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March 3rd, 2011, 3:51 am #1

Speaking Psalms Hymns Spiritual Songs

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1Timothy 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to [public] reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
1Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, [teaching]
with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
1Timothy 4:15 Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.

I. to care for, attend to a thing,
II. c. acc. rei, to attend to, study, doxan to study,

1Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them:
for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

When one PRAYS it is nice to know WHAT is being prayed.
Hymns are PRAYERS: you can do silent prayer, you can pray OUT LOUD. The prisoners UNDERSTOOD the prayer. The prayer was one of the HYMNS which even children would have learned. Prayers in the Bible most often quote the text.

Hymns never include SINGING or PLAYING.
IF YOU SING a HYMN it takes two words. Sing is not in the text so the CONTENT of their prayers were HYMNS. If you want to tell someone to SING and then define a HYMN as the content it takes two words:

aoids humnos

Humnos means "without the flute" or "without the lyre."

We look for an example and when the writer intends that you SING A SONG he MUST use two words or a compound word:: there is no command, example or remote inference in the Bible that anyone SANG a HYMN. Remember that in Ephesians 5 the command is to SPEAK hymns. No one could accidentally make that SING HYMNS. The word SPEAK as LOGOS excludes poetry or music.

Homer, Odyssey 8:26: and do ye heat for the stranger a cauldron on the fire, and warm water, that when he has bathed and has seen well bestowed all the gifts which the noble Phaeacians have brought hither, he may take pleasure in the feast, and in hearing the strains of the song.

No one ever attributed anything but pleasure to music much like that of eating and drinking wine.


Hesiod Works and Days:
Then I crossed over to Chalcis, to the games of wise Amphidamas where the sons of the great-hearted hero proclaimed and appointed prizes. And there I boast that I gained the victory with a song and carried off a handled tripod which I dedicated to the Muses of Helicon, in the place where they first set me in the way of clear song. [660] Such is all my experience of many-pegged ships; nevertheless I will tell you the will of Zeus who holds the aegis; for the Muses have taught me to sing in marvellous song.

If the writer wanted to ADD a musical instrument the expression is:

Humnoi ho kuris hu. pros kitharan deto [aeido] hesttn
Pro means 6. with the accompaniment of musical instruments, p. kalamon Pi.O.10(11).84; p. aulon or ton aulon, E.Alc.346, X.Smp.6.3, etc.; p. luran . . adein SIG662.13 (Delos, ii B. C.); p. rhuthmon embainein to step in time, D.S.5.34.

It is blaspheming the Spirit OF Christ and the intelligence of Paul to CLAIM that they were so illiterate that they could NOT demand the ACCOMPANIMENT of a harp if they wanted to say that.

The reason Paul puts the singing IN THE HEART is that EXTERNAL singing among the pagans who INCLUDED instruments sang like the modern "Praise Teams" just making "Jerky" and falsetto sounds:

Aeido of all kinds of vocal sounds, crow as cocks hoot as owls, croak as frogs, the Locust, twang, of the bow-string, whistle, of the wind through a tree, ring, of a stone when struck, to crow too soon.

When you want to SING to the LYRE the evidence is aeido pros [with the accompaniment of] aulone [flute] luran [harp] sing to a harp. That is, you match your voice to the sound of a single string twang.

The decent people never beat on the strings WHILE they were SPEAKING.

There is no such language in the Bible. These people are enemies of Christ and His Word which is FREE (Isaiah 55) and they are outlawed from SPEAKING THEIR OWN WORDS (Isaiah 58).

Almost without exception theologians use the "proof text" method which has been condemned down through history.

Jesus ended the controversy when He said that the doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge.

He called the Scribes (doctors) and Pharisees hypocrites by pointing out speakers, singers and instrument players.

Proof texters take small bites out of large passage and pretend that they are Doctors of the Law. Grace Centered is one of those forums where people claiming to represent the Church of Christ just go limp when you quote whole context.

The problem with nibbling around the edges is that those old literates spoke thought patterns: the first verse they use will FOOL the foolish if they don't read the whole teaching pattern. Because of the use of the word FOR we can easily see that...

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26
(what I mean is that) as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Galatians 3:27

Back to Ephesians 5 where people see the words "SPEAK to yourselves" and go blind and read.

SING to yourselves.

You need "a" spirit to make you miss theself evident.

They see "singing AND melody" IN YOUR HEART and translate it.
Singing (to yourselve) and make melody WITH a harp.

If you read before Ephesians 5:19 you will see that Paul SETS UP Antithetical Parallels and a DISCIPLE must follow the method to get the message. You REALLY need to begin with Ephesians 4 where the CUNNING craftsmen who MUST be silenced are the rhetoricians, singers, and instrument players.

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