The Mark of the Beast

The Mark of the Beast

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August 15th, 2011, 4:33 am #1

Theologians have given themselves permission to ignore the text and make up their own funny buffoonish sermons. Jesus knew that: He said that the doctors of the Law take away the key to knowledge. That is when God sends strong delusions so that he and his paying audience BRAND with The Mark of the Beast.

http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.html


Jeremiah was inspired by the Spirit of Christ.
He said that to say that God said something when God did not say it is to despise or blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

The Direct Command is to build the church on the foundation of the Prophets (by Christ) and the prophecies made more certain by Jesus of Nazareth.

All of the prophets repudiate the Jewish Monarchy as robbers and parasites: the Scribes had a lying pen and Jesus quoted Ezekiel 33 to NAME preachers, singers and instruments as hypocrites. Yes, you can have all of the Phds in the world and never be allowed to grasp the fatal fall from grace caused by musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. If you pay for the Free water of the Word you are violating the command of Christ in Isaiah 55.

http://www.piney.com/Instrumental.Music ... ament.html

Anyone who claims that God commanded anyone to use instrumental music in a worship setting is:

Terminally ignorant
Or terminally evil.

Not even Judas--whose bag was for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments--knew that he was indwelled by Satan -- the Son of Perdition -- until Jesus gave him the SOP mark which is the rood meaning of PSALLO.

In all of the Bible and contemporaneoud accounts--beginning with clay tablets--the fall into musical idolatry meant that you have fallen and cannot get up.
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Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:32 pm

September 14th, 2011, 6:00 pm #2

The Kingdom of God does not come with Observations: this means religious "worship" services where Christ commanded an Educational Service. Only legalists believe that they can WORK hard enough with music being very works intensive to bring the KINGDOM to their time and place.

http://www.piney.com/Luke.17.Kingdom.No ... ation.html

In fact Violent men take the Kingdom by VIOLENT means: one of those is the use of music to "make the lambs dumb before the slaughter." Below, Rick will tell you how to make YOUR lambs dumb before the slaughter.

http://www.piney.com/Matthew.11.Kingdom ... lence.html

Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman in New Wineskins reviewed by Jay Guin boast about how they deliberately deceived the youth by exposing them to meetings where talented musical groups performed. This was very clear when the "movement" determined to "leave the old folks behind."

Rick says that they DELIVERATELY discipled them to leave our MOVEMENT but NOT the kingdom.
Strange since Bible readers understand that the Kingdom of God does NOT come with Religious Observations or "worship services." The Church of Christ is built on the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles and the direct command was to TEACH that which is written for our learning.

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Racnor
Racnor

December 4th, 2011, 8:03 pm #3

Theologians have given themselves permission to ignore the text and make up their own funny buffoonish sermons. Jesus knew that: He said that the doctors of the Law take away the key to knowledge. That is when God sends strong delusions so that he and his paying audience BRAND with The Mark of the Beast.

http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.html


Jeremiah was inspired by the Spirit of Christ.
He said that to say that God said something when God did not say it is to despise or blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

The Direct Command is to build the church on the foundation of the Prophets (by Christ) and the prophecies made more certain by Jesus of Nazareth.

All of the prophets repudiate the Jewish Monarchy as robbers and parasites: the Scribes had a lying pen and Jesus quoted Ezekiel 33 to NAME preachers, singers and instruments as hypocrites. Yes, you can have all of the Phds in the world and never be allowed to grasp the fatal fall from grace caused by musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. If you pay for the Free water of the Word you are violating the command of Christ in Isaiah 55.

http://www.piney.com/Instrumental.Music ... ament.html

Anyone who claims that God commanded anyone to use instrumental music in a worship setting is:

Terminally ignorant
Or terminally evil.

Not even Judas--whose bag was for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments--knew that he was indwelled by Satan -- the Son of Perdition -- until Jesus gave him the SOP mark which is the rood meaning of PSALLO.

In all of the Bible and contemporaneoud accounts--beginning with clay tablets--the fall into musical idolatry meant that you have fallen and cannot get up.
Anyone who claims that God commanded anyone to use instrumental music in a worship setting is:

Terminally ignorant
Or terminally evil.

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Ken, if anyone should be sweating bullets, I think it would be you. God did not condemn instruments, YOU did. JMHO.
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December 7th, 2011, 2:41 am #4

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Racnor,

There is a marked distinction between: (1) what God commanded and (2) what God did not condemn.

