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Would the discussants please tell me the difference in being God and being divine.There is only one Lord: "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord" (Mark 12:29).
The Shema is a primary prayer recited in the synagogues:
Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD OUR God is ONE LORD:
Deut. 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deut. 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
Jesus identified the Scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites: speakers, singers, instrument players. They knew that if they could get Jesus to DENY the Shema they would have him so trapped that they had a right to have Him executed. Jehovah is the ONE TRUE Elohim. They have many gods (the Jews) but Jehovah is OUR Elohim. Lord-God is the sure way to repudiate the authority of the "gods" people just made up.
Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is one Lord:
Jesus just said with blinding truth that HE was not but THE Lord is OUR God and there is only ONE JEHOVAH. And no Jew was so ignorant as to make and IDOL thinking that Jehovah was THREE PERSONS about the size of Jesus.
While men bowed to Jesus as physical "worship" Jesus said:
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love THE Lord THY God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
That does not give room for ANY even token disciple to sing a praise song:
We worship the Father
We worship Jesus
We worship the holy spirit.
Mark 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is NONE OTHER BUT HE.
Denying that father-son relationship, says John, makes one an antichrist. The Scribe says there is NONE (exclusive) OTHER (exclusive) but HE (not they). False teachers gladly say that Jesus Christ was too ignorant not to know that the Scribe was lying and no one understood the truth truth until WE dredged the "trinity" by quoting passages hoping people will not read.
Watched a program today about the Puritans: getting access to the printed Bible suddenly made them aware that they didn't need the clergy: the clergy in turn got as many murdered as possible. The historian noted that Western Civilization was the result of not trusting one person to be our mediator in song and sermon.
Some people declare that Jesus cannot be God, because the Bible does not explicitly say, "Jesus is God." Of course, the Bible also does NOT explicitly say, "Jesus is not God," yet those people conveniently ignore the latter. Even though the Bible refers to God as the Father and to Jesus as the Son of God and the Son of man, God and Jesus have a common link -- they are the "Lord":Your explanation is satisfying.
Some were denying that Jesus Christ had come in the flesh in 2 John. Some of the Gnostics were saying that Jesus was just "spirit" and not "flesh."
The belief in the bodily existence of Jesus was referred to as the "teaching of Christ" or "doctrine of Christ."
Most everyone I think are referring to the Father when they use the word "God."
However, is there any place in the Old Testament that refers to God as "the Father"? It is consistent with New Testament writing to refer to the "Father" since there is a "Son."
Offspring of divinity was not considered identical with the source of the offspring in many ancient writings. It was common to refer the Word, or Logos, as an emanation from God.
The Word then is an emanation, so the Spirit could be considered an emanation. There might be some confusion concerning the Holy Spirit as a product of the Word, when Christ Himself is reflected as the Word. John 1.
Would you say that Jesus is the Word, and his moral teachings (Words) are either the vehicle of the Spirit or are the Spirit? I see some overlap between Spirit and Word.