Bubble Burster
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June 3rd, 2014, 2:00 pm #561

Not bust your "I finally got them doing instrumental music" bubble.....BUT the "instrumental Music" your think you heard while singing the last praise song on May 25 was not "instrumental" at all. It was prerecorded vocal percussion...meaning done with vocals, one might say by plucking the heart strings. The vocal percussion was then played back using a loop pedal. Sorry but keep digging. But again reporting facts is not y'all's strong suit in the first place.

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June 3rd, 2014, 2:54 pm #562

A cappella or the Castrated worship team singing ORGANUM or a vocal imitation of a pipe organ. The capella or Sistine Chapel then because the place for the GOAT SINGERS. The castrated (real or pseudo) goat singers replaced the FALSETTOS where the pipe organ was not allowed but the pope could hear a BETTER PSEUDO-PIPE ORGAN.

ACappella (a lie word) is a LEGALISTIC END RUN around the no-instruments. This is to spit in the face of the people and prove that "I IS THE ALPHA GOAT." The Capella was really a SHE goat but MALES were required to perform the ROLE OF WOMEN.

When the law prevented (maybe) castrating the Musical Worship Team, composers wrote TROUSER'S SONGS to accomodate to the very unnatural voice of the modern "praise singers" recognized as the world's OLDEST PROFESSION.

Selling or even giving away ANY of your body parts (speakers, singers, instrument players, actors, dancers) was always called PROSTITUTION. Paul's corrupting the WORD is "selling learning at wholesale" and also defines prostitution. That's why from the wilderness onward the Spirit OF Christ commands PREACHING the Word by READING the Word. That was patterned by Jesus, commanded by Jesus, commanded and practiced throughout the Bible and church history before UNWASHED ELDERS got control.

The VOCAL BAND (heard Keith's once) and understand why the PATTERN is to cast the sorcerers alive into the lake of fire.
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June 3rd, 2014, 4:05 pm #563

Not bust your "I finally got them doing instrumental music" bubble.....BUT the "instrumental Music" your think you heard while singing the last praise song on May 25 was not "instrumental" at all. It was prerecorded vocal percussion...meaning done with vocals, one might say by plucking the heart strings. The vocal percussion was then played back using a loop pedal. Sorry but keep digging. But again reporting facts is not y'all's strong suit in the first place.
If the prerecorded track was not instrumental music as such but "vocal percussion" that realistically mimicked instruments, why have a recording when the praise team can do that stuff live on stage? And if there is such an urgent "need" to incorporate sounds in the assembly that simulate instruments, why not just stop playing sneaky games and haul in the real drums and real guitars? Is that not your ultimate intent? You may say, "Oh no, having REAL instruments in the assembly would be 'wrong' (but given enough time...)." Evidently you have convinced yourselves that having vocal sounds (live or recorded) that so very cleverly mimic instruments will get you off the hook.
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June 3rd, 2014, 6:51 pm #564

A cappella or the Castrated worship team singing ORGANUM or a vocal imitation of a pipe organ. The capella or Sistine Chapel then because the place for the GOAT SINGERS. The castrated (real or pseudo) goat singers replaced the FALSETTOS where the pipe organ was not allowed but the pope could hear a BETTER PSEUDO-PIPE ORGAN.

ACappella (a lie word) is a LEGALISTIC END RUN around the no-instruments. This is to spit in the face of the people and prove that "I IS THE ALPHA GOAT." The Capella was really a SHE goat but MALES were required to perform the ROLE OF WOMEN.

When the law prevented (maybe) castrating the Musical Worship Team, composers wrote TROUSER'S SONGS to accomodate to the very unnatural voice of the modern "praise singers" recognized as the world's OLDEST PROFESSION.

Selling or even giving away ANY of your body parts (speakers, singers, instrument players, actors, dancers) was always called PROSTITUTION. Paul's corrupting the WORD is "selling learning at wholesale" and also defines prostitution. That's why from the wilderness onward the Spirit OF Christ commands PREACHING the Word by READING the Word. That was patterned by Jesus, commanded by Jesus, commanded and practiced throughout the Bible and church history before UNWASHED ELDERS got control.

The VOCAL BAND (heard Keith's once) and understand why the PATTERN is to cast the sorcerers alive into the lake of fire.
Not worried about the:
-ogranum
-goat singers
-Alph goats
-trouser songs
-prostitution and preaching


I just want to know about those sneaky fleecers.....they steal (get it, steal instead of still???) around taking the widow's mites?

Nothing worse than a fleecer.

Would you concur Ken?
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June 3rd, 2014, 9:37 pm #565

Not bust your "I finally got them doing instrumental music" bubble.....BUT the "instrumental Music" your think you heard while singing the last praise song on May 25 was not "instrumental" at all. It was prerecorded vocal percussion...meaning done with vocals, one might say by plucking the heart strings. The vocal percussion was then played back using a loop pedal. Sorry but keep digging. But again reporting facts is not y'all's strong suit in the first place.
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Thanks, Burster, for getting our facts straight. I gather that you may be defending the non-instrumental stance because from your explanation, the use of the REAL musical instruments at Madison has not arrived yet.