(1) There is not a single command in the entire Holy Scripture for God's followers to worship Him with the operation of mechanical music.

(2) There is not a single condemnation of the worship of the Virgin Mary as the "Mother of God." Do you worship and pray to the Virgin Mary?[/color]
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Ray
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December 11th, 2011, 1:36 pm #5

Anyone who claims that God commanded anyone to use instrumental music in a worship setting is:

Terminally ignorant
Or terminally evil.

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Ken, if anyone should be sweating bullets, I think it would be you. God did not condemn instruments, YOU did. JMHO.
Good point, Racnor. Which is blasphemy? To quote scripture on what God has commanded and allowed, or to attribute to evil what comes from God?

Jesus answered that question for us.
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December 13th, 2011, 4:32 am #6


The instrumentalists use the Levites who were Jacob-cursed and under the king and commanders of the army to execute anyone who came near or into any so-called holy place. Even a Levite who went into a holy place with or without an instrument would be executed. The "parable" or prophetic type is that if instrumentalists come into the holy places they prove that as God promised them "I will not pass by again" and he left them to starve for the water of the Word. Jesus said that the lake of fire is prepared for those who refuse to "feed" the least member. He said My words are SPIRIT and LIFE. Your songs and sermons are "twinkys" and blubber-burgers.

They were commanded to stand in ranks and guard the NOT commanded animal sacrifices.

Christ in the prophets says that God did not command ANYTHING under the pagan monarchy.

Therefore, anyone who uses the Levites as their patternism tells the Spirit OF Christ that He is a liar.

That is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Those who have blasphemed may not know that their musical rituals are the lying wonders of those God sent strong delusions. They have no trouble stealing the church house of widows.

http://www.piney.com/Blasphemy.Against. ... pirit.html

Christ spoke ONLY through the prophets. Jesus made those prophecies more certain.
The church is built (educated) on the Prophets and Apostles with Christ being the underlayment for both. Peter says you cannot "further expound" and that excludes music or sorcery.

If you think that instruments have a role when Jesus comes to teach when the elders teach that which has been taught, then you do not and probably cannot ever grasp that Jesus came into the world to save lost spirits. His MARK for easy identification is that He is the WORD of God and never the song. You don't "sell" it you "tell" it and having spoken move on to find more lost spirits: these He translates into a heavenly kingdom so that the Devil cannot get into their "worship."

Those who ADD what Christ has NOT commanded are Scribes or Pharisees: Jesus calls them hypocrites. This necessarily fulfils the Prophecy by the Spirit OF (preposition) Christ. In Ezekiel 33 He puts the MARK of entertainment preachers, singers and instrument players. He gives both the beautiful songs and talented instruments a mark of 0. That fits Pauls quantifying the "tongues" versue Words.

"Cain" is from a "musical note" so please don't take the mark.

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Phil Starnes
Phil Starnes

December 13th, 2011, 7:40 pm #7

2 Samuel 6:5: And David and all the house of
Israel were making merry before the LORD, with songs and lyres and
harps and tambourines and castanets and cymbals.


2 Samuel 6:15:
So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting and with the sound of the horn.

1 Kings 10:12:
And the king made of the almug wood supports for the house of the LORD and for the kings house, also lyres and harps for the singers. No such almug wood has come or been seen to this day.


1 Chronicles 13:8:
And David and all Israel were rejoicing before God with all their might, with song and lyres and harps and tambourines and cymbals and trumpets.

1 Chronicles 15:16:
David also commanded the chiefs of the Levites to appoint their brothers as the singers who should play loudly on musical instruments, on harps and lyres and cymbals, to raise sounds of joy.

1 Chronicles 15:21:
but Mattithiah, Eliphelehu, Mikneiah, Obed-edom, Jeiel, and Azaziah were to lead with lyres according to the Sheminith.

1 Chronicles 15:28:
So all Israel brought up the ark of the covenant of the LORD with shouting, to the sound of the horn, trumpets, and cymbals, and made loud music on harps and lyres.

1 Chronicles 25:1:
David and the chiefs of the service also set apart for the service the sons of Asaph, and of Heman, and of Jeduthun, who prophesied with lyres, with harps, and with cymbals.

2 Chronicles 29:25:
And he stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, harps, and lyres, according to the commandment of David and of Gad the kings seer and of Nathan the prophet, for the commandment was from the LORD through his prophets.

Psalm 33:2:
Give thanks to the LORD with the lyre;
make melody to him with the harp of ten strings!

