believe that normal, spiritual humanoids could pretend to have such a STRAIGHT face and lie because they think that they have "boiled the frogs" and no one will notice.







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October 2nd, 2012, 3:31 am #4

When once-Christian Bible Colleges become universities (universalists) theology replaces the Biblical text. Because Catholics play such a huge role in the theology of LU and others, it is important to realize that the "scholars"leap with all four feet on the latest books being circulated.

The Legacy of Henry Corbin

http://henrycorbinproject.blogspot.com/ ... ospel.html

Mrs. James A. Garfield told Mrs. Dickenson that Rigdon taught her father Latin and Greek.*** David Whitmer, who was so intimately acquainted with the early history of the church, testified: "Rigdon was a thorough biblical scholar, a man of fine education and a powerful orator."**** A writer, describing Rigdon while the church was at Nauvoo, said, "There is no divine in the West more learned in biblical literature and the history of the world than he."***** All this indicates that a knowledge of the earlier "Everlasting Gospel" was easily within Rigdon's reach
As Latter-day Saints we believe as all Christians do in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost (Articles of Faith 1). We believe that they are one in purpose and mission and that they are three separate divine beings.
Latter Day Saints: A Mormon Blog, "In 1997, the World­wide Church of God dropped both its objections to the doctrine of the Trinity and certain Pelagian tendencies and was accepted as a member of the National Association of Evangelicals.

This is the James A Garfield who came to Tennessee and pledged with Churches of Christ NOT to engage in the war: he went back to Bethany and collected his troups.

John Mark Hicks on Alexander Campbell

http://www.piney.com/Trinity.Hicks.Rochester.html

"Many Latter-day Saint Philosophers consider trinity to be a description of the relationship among the members of the Godhead.

"Initially, the social analogy might appear to be no better off than the egg analogy. No member of a family is itself a family; thus, we seem to be faced again with the suggestion that no member of the Trinity is God.

Though there are three distinct portions of the egg (the shell, the yolk and the egg white), the unity of God seems to be lost as each portion of the egg is something entirely different in composition, form, function, etc.

"B) Towards a Uniform Definition
John Hicks describes the revival of social trinitarianism as one of the most significant developments in contemporary theology. Along with this revival has come a certain amount of confusion concerning what exactly qualifies as a social model of the trinity.

In his lucid treatment of the issue, Cornelius Plantinga sets out the three conditions necessary for a theory to qualify as social and they bear repeating:

(1) The theory must have Father, Son, and Spirit as distinct centers of knowledge, will, love, and action. Since each of these capacities requires consciousness, it follows that, on this sort of theory, Father, Son, and Spirit would be viewed as distinct centers of consciousness or, in short, as persons in some full sense of that term.


"About the commencement of this [the thirteenth] century there were handed about in Italy several pretended prophecies of the famous Joachim, abbot of Sora in Calabria, whom the multitude revered as a person divinely inspired, and equal to the most illustrious prophets of ancient times. The greatest part of these predictions were contained in a certain book entitled, 'The Everlasting Gospel,' and which was also commonly called the Book of Joachim. This Joachim, whether a real or fictitious person we shall not pretend to determine, among many other future events, foretold the destruction of the Church of Rome, whose corruptions he censured with the greatest severity, and the promulgation of a new and more perfect gospel in the age of the Holy Ghost, by a set of poor and austere ministers, whom God was to raise up and employ for that purpose."

What animates the doctrine of the Eternal Gospel of Joachim de Flore (1145-1202), the celebrated founder of the Ordo florensis, is the idea of a development of humanity that is the continuous work of the Holy Spirit and the final end of which will be the reign of the Paraclete announced in the Gospel of John. The state of man at the end of this process realizes the perfect liberty of the Spirit which results from the love awakened by the Holy Spirit in the heart of man The development of the history of salvation by no means consists in the development of a principle immanent in history, progressing in a linear way according to laws that today we call historical causality. Far from that, the history of salvation is only realized by the active and continuous intervention of the Holy Spirit, a creative intervention that each time breaks anew the course imposed on things by the carnal will and worldly ambition."

Of Course, the Paraclete is named Jesus Christ the Righteous and He NOW reigns.



However, it is noted:

"The three Ages of which Joachim de Flore speaks [of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit] are not successive periods of historical time(and Berdiaev observes this in a profound remark...) ... the three Ages represent unities of existential time, interior time The succession of these Ages plays itself out in the interior of souls, in the mystery of each soul In historical time in fact these Ages coexist."

Spiritual Formation ignores Scripture which tells how Christ is formed in us and seeks to find that Mormon-Like Spiritual Live.
The Spirit OF Christ defined the future REST both inclusively and exclusively. In Isaiah 55 He gave the FREE word and told people NOT to use their food money to buy the Word. Didn't "Jesus pay it all?"

