Otter Creek-Zoe Group, Nashville,Tn.

Ken Sublett
Ken Sublett

July 18th, 2005, 10:24 pm #81

Looks like another one in the CLUSTER.

http://www.ocreach.com/

I think that the message needs to go out to these poor souls that building BIGGER BARNS is not the plan. Furthermore, they need to be informed that there is NO LAW OF TITHING, NO LAW OF GIVING and the LAW OF PLEDGING that which you DO NOT HAVE is ANTI-BIBLICAL.
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james
james

July 20th, 2005, 4:15 pm #82

i can't argue with you because you think you know everything, but just reading this website makes me very sad for you. i hope that you will one day attempt to unite the body of christ instead of trying to pick it apart and always be right.

today, i pray for you ken.
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John
John

July 20th, 2005, 6:59 pm #83

Looks like another one in the CLUSTER.

http://www.ocreach.com/

I think that the message needs to go out to these poor souls that building BIGGER BARNS is not the plan. Furthermore, they need to be informed that there is NO LAW OF TITHING, NO LAW OF GIVING and the LAW OF PLEDGING that which you DO NOT HAVE is ANTI-BIBLICAL.
What this is really about is judging a church without actually being a part of it.
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y.s.u.
y.s.u.

August 2nd, 2005, 11:49 pm #84

if that's the case then i'm gonna go cut out the books of first and second corinthians and the first few pages of revelation, o.k. w/ you ?
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John
John

August 3rd, 2005, 1:30 pm #85

Except that Paul had founded the church in Corinth and it was Jesus making the judgment on the churches in Revelation, so your argument doesn't really hold water in this case.
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C.R.
C.R.

August 5th, 2005, 12:17 am #86

Funny, I thought it was Jesus who established churches. So it was actually Paul? I thought Peter was the first Pope. And just how many years had transpired since Paul had attended any of their services there at Corinth? Is he like our elders, Once an elder ALWAYS an elder ///Once a member ALWAYS a member? Who's argument doesn't hold up???
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Ken Sublett
Ken Sublett

August 17th, 2005, 3:23 am #87

Can someone give me more information about one of the churches the leader of the Zoe Group is associated with, Otter Creek? I've read all about Woodmont Hills but haven't seen as much about Otter Creek. Thanks.
Matthew 23 has Jesus identifying the sectarian HYPOCRITES (performers) by quoting Isaiah and Ezekiel. Ezekiel makes it clear that the HYPOCRITES were people who had a BEAUTIFUL VOICE (sexual) and could play well on instruments. The message is that it was always the MARK of people who tried to silence the voice of God .

The question in Scripture: "Shall we look TO THE HILLS" meaning NO we shall look to Jehovah and not the gods of the hills. Therefore God left us a MARK to identify false agents of the wrong "gods."

http://www.piney.com/Zoe-Look-To-The-Hills.html

http://www.piney.com/DocEuripBacc.html

Euripides defined the Bacchae which was the perverted Abomination of Desolation in the Temple in Jerusalem. The Jews hoped that Bacchus or Dionysus (the new wineskin god) would be the messiah. The clergy PIPED hoping that Jesus and the disciples would SING and DANCE the perverted Dionysus shuffle. Therefore, if we want to understand where Jesus is POINTING in parables to fool the fools we have to look the to the meaning of an always perverted priesthood.

<font color=blue>CHORUS

To the HILLS! TO THE HILLS! fleet hounds [perverted priests] of madness, where the daughters of Cadmus hold their revels,
  • goad them into wild fury [singing and clapping]

    against the MAN disguised in woman's dress, a frenzied spy upon the Maenads.
First shall his mother MARK him as he peers from some smooth rock or riven tree, and thus to the Maenads she will call, "Who is this of Cadmus' sons comes hasting to the mount, to the mountain away, to spy on us, my Bacchanals? Whose child can he be? For he was never born of woman's blood; but from some lioness maybe or Libyan Gorgon is he sprung." Let justice appear and show herself, sword in hand, to plunge it through and through the throat of the godless, lawless, impious son of Echion, earth's monstrous child!

who with wicked heart and lawless rage, with mad intent and frantic purpose,
  • sets out to meddle with thy holy rites, and with thy mother's, Bacchic god, thinking with his weak arm to master might as masterless as thine.

    This is the life that saves all pain, if a man confine his thoughts to human themes, as is his mortal nature, making no pretence where heaven is concerned.
I envy not deep subtleties; far other joys have I, in tracking out great truths writ clear from all eternity, that a man should live his life by day and night in purity and holiness, striving toward a noble goal, and should honour the gods by casting from him each ordinance that lies outside the pale of right.
  • Let justice show herself, advancing sword in hand to plunge it through and through the throat of Echion's son, that godless, lawless, and abandoned child of earth!
Appear, O Bacchus, to our eyes as a BULL or SERPENT with a hundred heads, or take the shape of a lion breathing flame! Oh! come, and with a mocking smile cast the deadly noose about the hunter of thy Bacchanals, e'en as he swoops upon the Maenads gathered yonder. </font>

AND JESUS SAID OF THE MUSICAL MOCKERS

<font color=red>Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. Psalm 22:11

Many BULLS have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. Psalm 22:12 </font>

<font color=blue>Enter SECOND MESSENGER.