How do we learn more about loop pedaling? A good start would be the following info from Wikipedia:

Loop pedals [edit] A recent evolution of the tape loop is the looping pedala digital sampler built into a foot switch-operated pedal of the kind most often used by guitarists to create looping layers of melody or texture during a live performance.

When I Google search: "loop pedal" instrumental (including the double quotes) ... I get the following at the top of the list:

----- Lilac Petals- Instrumental Loop Pedal Creation - YouTube
----- Multi-instrumental live loop pedal song by one man band ...
----- Coldplay - The Scientist (Acoustic Loop Pedal Instrumental ...
----- The Goldfish Song - Kina Grannis Acoustic Loop Pedal ...
----- Josh Wilson - Amazing Grace (live instrumental w/ loop pedal)
----- Metallica - One | First guitar solo / instrumental w/Loop Pedal
----- Metallica - One | First guitar solo / instrumental w/Loop Pedal
----- Loop pedal instrumental cover of "Apologize"by One ...
----- yamaha apx500 with boss rc3 loop pedal demo - pat ...
----- etc., etc., etc.


Try to do this search yourself for IMAGES!!!

Perhaps, the shepherding leadership, as well as the "musical worship" leadership, will change its mind and decide to abandon the destructive-to-the-body-of-Christ implementation of musical instruments and players in the assembly?[/color]
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June 4th, 2014, 12:12 am #566

Original Message <font face="times" size="3">(June 11 2012 at 3:32 AM):</font>

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[color=#000000" size="5" face="times]Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"[/color]
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Last month the elders announced Madison's new "vision" that approves the use of instrumental music. If someone wrote about this I didn't see it.

They said that using instruments is not a "salvation issue". Both services will use acappella music for now, but the first service will now get a praise team like the second service. And the second service will have more creative worship.

But the youth group gets to start using instrumental music. They said light acoustical instruments.

This seems like a huge change so I was surprised not to see it here yet.


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[color=#0000FF" size="5" face="times]Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps ANATHEMA
By Ken Sublett[/color]



Heritage Church of Christ following the ACU pattern has imposed what he calls instrumental music.

http://www.piney.com/Heritage.Church.of ... Music.html

Jim Hackney led by the NACC at ACU gives his "proof texts" all of which are lies because he does not know the context.

http://www.piney.com/Jim.Hackney.Instru ... rship.html

The expression "having cymbals and psalteries and harps" is not a pattern for Christian worship: it is defined as the worship of Apollo (abaddon, Apollyon) and Dionysus first outed at Mount Sinai. If God turned them over to worship the starry host, and scholars agree that the Jews worshipped the starry host on their way back to Babylon, why do you suppose that latter day elders fulfil the warning of Paul against wolves and violently impose the same patternism: Who knows? both the Shadow and any Bible student knows.

http://www.piney.com/Having.Cymbals.and ... s.and.html
David says:
Not worried about the:
-ogranum [sp]
-goat singers [peter pans]
-Alph goats [we burn them]
-trouser songs
-prostitution and preaching

I just want to know about those sneaky fleecers.....they steal (get it, steal instead of still???) around taking the widow's mites? [They STILL in with the New Wineskins worship]

Nothing worse than a fleecer.

Would you concur Ken?


There is something worse: elders that make you pay to get raptured meaning raped. The world is aware that "religious spectacles of sight and sound" is the OUTING of the androgynous worship leader. You can tell by the hand-wringing unable to dialog forumites. Karen Armstrong on Amos notes that the males were so effeminate that they could not enter into dialog with God. Paul DIALOGED until midnight.

http://www.piney.com/Worship.Androgyny. ... Ideal.html

As in ancient Greece. Plato in his Symposium characterizes heterosexual relationships as vulgar and homosexual relationships as heavenly, and a whole elitist society was built around homosexual pederast.

http://www.piney.com/ClassPlatoSymposium.html

Jesus and Peter saidd that we should SAVE OURSELVES from the CROOKED RACE.


The despise the LOGOS or Regulative Principle because the greeks classified people into two RACES:

The Sophia (sophists, rhetoricians, singers, instrument players) as PEDERASTS (Wolves)

The LOGOS or Word or Regulative principle which the girlish hate with a pinkish passion. These are related to teaching and learning and they always vote to SEND AWAY the flute-girls and harp-boys because they produced "getting drunk on wine."


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June 4th, 2014, 12:21 am #567

Not worried about the:
-ogranum
-goat singers
-Alph goats
-trouser songs
-prostitution and preaching


I just want to know about those sneaky fleecers.....they steal (get it, steal instead of still???) around taking the widow's mites?

Nothing worse than a fleecer.

Would you concur Ken?
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Dave,

Are you trying to deviate from the subject dealing with instrumental music at Madison?

That's OK. It's good to know that Ken's lessons concerning "the widow's mites" are that impacting. Yes, the pro-Community Church Movement change agents operating in the brotherhood, co-laboring with a congregation's gullible elders, are doing just that: "Lie, cheat and steal the church house of widows and honest workers...." The victimized congregation like Madison suffers in return. It is no surprise that when a congregation's main financial supporters have passed or gone to seek fellowship somewhere else, the contemporaries (remaining or transferring) are not generous givers and financial supporters.