In Isaiah 58 He told us not to seek our own pleasure or even speak our own words: that would say that Christ had no more authority than the preacher.

Paul repeated those absolutes in Romans 14-Romans 15.

The Evangelist or Teacher is narrowly circumscribed in his authority: that is to teach the Word as it HAS BEEN TAUGHT.

Everyone else, says Paul is a PROSTITUTE: selling some human talent or charisma for real money.

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October 3rd, 2012, 5:34 pm #5

When once-Christian Bible Colleges become universities (universalists) theology replaces the Biblical text. Because Catholics play such a huge role in the theology of LU and others, it is important to realize that the "scholars"leap with all four feet on the latest books being circulated.

The Legacy of Henry Corbin

http://henrycorbinproject.blogspot.com/ ... ospel.html

Mrs. James A. Garfield told Mrs. Dickenson that Rigdon taught her father Latin and Greek.*** David Whitmer, who was so intimately acquainted with the early history of the church, testified: "Rigdon was a thorough biblical scholar, a man of fine education and a powerful orator."**** A writer, describing Rigdon while the church was at Nauvoo, said, "There is no divine in the West more learned in biblical literature and the history of the world than he."***** All this indicates that a knowledge of the earlier "Everlasting Gospel" was easily within Rigdon's reach
As Latter-day Saints we believe as all Christians do in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost (Articles of Faith 1). We believe that they are one in purpose and mission and that they are three separate divine beings.
Latter Day Saints: A Mormon Blog, "In 1997, the World­wide Church of God dropped both its objections to the doctrine of the Trinity and certain Pelagian tendencies and was accepted as a member of the National Association of Evangelicals.

This is the James A Garfield who came to Tennessee and pledged with Churches of Christ NOT to engage in the war: he went back to Bethany and collected his troups.

John Mark Hicks on Alexander Campbell

http://www.piney.com/Trinity.Hicks.Rochester.html

"Many Latter-day Saint Philosophers consider trinity to be a description of the relationship among the members of the Godhead.

"Initially, the social analogy might appear to be no better off than the egg analogy. No member of a family is itself a family; thus, we seem to be faced again with the suggestion that no member of the Trinity is God.

Though there are three distinct portions of the egg (the shell, the yolk and the egg white), the unity of God seems to be lost as each portion of the egg is something entirely different in composition, form, function, etc.

"B) Towards a Uniform Definition
John Hicks describes the revival of social trinitarianism as one of the most significant developments in contemporary theology. Along with this revival has come a certain amount of confusion concerning what exactly qualifies as a social model of the trinity.

In his lucid treatment of the issue, Cornelius Plantinga sets out the three conditions necessary for a theory to qualify as social and they bear repeating:

(1) The theory must have Father, Son, and Spirit as distinct centers of knowledge, will, love, and action. Since each of these capacities requires consciousness, it follows that, on this sort of theory, Father, Son, and Spirit would be viewed as distinct centers of consciousness or, in short, as persons in some full sense of that term.


"About the commencement of this [the thirteenth] century there were handed about in Italy several pretended prophecies of the famous Joachim, abbot of Sora in Calabria, whom the multitude revered as a person divinely inspired, and equal to the most illustrious prophets of ancient times. The greatest part of these predictions were contained in a certain book entitled, 'The Everlasting Gospel,' and which was also commonly called the Book of Joachim. This Joachim, whether a real or fictitious person we shall not pretend to determine, among many other future events, foretold the destruction of the Church of Rome, whose corruptions he censured with the greatest severity, and the promulgation of a new and more perfect gospel in the age of the Holy Ghost, by a set of poor and austere ministers, whom God was to raise up and employ for that purpose."

What animates the doctrine of the Eternal Gospel of Joachim de Flore (1145-1202), the celebrated founder of the Ordo florensis, is the idea of a development of humanity that is the continuous work of the Holy Spirit and the final end of which will be the reign of the Paraclete announced in the Gospel of John. The state of man at the end of this process realizes the perfect liberty of the Spirit which results from the love awakened by the Holy Spirit in the heart of man The development of the history of salvation by no means consists in the development of a principle immanent in history, progressing in a linear way according to laws that today we call historical causality. Far from that, the history of salvation is only realized by the active and continuous intervention of the Holy Spirit, a creative intervention that each time breaks anew the course imposed on things by the carnal will and worldly ambition."

Of Course, the Paraclete is named Jesus Christ the Righteous and He NOW reigns.



However, it is noted:

"The three Ages of which Joachim de Flore speaks [of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit] are not successive periods of historical time(and Berdiaev observes this in a profound remark...) ... the three Ages represent unities of existential time, interior time The succession of these Ages plays itself out in the interior of souls, in the mystery of each soul In historical time in fact these Ages coexist."

