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January 15th, 2013, 6:20 pm #11

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

You remember that the Church is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and Apostles: the Spirit of Christ connects the two.


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January 15th, 2013, 9:38 pm #12

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

1 Chronicel 22
9 But you will have a son who will be a man of peace and rest, and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side. His name will be Solomon, and I will grant Israel peace and quiet during his reign. 10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.


Ken, God did speak to David again......through his son Solomon...and did God bless David through Solomon?
OH YEA!!!

Ken, that is what happens when you abuse Scripture.....it comes back to bite you.

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January 15th, 2013, 11:31 pm #13

There are three accounts:
David had shed TOO much blood
Solomon had not shed ENOUGH blood
God: God doesn't dwell in houses built by man: God promised a FAMILY

David wanted to build a HOUSE for God to dwell in: God said I will build you a HOUSEHOLD which would be the Kingdom of the SON Jesus.

1Chr 22:7 And David said to Solomon, My son, as for me, it was in my mind to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God:

1Chr 22:8 But the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Thou hast shed blood abundantly, and hast made great wars:
thou shalt not build an house unto my name,
because thou hast shed much blood upon the earth in my sight.

1Chr 22:9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest;
and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about:
for his name shall be Solomon,
and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.

1Chr 22:10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I will be his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever.


THAT WAS THE SCRIBE'S ACCOUT. The Spirit OF Christ said:

Isaiah 57:14 And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people.
Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dogs neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swines blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.


A DISCIPLE is a student of Christ in the Prophets and Apostles and NOT in the chronicles of the NOT commanded temple.

Now, turn your head toward Jesus in the PROPHETS and your preacher AIN'T one.

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January 15th, 2013, 11:44 pm #14

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

Jesus just demands that you be a student of HIS Word. When people build churches or CIRCES they are ignorantly worshiping the Babylon Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) whose craftsmen, singers and musicians are SORCERERS (Rev 18) who will or are being cast alive into the lake of Fire.

Jerusalem is called SODOM and the Mother of Harlots and she rest on seven HILLS: maybe there is a HILLS church near you.

The Ekklesia or Synagogue of Christ is the HOUSE of the Lord meaning a FAMILY. Families do not force you to PAY in order to PRAY in the holy places. Families guide, guard and protect you: the CHIEF duty is to train up a child in the way they should go.

Jesus died to give REST and protection from the wind (angry breath) and rain and NOT a place to INVITE IN the world for which Jesus did not pray or the WISE or sophists (rhetoricians, singers, musicians, actors doing pretend WORK).

Judas claimed to be a familiar friend of Jesus: he tried to goose him into action: the Judas Bag was for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instrument. He induces the ALARM or TRIUMPH OVER which Christ outlawed for the Church in the wilderness.

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January 16th, 2013, 12:09 am #15

1 Chronicel 22
9 But you will have a son who will be a man of peace and rest, and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side. His name will be Solomon, and I will grant Israel peace and quiet during his reign. 10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.


Ken, God did speak to David again......through his son Solomon...and did God bless David through Solomon?
OH YEA!!!

Ken, that is what happens when you abuse Scripture.....it comes back to bite you.
Dave can't even (ab)use Scripture to prove that there are allegedly only 66 books in the "complete" biblical canon.
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January 16th, 2013, 2:02 am #16

Jesus just demands that you be a student of HIS Word. When people build churches or CIRCES they are ignorantly worshiping the Babylon Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) whose craftsmen, singers and musicians are SORCERERS (Rev 18) who will or are being cast alive into the lake of Fire.

Jerusalem is called SODOM and the Mother of Harlots and she rest on seven HILLS: maybe there is a HILLS church near you.

The Ekklesia or Synagogue of Christ is the HOUSE of the Lord meaning a FAMILY. Families do not force you to PAY in order to PRAY in the holy places. Families guide, guard and protect you: the CHIEF duty is to train up a child in the way they should go.

