Kairos Church Planting AMBUSH: Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection.

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November 3rd, 2016, 5:52 pm #1

The Kairos church Planting movement intends to REPLACE your congregation with the most ancient Paganism: Kairos or Hermes is the god of thieves and liars.

http://www.piney.com/Kairos.Church.Planting.Plot.html

Dianna is reading an old CM post where the word Katanysxis is used. We are both researching and I have looked at a few verses where the word is used.

as it is written: "God gave them a spirit OF STUPOR, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day." Ro.11:8

Katanucis (g2659) kat-an'-oox-is; from 2660; a prickling (sensation, as of the limbs asleep), i.e. (by impl. [perh. by some confusion with 3506 or even with 3571]) stupor (lethargy): - slumber.

Katanusso (g2660) kat-an-oos'-so; from 2596 and 3572; to pierce thoroughly, i.e. (fig.)<b> to agitate violently ("sting to the quick"): - prick.


ALL religious observations TO WHICH THE KINGDOM DOES NOT COME depends on inducing a KOMA to AMBUSH you and drag you off to Sodom or Babylon.

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November 3rd, 2016, 7:09 pm #2

From SLUMBER to STUPOR. That is EXACTLY what I mean. Ken, thinking he has whit and laughing at his own jokes.

slumber verb (used without object)
1.
to sleep, especially lightly; doze; drowse.
2.
to be in a state of inactivity, negligence, quiescence, or calm:

stupor (stupefy)
noun
1.
suspension or great diminution of sensibility, as in disease or as caused by narcotics, intoxicants, etc.:
He lay there in a drunken stupor.
2.
mental torpor; stupefaction.

stupefy
verb (used with object), stupefied, stupefying.
1.
put into a stupor.
2.
to stun, as with a narcotic, a shock, or a strong emotion.
3.
to overwhelm with amazement; astound; astonish.


KJV states SLUMBER. Ken states STUPOR. Ken continues to STATE that he 'speaks that which is written' unless......it comes in conflict with what his theory and opinion holds, and ONLY THEN will he take change up the words a bit.

Stupor talks about shock, where Slumber talks of apathy.
THEY AREN'T even close. More proof that Ken SAYS one thing but DOES just as he wants.
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November 3rd, 2016, 7:22 pm #3

HINT: music is the cause.

Thank God and medical science, I am ready for my second pot of coffee. Some things cannot be cured.

Good research: Here is what David Young and HIS elders want to produce as SHOCK AND AWE worship service.

3.to overwhelm with amazement; astound; astonish.

On my alert days they called that witchcraft or sorcery (Revelation 18)

And with MY money!
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November 3rd, 2016, 8:16 pm #4

Are we not supposed to suppress the passions? This way we don't think with our emotions, or react emotionally when we are under threat...we can be cool headed and use our brain to make decisions. I'm not so much talking about physical threat, as I'm speaking of spiritual threats.
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November 4th, 2016, 12:50 am #5

The Kairos church Planting movement intends to REPLACE your congregation with the most ancient Paganism: Kairos or Hermes is the god of thieves and liars.

http://www.piney.com/Kairos.Church.Planting.Plot.html

Dianna is reading an old CM post where the word Katanysxis is used. We are both researching and I have looked at a few verses where the word is used.

as it is written: "God gave them a spirit OF STUPOR, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day." Ro.11:8

Katanucis (g2659) kat-an'-oox-is; from 2660; a prickling (sensation, as of the limbs asleep), i.e. (by impl. [perh. by some confusion with 3506 or even with 3571]) stupor (lethargy): - slumber.

Katanusso (g2660) kat-an-oos'-so; from 2596 and 3572; to pierce thoroughly, i.e. (fig.)<b> to agitate violently ("sting to the quick"): - prick.


ALL religious observations TO WHICH THE KINGDOM DOES NOT COME depends on inducing a KOMA to AMBUSH you and drag you off to Sodom or Babylon.