Spiritual Formation ignores Scripture which tells how Christ is formed in us and seeks to find that Mormon-Like Spiritual Live.
The Disciples of Christ sponsored "world history" treats of the FRACTURING of Churches of Christ. This is a foundation built on a lie because Churches of Christ under Campbell continued to refine "A Restoration of the Church of Christ" proposed by John Calvin.

http://www.piney.com/A.World.History.of ... ement.html

John Mark Hicks masked as representing Churches of Christ goes in accusing Campbell of Legalism and Patternism. How can you WRITE history when you refuse to ACKNOWLEDGE history of 2,000 years?

http://www.piney.com/Irenaeus.Holy.Spir ... V.III.html

Irenaeus Holy Spirit and Apostolic Preaching: 3. Now, that we may not suffer ought of this kind, we must needs hold the rule of the faith without deviation, 57 and do the commandments of God, believing in God and fearing Him as Lord and loving Him as Father. Now this doing is produced by faith: for Isaiah says: If ye believe not, neither shall ye understand. (Isa. vii. 9) And faith is produced by the truth; for faith rests on things that truly are. For in things that are, as they are, we believe; and believing in things that are, as they ever are, we keep firm our confidence in them. Since then faith is the perpetuation of our salvation, we must needs bestow much pains on the maintenance thereof, in order that we may have a true comprehension of the things that are. Now faith occasions this for us; even as the Elders, the disciples of the Apostles,

58 have handed down to us. First of all it bids us bear in mind that we have received baptism for the remission of sins, in the name of God the Father, and in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was incarnate and died and rose again, and in the Holy Spirit of God. And that this baptism is the seal of eternal life, and is the new birth unto God, that we should no longer be the sons of mortal men, but of the eternal and perpetual God; and that what is everlasting and continuing is made God; 59 and is over all things that are made, and all things are put under Him; and all the things that are put under Him are made His own; for God is not ruler and Lord over the things of another, but over His own, 60 and all things are God's; and therefore God is Almighty, and all things are of God.

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November 16th, 2012, 8:41 pm #6

When once-Christian Bible Colleges become universities (universalists) theology replaces the Biblical text. Because Catholics play such a huge role in the theology of LU and others, it is important to realize that the "scholars"leap with all four feet on the latest books being circulated.

The Legacy of Henry Corbin

http://henrycorbinproject.blogspot.com/ ... ospel.html

Mrs. James A. Garfield told Mrs. Dickenson that Rigdon taught her father Latin and Greek.*** David Whitmer, who was so intimately acquainted with the early history of the church, testified: "Rigdon was a thorough biblical scholar, a man of fine education and a powerful orator."**** A writer, describing Rigdon while the church was at Nauvoo, said, "There is no divine in the West more learned in biblical literature and the history of the world than he."***** All this indicates that a knowledge of the earlier "Everlasting Gospel" was easily within Rigdon's reach
As Latter-day Saints we believe as all Christians do in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost (Articles of Faith 1). We believe that they are one in purpose and mission and that they are three separate divine beings.
Latter Day Saints: A Mormon Blog, "In 1997, the World­wide Church of God dropped both its objections to the doctrine of the Trinity and certain Pelagian tendencies and was accepted as a member of the National Association of Evangelicals.

This is the James A Garfield who came to Tennessee and pledged with Churches of Christ NOT to engage in the war: he went back to Bethany and collected his troups.

John Mark Hicks on Alexander Campbell

http://www.piney.com/Trinity.Hicks.Rochester.html

"Many Latter-day Saint Philosophers consider trinity to be a description of the relationship among the members of the Godhead.

"Initially, the social analogy might appear to be no better off than the egg analogy. No member of a family is itself a family; thus, we seem to be faced again with the suggestion that no member of the Trinity is God.

Though there are three distinct portions of the egg (the shell, the yolk and the egg white), the unity of God seems to be lost as each portion of the egg is something entirely different in composition, form, function, etc.

"B) Towards a Uniform Definition
John Hicks describes the revival of social trinitarianism as one of the most significant developments in contemporary theology. Along with this revival has come a certain amount of confusion concerning what exactly qualifies as a social model of the trinity.

In his lucid treatment of the issue, Cornelius Plantinga sets out the three conditions necessary for a theory to qualify as social and they bear repeating:

(1) The theory must have Father, Son, and Spirit as distinct centers of knowledge, will, love, and action. Since each of these capacities requires consciousness, it follows that, on this sort of theory, Father, Son, and Spirit would be viewed as distinct centers of consciousness or, in short, as persons in some full sense of that term.


