The Progressive-Liberal 'COC' Pattern: King David's Music, Dance, Burnt Offerings

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April 11th, 2015, 5:06 pm #11

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]... and Nudity.

There is NOTHING from the New Testament that the change agents operating in the brotherhood to infiltrate, destroy and divide the New Testament church can offer.

What King David did had nothing to do with a congregational assembly. Whatever he did was personal, i.e., including his nudity and dancing, whether or not he considered his "services" worship, worshipful or acceptable to God.

Read and study the following few passages that deal not with "Acts of the Apostles" of the Christian era, but with "Acts of King David" under the Mosaic regime:
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  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And it came to pass as they came, when David was returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, that the women came out of all cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet king Saul, with tabrets, with joy, and with instruments of musick.[/color] (I Samuel 18:6)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And David spake to the chief of the Levites to appoint their brethren to be the singers with instruments of musick, psalteries and harps and cymbals, sounding, by lifting up the voice with joy.[/color] (I Chron. 15:16)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times][4] [Ye] That lie upon beds of ivory, and stretch themselves upon their couches, and eat the lambs out of the flock, and the calves out of the midst of the stall;
    [5] That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of musick, like David;
    [6] That drink wine in bowls, and anoint themselves with the chief ointments:
    [/color] (Amos 6)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And the servants of Achish said unto him, Is not this David the king of the land? did they not sing one to another of him in dances, saying, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands?[/color] (I Sam. 21:11)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]Is not this David, of whom they sang one to another in dances, saying, Saul slew his thousands, and David his ten thousands?[/color] (I Sam. 29:5)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.[/color] (II Sam. 6:14)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.[/color] (II Sam. 6:16)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And they brought in the ark of the LORD, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD.[/color] (II Sam. 6:17)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself![/color] (II Sam. 6:20)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And it came to pass, as the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal the daughter of Saul looking out at a window saw king David dancing and playing: and she despised him in her heart.[/color] (I Chron. 15:29)</li>
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Facts about David of the old Mosaic regime:

-- An inventor of musical instruments,
-- A musical lover,
-- His practices were personal;
-- His practices had nothing to do with the assembly of saints;
-- His dealings with the Levites...
-- The ark of the covenant,
-- His dancing prowess/skills--"danced before the Lord";
-- His nudity "in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants"
-- His offer of burnt offerings and peace offerings...

The above is self-explanatory.

Beware!!! The progressive and liberal change agents will pick and choose which of David's practices and skills are applicable to New Testament Christianity!!!

Prepare ye! It may be "dancing before the Lord" next, if not already. But, of course, NOT "burnt offerings."[/color]
Because of musical idolatry God abandoned Israel to "worship the starry host." That includes lucifer and Abaddon-Apollon. The Jews burned infants to the beat of musical instruments, the warriors threatened sexual assaults and the prostitutes attracted their "congregates". Burning goats is the prophetic type of burning all craftsmen: singers, instrument players, actors, grinders (prostitutes).

The instruments in Revelation were never used IN a holy place: playing the harp inside of the holy place would have gotten David executed by the command of God. Musicians claim to stand in the holy place replacing Jesus as the ONLY SPIRITUAL MEDIATOR: He doesn't bring musicians into God's presence.

I just watched a shoot out between a Christian Family Band members and between the police. I told you that if they will lie, cheat and steal they WILL do literal murder as they attempt to do spiritual execution.

David's praise Word is the LUCIFER message of thinking you are IN THE FIRMAMENT. Bless your heart, the firmament is not a glass sphere!!



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April 11th, 2015, 5:46 pm #12

God Sings!


Zephaniah 3:17 (NIV)

The Lord your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves.
He will take great delight in you;
in his love he will no longer rebuke you,
but will rejoice over you with singing.”


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God Used Them Anyway


· Moses stuttered.

· David's armor didn't fit.

· John Mark was rejected by Paul.

· Timothy had ulcers.

· Hosea's wife was a prostitute.

· Amos' only training was in the school of fig-tree pruning.

· Jacob was a pathological liar.

· David had an affair.

· Solomon was too rich.

· Abraham was too old.

· David was too young.

· Peter was afraid of death.

· Lazarus was dead.

· John was self-righteous.

· Naomi was a widow.

· Paul was a murderer.

· So was Moses.

· Jonah ran from God.

· Miriam was a gossip.

· Gideon and Thomas both doubted.

· Jeremiah was depressed and suicidal.

· Elijah was burned out.

· John the Baptist was a loudmouth.

· Martha was a worry-wart.

· Mary was lazy.

· Samson had long hair.

· Noah got drunk.

· Did I mention that Moses had a short fuse?