Psalm 149:3:
Let them praise his name with dancing,
making melody to him with tambourine and lyre!
Psalm 81:2:
Raise a song; sound the tambourine,
the sweet lyre with the harp.

Revelation 5:8:
And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

Revelation 15:2:
And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fireand also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.

Mark 7:6b-8:
"'This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men."
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December 13th, 2011, 9:41 pm #8

If you read First Samuel you will discover that the demand for a king was the TRIP POINT for God to carry out the penalty for musical idolatry at Mount Sinai.

http://www.piney.com/First-Samuel-Eight.html

The indictment against music in any form when we are to assemble to teach the word of Christ without further expounding meaning to add "i think so" or maybe Grace gonna cover up the smell I make.

The problem in Amos and Isaiah was that the rituals caused the common people to hunger and thirst for the word. These proof texts is the PATTERNISM which does not love the Word of Christ in the prophets and apostles. In fact Christ in the prophets warned about the "lying pen of the Scribes" writing about the temple because neither kingdom, king, temple, animal slaughter or instruments were commanded: if you obey the command and BUILD or educate the church on the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles both as the word of Christ made more certain by Jesus.

2 Samuel 6:5:
And David and all the house of Israel were making merry before the LORD, with songs and lyres and harps and tambourines and castanets and cymbals.


David rose up to PLAY identical to Israel's rising up to play in musical idolatry.


http://www.piney.com/MuSinai.html





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December 14th, 2011, 1:32 am #9

Why shouldn't the MASSES of people WAGED to traffic the Free Water of the Word not be willing to lie to you JUST as the Levites lied to them? Even those who have reached the highest level of incompetence use the SAME verses out of context to make the Word be turned into a lie; doctors of the Law "take away the key to knowledge." That is their job; that is what they do. The joke is that those who are lying by building on the PATTERNISM foundation of the Levites are themselves called liars by Christ in the prophets.



This was the Ephod David was wearing: all of the priestly garments were patterned after women's dress because the Levites and David "performed the roles of women."



If you starve people for the WORD (Amos and Isaiah) Jesus means that you withhold His Word which is Spirit and Life, Jesus consignes you to be cast alive into the Lake of fire along with the musical misleaders called soothsayers or sorcerers. David's musical prophesying means SOOTHSAYING.

I don't expect those who have had the trick turned on them will ever respond: on another thread you can quote the bible and even the "conservatives" pretend that they can neither hear or read Christ's repudiation of anything beyond assembling A School of Christ (the Campbell's Restoration Purpose) which the "located missionaries" quickly hid from the people.
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December 14th, 2011, 4:58 pm #10

Theologians have given themselves permission to ignore the text and make up their own funny buffoonish sermons. Jesus knew that: He said that the doctors of the Law take away the key to knowledge. That is when God sends strong delusions so that he and his paying audience BRAND with The Mark of the Beast.

http://www.piney.com/The.Mark.of.The.Beast.html


Jeremiah was inspired by the Spirit of Christ.
He said that to say that God said something when God did not say it is to despise or blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

The Direct Command is to build the church on the foundation of the Prophets (by Christ) and the prophecies made more certain by Jesus of Nazareth.

All of the prophets repudiate the Jewish Monarchy as robbers and parasites: the Scribes had a lying pen and Jesus quoted Ezekiel 33 to NAME preachers, singers and instruments as hypocrites. Yes, you can have all of the Phds in the world and never be allowed to grasp the fatal fall from grace caused by musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. If you pay for the Free water of the Word you are violating the command of Christ in Isaiah 55.

http://www.piney.com/Instrumental.Music ... ament.html

Anyone who claims that God commanded anyone to use instrumental music in a worship setting is:

Terminally ignorant
Or terminally evil.

Not even Judas--whose bag was for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments--knew that he was indwelled by Satan -- the Son of Perdition -- until Jesus gave him the SOP mark which is the rood meaning of PSALLO.

In all of the Bible and contemporaneoud accounts--beginning with clay tablets--the fall into musical idolatry meant that you have fallen and cannot get up.
While fighting over MUSIC in the School of Christ and refusing to FEED the little ones with the bread and water of the WORD evil people ENLIST to be "cast into the lake of fire." How much better to read and meditate on the REST OF THE STORY which is the Direct Command, approved example and ONLY inference for those who CAN grasp that Jesus died to give us REST from the laded burdens (arousal songs) burden laders (an extra tax NOT in time of war." So, believing that the duty is cast bread upon the waters with no expectation that the silver smiths CAN hear, here is some thoughts prompted by i Kings 10:12

But, if Solomon violated the DIRECT COMMANDS for the kings to whom God abandoned Israel, why not look as some free water of the word (Isaiah 55).