SECOND MESSENGER

O house, so prosperous once through Hellas long ago, home of the old Sidonian prince,
  • who sowed the SERPENT'S crop of earth-born men,

    how do I mourn thee! slave though I be, yet still the sorrows of his master touch a good slave's heart.
</font>AND JESUS SAID OF THE MUSICAL MOCKERS

<font color=red>Ye SERPENTS, ye generation of VIPERS, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Matt 23:33
  • Jesus' Term: Ophis seed of Echidna

    Euripides's Term: DRAKONTOS seed of OPHIS
</font>CHORUS

<font color=blue>How now? Hast thou fresh tidings of the Bacchantes</font>
  • <font color=purple>The BACCHANTES are Bakchê , hê,

    A. Bacchante, A.Eu.25, S.Ant.1122 (lyr.), Ar.Nu.605, Pl. Ion534a, etc.: generally, Bakchê Haidou frantic handmaid of Hades, E.Hec.1077; b. nekuôn Id.Ph.1489 (lyr.).

    mainas , ados, hê, ( [mainomai] )

    A. RAVING, frantic, lussa v. l. in S.Fr.941.4; bakchê E.Ba.915 .

    2. as Subst., MAD WOMEN, [at Corinth] esp. Bacchante, Maenad, mainadi isê Il.22.460 , cf. h.Cer.386, A.Fr.382, S.OT212 (lyr.), etc.; of the Furies, A.Eu.500 (lyr.); of Cassandra, E.Tr. 173 (lyr.).

    3. = pornê, Poll.7.203 cod. A, Hdn.Epim.83.

    porn-ê, hê, A. harlot, prostitute, Archil.142, Ar.Ach.527, etc. (Prob.from pernêmi, because Greek prostitutes were commonly bought slaves.)</font>
The LOOK TO THE HILLS and the BACCHUS or MAD WOMEN (in Corinth) scheme points directly to the MOCKING of Jesus by the SEED OF THE SERPENT which Jesus treated as literally true.

IT IS A FACT THAT GOD ALWAYS GIVES US A WAY OF ESCAPE BY SPEAKING IN PARABLES TO KEEP THE TRUTH FROM THE PROFESSIONAL FALSE PERFORMERS (HYPOCRITES). HE DOES THIS BY POINTING DIRECTLY TO PAGAN, SATANIC VIEWS OF THE WORLD.
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Ken Sublett
Ken Sublett

October 10th, 2005, 2:32 pm #88

Can someone give me more information about one of the churches the leader of the Zoe Group is associated with, Otter Creek? I've read all about Woodmont Hills but haven't seen as much about Otter Creek. Thanks.
Haven't seen any stats on Look to the Hills' Gods this year? Anyone want to report?

I see the old Platonic Fallacy was discussed justifying the ARTS in worship. This is not pretty but I may post some data.
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pm
pm

October 11th, 2005, 11:59 am #89

The conference was full. Signup had to be cut off at 1200
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Jack
Jack

November 22nd, 2005, 2:39 pm #90

I saw this article in the Nashville Tennessean newspaper yesterday.

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ... /511210352

Worshippers show gratitude for diversity

Separate churches raise same songs of thanksgiving in Ryman service

By AILENE TORRES
Staff Writer

A joyful noise rose through the Ryman Auditorium last night, as two distinctively different choirs melded into one.

In a pre-Thanksgiving service designed to bring congregations from different denominations, cultures and backgrounds together, a Baptist minister shared the microphone with a Nazarene minister, and a Church of Christ choir and a Baptist choir sang together.


And worshippers embraced the mixed service and congregation.

"A Christian is a Christian, it doesn't matter if you are black or white," said Pleasant Green Missionary Baptist Church member Dominique Haywood, 37. "Some people are going to be excluded from heaven. It won't matter if you are black or white."

The event, "Thankful We Stand," was a collaboration between TheOperation Andrew Group, a nondenominational outreach association that partners with churches from varying denominations, and the YMCA of Middle Tennessee. Both organizations want to erode racial barriers and foster greater diversity among congregations, organizers said.

"We tend to live in our comfort areas — black, white, Hispanic," said OAG president Charles E. McGowan. "We can walk away from this feeling how big God's church is and give expression to our unity."

The diversity was apparent throughout the service as young and old, black, white, Hispanic and Asian and even the hearing-impaired all praised God together.

As the two choirs from Otter Creek Church of Christ on Granny White Pike and Temple Baptist Church of King's Lane sang together, worshippers sang along or raised their hands to the heavens.

Jeanie Weems, 29, of Bellevue and a member of Otter Creek Church of Christ, said the interdenominational experience was the way things should be.

"It will help us grow in the future. It is a blessing to be around people who do things differently from the way we have done them," she said.

OAG was founded five years agoand has since teamed up with the YMCA of Middle Tennessee to promote interdenominational diversity and National Prayer Day.

Organizers believe the event's 800-plus attendance showed an interest in the community for diverse worship services. They said they plan to organize a similar service next year.

Phil Newman, vice president of communications for the YMCA of Middle Tennessee said the religious program married well with what the Christian organization tries to exemplify.

The Rev. Frank Lewis, of First Baptist Church of Nashville downtown, said the fellowship of worship should automatically bring believers together.

"God is using the churches to spread his love. Don't focus on what divides us," Lewis said. "Focus on the things that unite us."

Otter Creek has a choir? Fellowships other denominations? Why do they get to say they are a Church of Christ?
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