· So did Peter, Paul--well, lots of folks did.

https://sermons.logos.com/submissions/1 ... ons/120221
The small number of ladies who have been enticed to train as preachers and "flood" themselves into churches learn how to ignore the Scripture just like their feminists professors.

http://www.piney.com/Naomi.Walters.Zephaniah.3.html

People never have any need to understand what the Spirit OF Christ has to say as He defines HIS REST both inclusively and exclusively in the prophets. HE rejoices but HE does not sing, dance, play instruments and make himself vile--the praise concept.

God doesn't rejoice over His people until they RECEIVE INSTRUCTION and He has put down the podiums and "collectors of shekals" as Paul in 1 Corinthians 1 explains Isaiah 33.

Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where is the receiver (shaqal)? where is he that counted the towers? Isaiah 33: 18

Receiver is: Shaqal (h8254) shaw-kal'; a prim. root; to suspend or poise (espec. in trade): - pay, receive (-r), spend, * throughly, weigh.

And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. Zec.11:12


If YOU think it good to weigh out shaqals then THAT is what God wants you to do: you are Purpose Driven. We know that the Jewish clergy took FROM the poor and widows claiming that they were really "missionaries."

Matt. 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Matt. 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Matt. 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Matt. 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: [hymns] therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Matt. 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.


The forty day prayers is an attempt to force the widows who sold their heritage to accept that THEIR previous well-defined agenda is from "a" spirit person. WOE is a word used by the Lamb coming with a rod of IRON. That's why people lust to keep Jesus in the cradle.
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April 11th, 2015, 8:21 pm #13

Because of musical idolatry God abandoned Israel to "worship the starry host." That includes lucifer and Abaddon-Apollon. The Jews burned infants to the beat of musical instruments, the warriors threatened sexual assaults and the prostitutes attracted their "congregates". Burning goats is the prophetic type of burning all craftsmen: singers, instrument players, actors, grinders (prostitutes).

The instruments in Revelation were never used IN a holy place: playing the harp inside of the holy place would have gotten David executed by the command of God. Musicians claim to stand in the holy place replacing Jesus as the ONLY SPIRITUAL MEDIATOR: He doesn't bring musicians into God's presence.

I just watched a shoot out between a Christian Family Band members and between the police. I told you that if they will lie, cheat and steal they WILL do literal murder as they attempt to do spiritual execution.

David's praise Word is the LUCIFER message of thinking you are IN THE FIRMAMENT. Bless your heart, the firmament is not a glass sphere!!



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Ken said, 'Donnie enjoys "congregational singing" but he will tell you that there is no command for it.'


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Ken, I can feel the elephant in the room. Today is Donnie's "decision day" on "congregational singing". Am I right? I have a nose for these situations.
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April 12th, 2015, 12:08 am #14

The issue is, is there a command, example, remote inference, hint or hallucination about God calling the godly into assembly for congregational singing with or without instruments."

You can probably get by with singing "four-part-Fanny" but you cannot get by with lying to God, about God or the sheep you want to feed YOU.

The one-piece pattern for the only directly commanded and exampled assemble ONCE A WEEK is to conduct a School of Christ. A Christian is a disciple and a disciple is a student and the ONLY text is the Prophets and Apostles. Disciples of Christ do not attend worship services performed by others IF you pay them a wage.

Jesus guaranteed that you CANNOT attend a religious OBSERVATION with Jesus because He said and guaranteed that "the kingdom does not come with observation." You don't get a choice.

http://www.piney.com/Luke.17.Kingdom.No ... ation.html

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


WORSHIP is also IN the SPIRIT (Mind) and INSIDE of you. Giving attendance to the WORD is defined as the only WORSHIP concept in the wilderness and in the historic church.

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April 12th, 2015, 12:10 am #15

These are also the signs of death because of a lack of the water of the Word. The CAUSE was the rich ignoring the word in favor of wine, women and instrumental music. (Amos 5). The MARK would be that the singing in the holy places would turn to HOWLING (CCM) Amos 8
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April 12th, 2015, 12:13 am #16

Ken said, 'Donnie enjoys "congregational singing" but he will tell you that there is no command for it.'


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Ken, I can feel the elephant in the room. Today is Donnie's "decision day" on "congregational singing". Am I right? I have a nose for these situations.
So, if there is no command for congregational singing, yet worshipers readily do it without feeling guilty or the need to repent, then it is not sinful to sing hymns. In that case, there doesn't seem to be any real purpose in perpetuating arguments about whether we should speak hymns or sing them...unless...those who perpetuate such arguments have nothing else better to do with their lives.
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April 12th, 2015, 3:53 am #17

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]... and Nudity.

There is NOTHING from the New Testament that the change agents operating in the brotherhood to infiltrate, destroy and divide the New Testament church can offer.

What King David did had nothing to do with a congregational assembly. Whatever he did was personal, i.e., including his nudity and dancing, whether or not he considered his "services" worship, worshipful or acceptable to God.