Jesus died to give REST and protection from the wind (angry breath) and rain and NOT a place to INVITE IN the world for which Jesus did not pray or the WISE or sophists (rhetoricians, singers, musicians, actors doing pretend WORK).

Judas claimed to be a familiar friend of Jesus: he tried to goose him into action: the Judas Bag was for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instrument. He induces the ALARM or TRIUMPH OVER which Christ outlawed for the Church in the wilderness.

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

I am beginning this study of the Promise of God to David of a House. IT WILL grow and grow. That's what a disciple DOES: if one begins to jump and sing and clap and gyrate he--she--it has an UNHOLY Spirit.

Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.
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January 16th, 2013, 4:10 am #17

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Just a reminder regarding the issue of the man-made (Catholic Church- and Nicene- approved) Trinity dogma using Matt. 28:19 to prove that "the Holy Ghost" OF God is the "3rd person."

"In the name of" is a KEY expression in that passage. It is singular, although 3 entities are listed. It doesn't prove that God's "Holy Ghost" is a person, more so as the third person [based on the Trinitarian's ranking system].

Christ was still with His disciples when He gave that commission. And He did not say "baptize in the name of Jesus Christ." But to prove that the name is SINGULAR and the singular name refers to that of the Lord Jesus Christ, just read all these passages:[/color]

<ol>[*] In the name of the only begotten Son of God -- (John 3:18)

</li>[*] In the name of Jesus Christ -- ([be baptized] Acts 2:38; 16:18)

</li>[*] In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth -- (Acts 3:6)

</li>[*] In the name of Jesus -- (Acts 4:18; 5:40; 9:27)

</li>[*] In the name of the Lord Jesus -- ([were baptized] Acts 8:16; 9:29; 19:5; Col. 3:17)

</li>[*] In the name of the Lord -- ([to be baptized] Acts 10:48; Jas. 5:10; 5:14)

</li>[*] In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ -- (I Cor. 5:4; II Thess. 3:6)

</li>[*] In the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit OF OUR God -- (I Cor. 6:11)

</li>[*] Unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ -- (Eph. 5:20)
</li>[/list][color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]OK, just a reminder about the singular "name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The other point in that passage is about "the School of Christ" that must perpetuate. It is all explained and supported by the following verse:

"TEACHING them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world." (Matt. 28:20)

Christians must continue to learn, to teach and be taught -- even AFTER baptism -- in the School of Christ.

TEACH ... BAPTIZE [CONVERT] ... and TEACH!!![/color]
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January 16th, 2013, 1:32 pm #18

When God promised David a HOUSE He promised a FAMILY or the Ekklesia or Church of Christ. Jesus was the SEED of David and of Abraham. Paul in Galatians 3 leap-frogs all of the Law and defines the ONLY Spiritual Covenant God in Christ made to Abraham. Those who are saved by faith means that those who have been BAPTIZED INTO Christ. They become the sons of God and of Abraham. There was no religious spectacles in the Abrahamic Covenant even AFTER the Law of Moses given because of MUSICAL transgression.

http://www.piney.com/David.and.the.House.For.God.html

The Ekklesia or A Church of Christ is a SCHOOL (only) of Christ (only) in the Prophets and Apostles. That is what BUILDS up the members in a kingdom which is mostly invisible.

http://www.piney.com/The.Ekklesia.A.Chu ... hrist.html

What it says, Ken, is that you say things that aren't true. You made the allegation but could not prove it with Scripture.
When it comes to the Word of God, man's personal opinion (yours) doesn't count.
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January 16th, 2013, 4:48 pm #19

There was to be only ONE Tabernacle which was to serve as a WITNESS of unity: it was not a worship center.

People Rested, Read, and Rehearsed the Word of God at the synagogues: Only draft age males were commanded to attend the feasts at Jerusalem: this was SUMMER CAMP only for warrior males.

