The House Promised to David is the Ekklesia or Church of Christ

The House Promised to David is the Ekklesia or Church of Christ

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January 8th, 2013, 3:31 am #1

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

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January 8th, 2013, 5:01 am #2

Playing a harp is not worship.....indeed and agreed.
Neither is sitting behind a computer copying and pasting unScriptural false notions.

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January 8th, 2013, 2:04 pm #3

How does Dave know that Ken's "notions" are false? Just because Dave "thinks" Ken pastes allegedly false notions does NOT make them false. Dave has much to learn about delivering strong evidence and proof to support his otherwise vaporous "arguments."
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January 14th, 2013, 12:13 am #4

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

Preachers get a bit hysterical when their INSTITUTE does not grow to be be BIGGEST. If you have a PROGRAM-DIRECTED institution with loads of hired hands to REPLACE the vocational elders, deacons and women who do most of the work as MOTHERS, it is crippled, hobbled and simply CANNOT be anything close to being an ekklesia or a church of Christ.

DON'T PANIC: If you speak the WORD you CANNOT be popular. If you speak the WORD you will be despised and rejected by MOST. If you NUMBERS won't add up: you may be doing something which is risky and right. Never take a talley: David did that and could never come before God again.

It is a fact and maybe a purpose that MEGA-churches in the TOWNS suck up all of the money and members from the local congregations organized to be LEAVEN in their area.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html



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January 14th, 2013, 9:55 pm #5

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

Any one who can read the Bible stands amazed that those whom John Bamfort Parks calls "emotionally or sexually abnormal" were able to--as they boast--infiltrate and divert churches of Christ which historically have been WORD OF GOD CENTERED.

The lyrical preaching style called Rhetoric--THE meaning of the word HYPOCRITE--has historically been noted to be a fall into an effeminate persona. Rhetoricians or actors naturally WANT to be someone else.

Marcus in Reciting the Book: 11 Hence, I argue first that the representation of the epic recital is highly dependent upon the representation of other public performances and, second, that epic's social image is attacked and reclaimed via its public performance.

In fact, behind the criticisms of the epic recital often lie issues about the performance of gender and social status.

In that regard, epic's position is parallel to that of rhetoric. Beginning with Aristotle's Rhetorica (1404a), critics of rhetorical performance have ascribed to lively delivery the same effect as that of acting. There is a persistent association between theatrics, bad rhetoric and effeminacy.

Rhetoric was forever at pains to disentangle itself from unwanted associations with female deception and histrionic art, because it was viewed as the art of socially weak women and slaves, and rhetoricians of all ages have assiduously fought against any trace of bodily and vocal practice associated with these groups.

15 12. Enders (1997) 253&endash;78. Such gendering of aesthetic categories prevails not only in antiquity but appears also in Kant's distinction between the passive feminine beautiful and the active masculine sublime

and in Rousseau's association of art and the theater with the feminine. I have in mind Kant's "The Beautiful and the Sublime" and "The Fair Sex" and Jean-Jacques Rousseau's "On Theater and Morals," in Kramnick (1995) 339&endash;42, 580;86, 33


When ANY reader of the Word 'As it is written for our learning" knows the meaning of the Ekklesia or Synagogue ordained by Christ in the wilderness and exampled and commanded by Jesus Christ.

Isn't it amazingly amazing that these persons have been able to build and confiscate "mega churches" and turn them into "theaters for holy entertainment" when it is in fact ANTI-Christian and anti Rational or spiritual:

Dr. John D. Garr

"When Christians think of worship, images of the Sunday morning worship service come to view, with singing, praying, giving, preaching, and sharing the sacrament. Study is perhaps something that is done in preparation for worship, but could Christians ever conceive of study, itself, as an act of worship, even the highest form of worship? When we analyze this concept, however, we begin to understand that

"intensive study of the Word of God is the most reliable way in which God can speak to us and cause us to understand his will and his ways.

"Even the most intense and profound subjective experiences must be judged by the written Word of God (II Peter 1:16-19). Study of the Word of God, then, with a view toward doing the Word, is an act of submission to the divine will, the essence of true worship. When we pray, we speak with God; when we study, God speaks to us.

"For many centuries study has been at the very heart of the Jewish experience, so much so that much of Judaism has considered study as the highest form of worship.

"Humbly submitting oneself to the wisdom of God revealed in the Tenach (Hebrew Scriptures) was viewed as worship, which literally meant to "prostrate oneself" before the Eternal. The Hebrew word for worship, dg"s] (segad), means to "bow down or do obeisance to,"and it has the connotation of total submission to a superior (as the king). The Greek translation of this word, proskunevw (proskunéo), is even more graphic, meaning to "kiss as a dog licking its master's hand."


Hebrews 12 warns that people who do NOT come before God in reverence and godly fear that GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE.

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January 15th, 2013, 2:02 pm #6

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

Ken Sublett said "Never take a talley: David did that and could never come before God again."

Ken, prove that with Scripture please. Scripture from the inspired 66 books of our complete Word of God.
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January 15th, 2013, 5:32 pm #7

Anyone who can HALLUCINATE the use of INSTRUMENTS always using the Levites as their pattern Has Never, Can Never read Acts 7 beyond "gittin up my sermon" or even fleecing you for a Bible Degree.

Acts 7:44 Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
Acts 7:45 Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;
Acts 7:46 Who found favour before God,
and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.

Skenoma (g4638) skay'-no-mah; from 4637; an encampment, i.e. (fig.) the Temple (as God's residence), the body (as a tenement for the soul): - tabernacle.

Acts 7:47 BUT Solomon built him an house.
Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Acts 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Acts 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.


They resisted the Holy Spirit OF Christ Who ordained ONLY a TENT to prove that you cannot CALL GOD into your unholy Temple so that YOU can perform worship. God lives with His People: in the tabernacle of their heart.

