The Amorality of Modern Church Worship

Bill
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June 15th, 2016, 11:50 pm #101

Since Scripture seems to take great interest in the Old Testament's view of slaughtering homosexuals, perhaps he thinks that the only "good" homosexual is a dead homosexual. Hey, that saying used to be applied to the Indians. Now Scripture has found a new use for it. Isn't he clever?
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June 16th, 2016, 1:28 am #102

I am a pacifist. So I don't believe in taking lives.
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June 16th, 2016, 1:47 am #103

Since Scripture seems to take great interest in the Old Testament's view of slaughtering homosexuals, perhaps he thinks that the only "good" homosexual is a dead homosexual. Hey, that saying used to be applied to the Indians. Now Scripture has found a new use for it. Isn't he clever?
Never give into bullies.
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June 16th, 2016, 2:35 am #104

<font face="arial" size="4">Notice those whom God 'turns over to worship the starry host' and the sexual-homosexual rituals which surround any "holy place" looking for food and company.

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Rom 1:21

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Rom 1:22

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Rom 1:23


They rose up AGAINST God to PLAY: that is the instrumental-trinitarian disturbance of others on the REST day. God abandoned these musical idolaters who decided they had a right to disturb even God on His REST example. The masses are earth-born and act like animals. Those who keep contact with God and HIS EDUCATIONAL ONE-PIECE PATTERN are PROTECTED from those OF THE WORLD who seduce them as the serpent seduced Eve. When God cuts you loose:

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Rom 1:24

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. Rom 1:25

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:26

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Rom 1:27

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Rom 1:28


And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. Acts 7:41

Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Acts 7:42


The have OTHER MARKS on their brassy forehead.

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Rom 1:29

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Rom 1:30

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Rom 1:31

Who, knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Rom 1:32


Somehow everyone seems to ignore the fact that BEING CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE seems reserved for all craftsmen, singers and instrument players who HAD deceived the whole world once and are defined as SORCERERS.

Paul warned about the Mad Women at Corinth as making people think that you are MAD or manteion

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June 16th, 2016, 2:39 am #105

Bill must think that Romans is a book in the OT.
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June 16th, 2016, 5:06 am #106

The Cross WAS the 'Assault Rifle' as the SYMBOL of all ancient and modern paganism. We honor Jesus who ESCAPED the cross which then and now reminds you of wineskins gods such as Dionysus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

The swastika (also known as the gammadion cross, cross cramponnée, or tetraskelion) (as a character: 卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious symbol that generally takes the form of an equilateral cross, with its four legs bent at 90 degrees.[1][2] It is considered to be a sacred and auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism and dates back to before the 2nd century BCE.[3]

The Cross

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross

Heb. 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

The torture device was a DRUM which like a WHEEL had X or cross members.

5178. tumpani÷zw tumpanizo, toom-pan-id´-zo; from a derivative of 5180 (meaning a DRUM, “tympanum”); to stretch on an instrument of torture resembling a drum, and thus beat to death: — torture.

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Just WHAT are you doing today that you resent doing and posting research?
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Ken was asking Bill a question: "Just WHAT are you doing today that you resent doing and posting research?"

It's possible that Bill may just be having a bad hair day as we all at times do.

Just give Bill time to research the "pagan origins of the cross" (and with more time to research the "pagan origins of the Trinity doctrine" that we can continue discussing at another time).

Acts 13:29 says that "they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre." In I Peter 2:24 -- "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree."

It's human nature, I guess, that we can have a vivid imagination of the cross as a "geometrical figure" and the conventional image of a fully bearded Jesus with long hair.

(The "Orlando" attack may be off topic; but we can continue discussing "the amorality of modern church worship.")[/color]

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June 16th, 2016, 12:18 pm #107

The tendency in worship may be to supplant spirituality with technology.

The slickest most hypnotic video may do little to improve one's relationship with God or to increase one's obedience.

Videos do contain images that are not tolerated in the worship itself.

I saw one such video with Jesus writhing on the cross--possibly not good for the children in the audience.

Church audiences will tolerate instrumental music on a video, but these same churches may rise in rebellion to an actual organ being in their worship.

The ancient Hebrews (sorry, Bill) did not believe in images of God, since this was not very far from idolatry.

Perhaps a key concept here is the "word" which cannot be expressed by video.

If a picture is worth a thousand words (and these words are much different to different people) then words cannot be expressed in a picture. Words can convey much more meaning than pictures.

Have we substituted pictures for words?

And what does the Word of God have to do with pictures?

Pictures themselves can become boring, and classes often get tired of overheads and powerpoints.
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Bill
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June 16th, 2016, 1:40 pm #108

I am a pacifist. So I don't believe in taking lives.
Of course, Scripture would never personally take the lives of homosexuals, since s/he's a "pacifist." But that doesn't mean s/he wouldn't jump to see all homosexuals exterminated (kinda like the Hitler syndrome), since s/he espouses Old Testament punishments. BTW, you big on gas chambers? It's not like OT stoning, but I've heard that it's very effective.
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June 16th, 2016, 2:09 pm #109

Bill must think that Romans is a book in the OT.
Yes, Romans condemns homosexuality (not with that word, but the implication is quite clear), just as the OT does. The point is not that homosexuality is wrong -- it's definitely wrong. The point is that Jesus never advocated exterminating homosexuals (except perhaps Hitler-oriented Scripture, who thrives on OT punishments and would like to see all homosexuals ground into dust). If Scripture can be patient, God will deal with homosexuals in due course. In the meantime, follow Jesus' words: "Go, and sin no more."
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Bill
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June 16th, 2016, 2:10 pm #110

Never give into bullies.
You're funny, Scrip.
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