Madison's weekly contribution (budgeted or actual) has dwindled that much when compared to that in 2000 or earlier. When inflation is factored in, it's even worse. Now, considering the additional staff infection [let's not forget the infection in the idolatrous "Musical Worship" department], what would you expect?

So, as an elder of your own congregation, what lesson have you learned from Madison's "Community Church" experience?[/color]
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June 4th, 2014, 12:40 am #568

While they are traitors to the Word and to the flock "so we can save more souls" it turns out that people don't need them to save their souls and do not think the praisy crazy team as cute as they think they are. You need to look up Rick Atchley with his stunning outfit and debating with three chairs. I talk to my cat but never my chair unless it slips out from under me.

If you count the population growth in Madison and several Billion in the world to which they WILL NOT GO, the church is a incredible shrinking girl.

The Spirit OF Christ told us NOT to spend our money on the FREE WATER OF THE WORD. But then you can get your LUPhDuh with a commentary by the HEAD who cannot read ISAIAH.

http://www.piney.com/Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit.html

This proves that the WORD of Christ IS SPIRIT or the audible BREATH of God. God never breaths out little men to tell Rick Atchley and camp-followers to COMMAND instrumental praise--whatever that be. It also debunks the polytheism of the trinity which marks ANTIchrist says John who said that the "another Comforter" is named Jesus Christ the Righteous.

So, maybe some can tell us the population figures since 2000
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June 4th, 2014, 1:14 am #569

David says:
Not worried about the:
-ogranum [sp]
-goat singers [peter pans]
-Alph goats [we burn them]
-trouser songs
-prostitution and preaching

I just want to know about those sneaky fleecers.....they steal (get it, steal instead of still???) around taking the widow's mites? [They STILL in with the New Wineskins worship]

Nothing worse than a fleecer.

Would you concur Ken?


There is something worse: elders that make you pay to get raptured meaning raped. The world is aware that "religious spectacles of sight and sound" is the OUTING of the androgynous worship leader. You can tell by the hand-wringing unable to dialog forumites. Karen Armstrong on Amos notes that the males were so effeminate that they could not enter into dialog with God. Paul DIALOGED until midnight.

http://www.piney.com/Worship.Androgyny. ... Ideal.html

As in ancient Greece. Plato in his Symposium characterizes heterosexual relationships as vulgar and homosexual relationships as heavenly, and a whole elitist society was built around homosexual pederast.

http://www.piney.com/ClassPlatoSymposium.html

Jesus and Peter saidd that we should SAVE OURSELVES from the CROOKED RACE.


The despise the LOGOS or Regulative Principle because the greeks classified people into two RACES:

The Sophia (sophists, rhetoricians, singers, instrument players) as PEDERASTS (Wolves)

The LOGOS or Word or Regulative principle which the girlish hate with a pinkish passion. These are related to teaching and learning and they always vote to SEND AWAY the flute-girls and harp-boys because they produced "getting drunk on wine."


AHA! I knew it....sooner or later we would agree on something! Nobody likes a fleecer. Indeed! And taking the widows' mites too. Just aint right.
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June 5th, 2014, 1:13 am #570

Original Message <font face="times" size="3">(June 11 2012 at 3:32 AM):</font>

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[color=#000000" size="5" face="times]Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision"[/color]
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Last month the elders announced Madison's new "vision" that approves the use of instrumental music. If someone wrote about this I didn't see it.

They said that using instruments is not a "salvation issue". Both services will use acappella music for now, but the first service will now get a praise team like the second service. And the second service will have more creative worship.

But the youth group gets to start using instrumental music. They said light acoustical instruments.

This seems like a huge change so I was surprised not to see it here yet.


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[color=#0000FF" size="5" face="times]Madison's New (Instrumental) "Vision": Cymbals, Psalteries, Harps ANATHEMA
By Ken Sublett[/color]



Heritage Church of Christ following the ACU pattern has imposed what he calls instrumental music.

http://www.piney.com/Heritage.Church.of ... Music.html

Jim Hackney led by the NACC at ACU gives his "proof texts" all of which are lies because he does not know the context.

http://www.piney.com/Jim.Hackney.Instru ... rship.html

The expression "having cymbals and psalteries and harps" is not a pattern for Christian worship: it is defined as the worship of Apollo (abaddon, Apollyon) and Dionysus first outed at Mount Sinai. If God turned them over to worship the starry host, and scholars agree that the Jews worshipped the starry host on their way back to Babylon, why do you suppose that latter day elders fulfil the warning of Paul against wolves and violently impose the same patternism: Who knows? both the Shadow and any Bible student knows.

http://www.piney.com/Having.Cymbals.and ... s.and.html
Your fella travelers say that NOT allowing musicians to confiscate other people's church means that one is a PHARISEE. Of course you need a Phd or two from a school of theology to make you so blind that you accuse yourself.


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