Having missed that, ALL of the clergyhood gets pretty angry when you cay that the Spirit OF Christ said that God did not command ANY of the Civil-Military-Clergy complex which Christ said were robbers and parasites.

AFTER DAVID TOOK THE CENSUS without redeeming the men INTENDING to keep a STANDING ARMY (Senior pastor and Staff infection confiscating the tithes of the working class-SERFS)

REMEMBER that Jerusalem was the center of STAR WORSHIP, called SODOM and the Mother of Harlots.

1 Chron 21:15 And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the Lord beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the Lord stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.

1 Chron 21:16 And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of the Lord stand between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders of Israel, who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces.

1 Chron 21:17 And David said unto God, Is it not I that commanded the people to be numbered? even I it is that have sinned and done evil indeed; but as for these sheep, what have they done? let thine hand, I pray thee, O Lord my God, be on me, and on my fathers house; but not on thy people, that they should be plagued.

1 Chron 21:25 So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight.

1 Chron 21:26 And David built there an altar unto the Lord, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the Lord; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.

1 Chron 21:27 And the Lord commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof.

1 Chron 21:28 At that time when David saw that the Lord had answered him in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite, then he sacrificed there.

1 Chron 21:29 For the tabernacle of the Lord, which Moses made in the wilderness, and the altar of the burnt offering, were at that season in the high place at Gibeon.

1 Chron 21:30 But David could not go before it to enquire of God: for he was afraid because of the sword of the angel of the Lord.


Rather than let David die, God FAVORED or gracefully gave him a Jebusite high place. After the temple was built the LEVITES were not "musical worship ministers' but they made lots of noise to warn YOU that if you came inside the gates (camp) you would be executed. A Levite who took a harp into any holy place would be executed.

Under "Star Worship" the Jewish Encyclopedia states: "Star Worship" is perhaps the oldest form of idolatry practiced by the ancients. The observation of the stars in the East very early led the people to regard the planets and the fixed stars as gods. The religion of the ancient Egyptians is known to have consisted preeminently of Sun-worship. Moses sternly warned the Israelites against worshipping the Sun, Moon, stars, and all the hosts of heaven (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:3). The Israelites fell into this kind of idolatry and as early as the time of Amos they had the images of Siccuth and Chium, 'the stars of their god' (Amos 5:26); the latter name is generally supposed to denote the planet Saturn. That the Kingdom of Israel fell earlier than that of Judah is stated (II Kings 17:16) to have been due, among other causes, to its worshipping the host of heaven.
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January 15th, 2013, 5:42 pm #8

Max Lucado wrote 'Cosmic Christmass' and Rubel Shelly wanted to BAPTIZE Santa: He said that we should think of the S.O.N. god as the S.U.N. god.

Rick Atchley and all of those trying to destroy the TRADITIONALISTS who can read the Word of God said that in 2 Chronicles 29 recording Hezekiah's Plague-Stopping, TEMPLE Exorcism animal sacrifice has been whispered to him by "a" spirit that God COMMANDS US TO DO INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE with a threat of being disobedient. Evil people are still trying to dismantle the MEGA churches which were phallic symbols of Civic Pride--and the will.

<font color="#0000FF">But the Kingdom of Judah in its later period seems to have outdone the Northern Kingdom [Israel] in star-worship." Of Manasseh it is related that he built altars to all the hosts of heaven in the two courts of the house of YHWY, and it seems it was the practice of even Kings before him to appoint priests who offered sacrifices to the Sun, the Moon, the planets, and all the hosts of heaven. Altars for star-worship were built on the roofs of the houses, and horses and chariots were dedicated to the worship of the Sun. (II Kings 21:5; 23:4-5, 11-12) Star-worship continued in Judah until the 18th year of Josiah's reign (621 B.C.) when the King took measures to abolish all kinds of idolatry. But although star-worship was then abolished as a public cult, it was practiced privately by individuals who worshipped the heavenly bodies, and poured out libations to them on the roofs of their houses (Zephaniah 1:5; Jeremiah 8:2; 19:13) Jeremiah, who prophesied in the sixth year of the captivity of Jehoiachin (591 B.C.) describes the worship of the Sun as practiced in the court of the Temple (Ezekiel 8:16) and that even after the destruction of the Temple the women insisted on continuing to worship the Queen of Heaven.

"The ancient Hebrews, being nomads like the Arabs, favored the Moon, while the Babylonians, who were an agricultural nation, preferred the Sun. But, as appears from Ezekiel 20:7-8 the Moon-worship of the Israelites, even while they were still in Egypt was combined with Sun-worship."


I don't even know of a CONSERVATIVE preacher who will not hurt you for telling them that the Spirit OF Christ in the pophets said that God DID NOT COMMAND animal sacrifices or burnt offerings. Even making an IMAGE of the Universal Spirit God as lusting to EAT WITH US while we BURN THE FAT WITH JUBILATION may be a terminal disabling folly.
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January 15th, 2013, 5:49 pm #9

Ken Sublett said "Never take a talley: David did that and could never come before God again."

Ken, prove that with Scripture please. Scripture from the inspired 66 books of our complete Word of God.
Dave should have said, "Ken, prove that with Scripture please. Scripture from the inspired 66 books of our CURRENT Word of God."

Actually, the Scriptures mention nothing about 66 books. According only to the TRADITION OF MEN, the "complete" biblical canon consists of 66 books. Dave has yet to prove that the Scriptures limit the "complete" canon to only 66 books.
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January 15th, 2013, 5:56 pm #10

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

Stephen was murdered primarily because he told the Jews that THEY could not read BLACK text on BROWN paper as Moses promised and Paul continued for those refusing to be baptized.



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