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[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]You are correct -- why should Trinitarians worry about the man-invented Trinity doctrine approved in the Nicene Creed by the evolving Roman Catholic Church and the Emperor?Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are doing just fine whether we worry about a "Trinity" or not.
The Lord our God is ONE LordGod creaded Adam (mankind) in His own image:
And the LORD God formed man of the DUST of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the BREATH of life; and man became a living SOUL. (KJV) dust = body,
breath = spirit,
and soul = soul.
1Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God [Theos] of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God
your whole spirit
be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord [Kurios] Jesus Christ.
If your spirit is another little person inside of your carnal body then get Obama-Cares-Not quickly.
The grouping of 1-in-3 or 3-in-1 is THEOLOGY Neither exists except as the trinity is defined in the beginning[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Bill,
I may have missed it; would you show a single Scripture reference to God's holy Spirit as "LORD"?
Better yet, there are 32 references to "the Spirit of the Lord" throughout the Bible. Who is the real "Lord" between:
(1) the Lord [Himself]
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(2) the Spirit OF the Lord?
The best ever -- in Ephesians 4:30 where it says, "... grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption" ... Who is God between:
(1) God [Himself]
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(2) the holy Spirit of God?[/color]
[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Bill,Just be satisfied that the grouping is ONE Father and ONE Son and ONE Holy Spirit. Whether they are three-in-one, one-in-three, or some other combination DOES NOT MATTER, because the New Testament gives NO indication that our eternal salvation hangs on how we perceive THEM. I guess I need to keep telling you that to reassure you and ease your mind.
Ken, thanks for keeping them short. My short attention span allowed me to read every one of your posts.The grouping of 1-in-3 or 3-in-1 is THEOLOGY Neither exists except as the trinity is defined in the beginning
Thought and Breath and Word
The One God thinks, breathes and speaks: He speaks His Own Words. They are begotten by Him and therefore they are His Son.
There is ONE GOD (theos)
And there is ONE LORD [Kurios] and Mediator: He is the MAN Jesus whom God MADE to be both Lord and Christ.
In the flesh Jesus was the ONE IMAGE as the antithesis of the always-pagan father, mother (spirit) and son.
In His glorified State Jesus of Nazareth ceased to be the WORD of God as audible and visible, and is now the Holy Spirit or MIND of God.
If you need to JAM another Spirit People between the FATHER and SON then John calls you ANTICHRIST.
When John speaks of Father and Son he follows the PATTERN of all of the Epistles which omit "The Holy Spirit" when Christ had guided the Apostles into all truth.
You deny that Jesus as Lord "made the partial prophets more certain" and thereafter the salutations RECOGNIZES
The One God the Father
And Jesus Christ as His SON
Inserting a SPIRIT person in these concluding letters would indicate that Jesus as Comforter had NOT commpleted THAT WHICH IS PERFECT. Perfection came when EACH eye-- and ear-- witness of the resurrected Jesus "left a memory" for everyone else.
The WORD is THE SPIRIT, the double-edged-sword as the only power in this post-direct operation period.
There is ONE and ONE and not 3-in-1 which is an antichrist graven image.