The Tabernacle was a PATTERN from heaven: you had to accept the sacrifice and be baptized (laver was 7 feet deep) before a priests could enter into the Holy Place. That was symbolic of the Bread of fellowship, the 7 lamps representing the seven Spirits OF knowledge and the incense altar looking INTO the Most Holy place. Any priests who held a worship service and brought an instrument into the Prophetic Type of the Church was to be executed.

You WILL remember the preacher teaching you that the tribes east of the Jordan built an altar and violated the Law of God. They were forced to claim that the had not SINNED by building another altar for sacrifices:

Joshua 22:19 Notwithstanding, if the land of your possession be unclean, then pass ye over unto the land of the possession of the LORD, wherein the LORDs tabernacle dwelleth, and take possession among us: but rebel not against the LORD, nor rebel against us, in building you an altar beside the altar of the LORD our God.
Joshua 22:29 God forbid that we should rebel against the LORD, and turn this day from following the LORD, to build an altar for burnt offerings, for meat offerings, or for sacrifices, beside the altar of the LORD our God that is before his tabernacle.


David sinned and let the plague afflict the people. Finally, God FAVORED David rather than kill him and permitted HIS altar at ZION but not a HOUSE on Moriah where "God had PROVIDED the Lamb" to Abraham.

The "lord" spoke through GAD who was a STARGAZER:

1 Chron 21:27 And the Lord commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof.

1 Chron 21:28 At that time when David saw that the Lord had answered him in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite, then HE sacrificed there.


The SINGULAR Tabernacle which was a SIGN OF UNITY was not in Jerusalem: David would get UNITY by shedding blood and murdering the NATIONS rather than being a BLESSING to the nations or Gentiles.

1 Chron 21:29 For the tabernacle of the Lord, which Moses made in the wilderness, and the altar of the burnt offering, were at that season in the high place at Gibeon.

1 Chron 21:30 But David could not go before it to enquire of God: for he was afraid because of the sword of the angel of the Lord.


David KNEW that the LORD'S TABBERNACLE was at Gibeon. David must have WANTED to return but could not: The Sword of the Lord guarded the REAL tabernacle from David's presence just as the flaming swords guarded Adam and Eve from returning to God's presence. God PERMITTED David a TENT but SOLOMON built God a HOUSE but, God does not dwell in houses and CANNOT be worshipped by the works of human hands: raising, pointing, clapping, picking and drumming.

The ONLY worship concept is EKKLESIA--SYNAGOGUE: you have NOTHING to contribute. Christ OUTLAWED speaking your own words Isaiah 58. You go to SCHOOL to learn: you enter into your "closet" to pray and YOUR hand must not know what MY hand gives in ALMS.

When you see that "1 Chron 21:30" THAT is included with the rest of the Old Testament. Look at the list in the front of your Bible.

This was a Prophetic Type: David had to slaughter lots of people to become king of a UNITED kingdom against the will of most people. If God had wanted to approve David He could have caused the people to be united without shedding a drop of blood.

Your preacher MUST slaughter in intent when he lies in order to IMPOSE David's Warrior Soothsayers to CONTRIBUTE to God. If not limited by LAW HE would shed blood in order to MAKE CHANGES to IMPOSE what God imposed as a CURSE.

The command is to PREACH the word by READING the word: that is the only way to confess to the world that JESUS PAID IT ALL and the Spirit OF Christ taught it all. Those ho presume to come to God's AID may not yet know that they are Judas Goats (cappella)

Withing 5 years of Solomon's death the UNION was dissolved and the Egyptian came to RECOVER all of that goal they "borrowed" by fleecing the Egyptians.
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January 16th, 2013, 5:47 pm #20

What it says, Ken, is that you say things that aren't true. You made the allegation but could not prove it with Scripture.
When it comes to the Word of God, man's personal opinion (yours) doesn't count.
Look at Dave grousing about man's "personal opinion" and "can't prove with Scripture," when he rabidly subscribes to MAN'S PERSONAL OPINION that the "complete" biblical canon is 66 books, yet he still can't prove even that from Scripture. You stick your foot in your mouth every time, Dave.
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