Deuteronomy 17:16 But he shall NOT multiply horses to himself,
<font color="#FFFFFF">....
nor cause the people to return to Egypt,
....to the end that he should multiply horses
:
....forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you,
....Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Deuteronomy 17:17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself,
....that his heart turn not away:
....neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Deuteronomy 17:18 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of HIS kingdom, t
....hat he shall write him a copy of this law in a book
....out of that which is before the priests the Levites:
Deuteronomy 17:19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life:
....that he may learn to fear the LORD his God,
....to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them:
Deuteronomy 17:20 That his heart be not lifted up above his brethren,
....and that he turn not aside from the commandment,
....to the right hand, or to the left: to the end that he may prolong
....his days in HIS kingdom, he, and his children,
....in the midst of Israel.


There is no command for "musical instruments" or musicians in the Law of Moses. Therefore, Solomon violated all of the direct commandments including claiming that HE sat on GOD'S THRONE.

1Kings 10:26 And Solomon gathered together
....chariots and horsemen: a
....nd he had a thousand and four hundred chariots,
....and twelve thousand horsemen,
....whom he bestowed in the cities for chariots,
....and with the king at Jerusalem.


AND YET THIS IS ANOTHER PART OF THE PATTERNISM OF THOSE WHO ARE PURPOSE DRIVEN TO SILENCE THE VOICE OF THE VICTIM.

1 Kings 10:12: And the king made of the almug wood supports for the house of the LORD and for the kings house, also lyres and harps for the singers. No such almug wood has come or been seen to this day.

God promised David a TENT
But, Solomon built God a HOUSE
But, God does not live in houses built by human hands NOR is He worshipped by the works of human hands (Acts 7)
Solomon spent more time on shrines for his PAGAN wives than on God.

So ALL of the musical discords lift proof texts proving that they do not know nor care that their patternists violated God's direct commands.

Adam Clark and other notes on Amos:

http://www.piney.com/Music/MuClarkAmos.html
As the trumpets were to be blown by the priests only, the sons of Aaron,
there were only two, because there were only two such persons to use them at this time, Eleazar and Ithamar.

In the time of Joshua there were seven trumpets used by the priests, but these were made, according to our text, of rams' horns, Josh. vi. 4.

In the time of Solomon, when the priests had greatly increased, there were 120 priests sounding with trumpets, 2 Chron. v. 12.

Solomon's wives brought ten thousand harps from Egypt."


Here Solomon CLAIMS that he saton the THRONE OF JEHOVAH:

1Chronicles 29:23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the LORD
....as king instead of David his father, and prospered;
....and all Israel obeyed him.
2Chronicles 9:8 Blessed be the LORD thy God,
....which delighted in thee to set thee on HIS throne<b>,
....to be king for the LORD thy God:
.... because thy God loved Israel, to establish them for ever,
....therefore made he THE king over them, to do judgment and justice
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However the Spirit OF Christ spoke through the prophets to repudiate the Scribes and Pharisees.

Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, are these. Jeremiah 7:4

Jeremiah 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?
Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken:
lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?


Cyril of Alexandria, Commentary on John,

http://www.piney.com/Cyril.Alexandria.Gospel.John.html

That the Pharisees puffed up unto strange boasting,

were wont to pretend that the Divine Word was with them and in them,
and therefore foolishly affirmed that they had advanced to marvellous wisdom,
the Spirit Itself will testify, since Christ says by the Prophet Jeremiah unto them,
How do ye say, WE are wise, and the word of the Lord is with us?
For nought to the scribes became their lying pen;
the wise men were ashamed, were dismayed and taken;
what wisdom is in them? because they rejected the word of the Lord.

For how are they not taken rejecting the Living and Hypostatic Word of God, receiving not the faith to Him-ward, but dishonouring the Impress of God the Father, and refusing to behold His most true Form (so to say) through His God-befitting Authority and Power?


IF SATAN HAS THE CHURCH UNDER ATTACK AND AFFLICTION, HOW BETTERY CARRY IT OUT? My duty is not to think that most will hear it: that is why I obey the command and "Speak to MYSELF."

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