"About the commencement of this [the thirteenth] century there were handed about in Italy several pretended prophecies of the famous Joachim, abbot of Sora in Calabria, whom the multitude revered as a person divinely inspired, and equal to the most illustrious prophets of ancient times. The greatest part of these predictions were contained in a certain book entitled, 'The Everlasting Gospel,' and which was also commonly called the Book of Joachim. This Joachim, whether a real or fictitious person we shall not pretend to determine, among many other future events, foretold the destruction of the Church of Rome, whose corruptions he censured with the greatest severity, and the promulgation of a new and more perfect gospel in the age of the Holy Ghost, by a set of poor and austere ministers, whom God was to raise up and employ for that purpose."

What animates the doctrine of the Eternal Gospel of Joachim de Flore (1145-1202), the celebrated founder of the Ordo florensis, is the idea of a development of humanity that is the continuous work of the Holy Spirit and the final end of which will be the reign of the Paraclete announced in the Gospel of John. The state of man at the end of this process realizes the perfect liberty of the Spirit which results from the love awakened by the Holy Spirit in the heart of man The development of the history of salvation by no means consists in the development of a principle immanent in history, progressing in a linear way according to laws that today we call historical causality. Far from that, the history of salvation is only realized by the active and continuous intervention of the Holy Spirit, a creative intervention that each time breaks anew the course imposed on things by the carnal will and worldly ambition."

Of Course, the Paraclete is named Jesus Christ the Righteous and He NOW reigns.



However, it is noted:

"The three Ages of which Joachim de Flore speaks [of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit] are not successive periods of historical time(and Berdiaev observes this in a profound remark...) ... the three Ages represent unities of existential time, interior time The succession of these Ages plays itself out in the interior of souls, in the mystery of each soul In historical time in fact these Ages coexist."

Spiritual Formation ignores Scripture which tells how Christ is formed in us and seeks to find that Mormon-Like Spiritual Live.
History of TRINITARIAN BAPTISM

http://www.zimbio.com/Rick+Warren+and+S ... ism+Verses

33 AD - Day of Pentecost, 33 AD. The Apostle Peter introduces the New Covenant teaching on water baptism (Acts 2:38). In Apostolic teaching water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ was and is central to salvation. This is because the Apostles taught their converts ...Day of Pentecost, 33 AD. The Apostle Peter introduces the New Covenant teaching on water baptism (Acts 2:38). In Apostolic teaching water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ was and is central to salvation. This is because the Apostles taught their converts that water baptism in Jesus Name is where the blood of Jesus Christ is first applied to a convert. Real faith produces action. The Greek word for believe means more than to just believe that He existed, or that He died for us. It means to be fully persuaded concerning Him. If we truly believe in Him, we will put our trust in Him, follow His teachings, and obey His commandments. Baptism in His (Jesus') name is a command for all who believe in Him to obey.

100 AD - Now the subject I am trying to share is that baptism in Jesus name primarily. However in this bit of sharing I will touch on other related subjects. History has it that in AD 100 the titles Father, Son, Holy Ghost was first used and it was a Romish invention.

145 AD - Here is the first recorded use of a triad form of baptism, yet with Jesus (or Yeshua) still at it's center. Justin Martyr was leery of it, as he clearly shows in his writings, as the first recorded 'trinitarian' baptism mode on historical record, in the year 140 AD, still carried the 'NAME OF JESUS', as a carryover from the original Acts 2:38 mode. History is full of the statements that the most Christians in the first three centuries AD were Acts 2:38 Jesus Name adherents.

255 AD - AD 255, Early Catholics and others baptized in Jesus Name: Cyprian, an African Catholic bishop, like Justin Martyr, hated God's oneness Apostolics to such a degree that he wanted nothing in common with them. Therefore, he, like Justin Martyr, changed the formula for baptism. He took the name of the Lord Jesus Christ out of the Catholic's second immersion, and replaced it with the title Son. This is the first place in history where all three titles were actually used by the Catholics and as the majority of Protestants continue to maintain today. The majority of Christians still baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in those days.

325 AD - Furthermore, church history records that the accepted mode of baptism in the church was in Jesus' name until the Council of Nicea in 325 AD (long after the apostles had died). In baptism, we take upon ourselves the name of the One who died for us. The church is called the Bride of Christ, and when we are baptized, we take on the name of our husband (Jesus Christ). Not once in the word of God was anyone ever recorded to be dipped or baptized into the titles "of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost! From this time forward any baptism but the trinitarian one is outlawed by many of the Catholics, therefore by Rome as well.

381 AD - 381 AD, The Ecumenical Council of Constantinople comes against Oneness believers. Montanists were not only had the gifts of the Spirit, but also baptized in Jesus' Name. Schaff speaking of this council said they: Rejected the baptism of those, "who baptized with only one immersion, the Sabellians and the Montanists. Probably because they did not at that time use the [so-called] orthodox [Trinitarian] baptismal formula." From that time forward persecution, confiscation or desecration of all others who held a different opinion than them (the Catholics) began in earnest.
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