Read and study the following few passages that deal not with "Acts of the Apostles" of the Christian era, but with "Acts of King David" under the Mosaic regime:
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  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And it came to pass as they came, when David was returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, that the women came out of all cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet king Saul, with tabrets, with joy, and with instruments of musick.[/color] (I Samuel 18:6)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And David spake to the chief of the Levites to appoint their brethren to be the singers with instruments of musick, psalteries and harps and cymbals, sounding, by lifting up the voice with joy.[/color] (I Chron. 15:16)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times][4] [Ye] That lie upon beds of ivory, and stretch themselves upon their couches, and eat the lambs out of the flock, and the calves out of the midst of the stall;
    [5] That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of musick, like David;
    [6] That drink wine in bowls, and anoint themselves with the chief ointments:
    [/color] (Amos 6)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And the servants of Achish said unto him, Is not this David the king of the land? did they not sing one to another of him in dances, saying, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands?[/color] (I Sam. 21:11)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]Is not this David, of whom they sang one to another in dances, saying, Saul slew his thousands, and David his ten thousands?[/color] (I Sam. 29:5)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.[/color] (II Sam. 6:14)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.[/color] (II Sam. 6:16)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And they brought in the ark of the LORD, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD.[/color] (II Sam. 6:17)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself![/color] (II Sam. 6:20)

    </li>
  • [color=#FF0000" size="3" face="times]And it came to pass, as the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal the daughter of Saul looking out at a window saw king David dancing and playing: and she despised him in her heart.[/color] (I Chron. 15:29)</li>
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Facts about David of the old Mosaic regime:

-- An inventor of musical instruments,
-- A musical lover,
-- His practices were personal;
-- His practices had nothing to do with the assembly of saints;
-- His dealings with the Levites...
-- The ark of the covenant,
-- His dancing prowess/skills--"danced before the Lord";
-- His nudity "in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants"
-- His offer of burnt offerings and peace offerings...

The above is self-explanatory.

Beware!!! The progressive and liberal change agents will pick and choose which of David's practices and skills are applicable to New Testament Christianity!!!

Prepare ye! It may be "dancing before the Lord" next, if not already. But, of course, NOT "burnt offerings."[/color]
A disciple who brings his band to Einstein's Final Solution shall be deemed a mad man: that's why God defined a ONE PIECE PATTERN defined by those with an IQ as long as their shoelace as a SCHOOL off limit to all but DISCIPLES. You get no preference: if you add any more legalistic pieces to the pattern Jesus just won't show up because HE thinks that HE is the only master teacher. It turns out that you cannot get by with replacing "that which is written for our learning" with silly praise songs performed for hire: Paul and the Greeks had an ugly word for people who sell any of their body parts. God sends strong delusions because you do NOT love the truth and you MUST believe your own lie. Lying Wonders are religious operations claiming that your rhetoric, singing, playing instruments and acting which you CLAIM are from God or the sane world.

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April 12th, 2015, 1:08 pm #18


Some have arrived at this junction..."God did not say not to." Wow!
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April 12th, 2015, 4:53 pm #19

LABEL ON A BOX

"This box contains an atomic shell! Remove carefully"!

Little Jimmy Jump up opines: "It does not say NOT to hit the little pointy thing with a hammer."

Little Jimmy-bless his heart--is absolutely right. There is no LAW about what to do AFTER we have removed the shell. So, he fleeces all of the widows in the company to procure him a Minister of Hammering.

A disciple knows that God is God and he is not: a disciple cannot possibly become a degreed Sower of Discord with a minor in "How to do a legalistic end run around the word.

The Word is the LOGOS: the Logos is God's Regulative or Governing principle revealed by Jesus and validated by his death and resurrection.

A Regulative principle can NEVER be a PEOPLE.

The LOGOS--by absolute definition validated by contemporaneous definitions--HATH SAID 'THOU SHALT NOT' amend the Word by Rhetoric (sermonizing, jokes, introductions, personal experiences-real or blown up-using poetry, songs, playing instruments, dancing (music) or acting which is the jumpety CAPPELLA goat parable.

ANYTHING you can invent as ACTS OF WORSHIP (Legalism-self-will) is OUTLAWED by the meaning of the LOGOS. Load this page:

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/mor ... s0#lexicon

Click LSJ to get the fuller list of USES.

The do a search for "opp" which means OPPOSITE anything anyone does today beyond doing the act of READING by reading verse 3d which the preacher will ignore.

"Opp" means that whatever is listed is OPPOSITE and CONTRADICTS the meaning of the LOGOS or WORD. CHRIST in Isaiah 8 says that if you don't SPEAK the written text THERE IS NO LIGHT IN YOU. Of course, being DIMMED DOWN won't hinder you from getting to be Senior Pastor or the Authoritative Teacher as my old discorder claims. That with the Muses lets you "stand in the holy place claiming to be God." THAT will get you a MEGA salary.


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Just Layman
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April 12th, 2015, 6:36 pm #20


Ken, clearly the COC disagrees with you on singing. Do you know of a local Church of Christ that does not sing?
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