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Abraham could have read clay tablets connecting the invention of musical instruments as virtual "weapons of mass destruction." ALL musical terms point to witchcraft or sorcery as purely mechanical without any boiling cauldrons. Before connecting Katansxis with the hypocrites in Isaiah 29 as singers, instrument players or actors or dancers, take another look at the meaning of KOMA. Rick Atchley and all of the apostates boast about subjecting "our youth to the best 'christian' bands: we taught our youth to leave our movement." You don't need a lesson plan to get someone hooked on cocaine.

Revelation 18 calls the singers, players and all religious operatives SORCERERS and says that they CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

The end time musical sorcerers according to Jude were FOREORDAINED and all of their "audience" is so cultified that even when they need to flee Babylon the sorcerers have planted great fear such as being labeled a sectarian, patternist, hypocrite. I watched a program of a woman deprogrammed from alcohol for 9 months and she relapsed in 2 weeks. The same is true of music which is much more addictive, you probably cannot be deprogrammed because you are OF the World and lie about their being a Christian World View

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November 4th, 2016, 2:33 pm #6

Are we not supposed to suppress the passions? This way we don't think with our emotions, or react emotionally when we are under threat...we can be cool headed and use our brain to make decisions. I'm not so much talking about physical threat, as I'm speaking of spiritual threats.
If you speak the Word Jesus guarantees that you will be attacked. A koma or stupor induced by what Jesus called the hypocrites--speakers, singers or instrument players.
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November 4th, 2016, 9:39 pm #7

The Kairos church Planting movement intends to REPLACE your congregation with the most ancient Paganism: Kairos or Hermes is the god of thieves and liars.

http://www.piney.com/Kairos.Church.Planting.Plot.html

Dianna is reading an old CM post where the word Katanysxis is used. We are both researching and I have looked at a few verses where the word is used.

as it is written: "God gave them a spirit OF STUPOR, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day." Ro.11:8

Katanucis (g2659) kat-an'-oox-is; from 2660; a prickling (sensation, as of the limbs asleep), i.e. (by impl. [perh. by some confusion with 3506 or even with 3571]) stupor (lethargy): - slumber.

Katanusso (g2660) kat-an-oos'-so; from 2596 and 3572; to pierce thoroughly, i.e. (fig.)<b> to agitate violently ("sting to the quick"): - prick.


ALL religious observations TO WHICH THE KINGDOM DOES NOT COME depends on inducing a KOMA to AMBUSH you and drag you off to Sodom or Babylon.

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Beginning in 1984 one century from the Instrumental attack in 1874 to say that most of the time, money and energy has been spent on worship services. "Church is only concerned with worship" was the widely adopted theme as the Purpose Driving the Nashville Jubilee following the Pope's call for Jubilee 2,000. Whatever the topic -- Exodus, Judges, Revelation etal-- the AGENDA was to try to follow the lead of the NACC to transistion all churches of Christ into the Instrumental Sect.

No one seems interested in studying the Scriptures without any hidden agenda. However, that is God's Purpose and the timing was perfect and more violent than any of us expected to experience.

Stupor, Koma, Perturbo is always PROPHESIED by the Spirit OF Christ and made more certain by Jesus and left for our memory by the Apostles. The WEAPON is always some form of Rhetoric, Singing or Playing instruments. These are the HYPOCRITES named when Jesus quoted Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33.

The most STUNNING mark is C. Leonard Allen saying that God is ECSTATIC or out of His Mind.

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November 5th, 2016, 3:53 pm #8

The Kairos church Planting movement intends to REPLACE your congregation with the most ancient Paganism: Kairos or Hermes is the god of thieves and liars.

http://www.piney.com/Kairos.Church.Planting.Plot.html

Dianna is reading an old CM post where the word Katanysxis is used. We are both researching and I have looked at a few verses where the word is used.

as it is written: "God gave them a spirit OF STUPOR, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day." Ro.11:8

Katanucis (g2659) kat-an'-oox-is; from 2660; a prickling (sensation, as of the limbs asleep), i.e. (by impl. [perh. by some confusion with 3506 or even with 3571]) stupor (lethargy): - slumber.

Katanusso (g2660) kat-an-oos'-so; from 2596 and 3572; to pierce thoroughly, i.e. (fig.)<b> to agitate violently ("sting to the quick"): - prick.


ALL religious observations TO WHICH THE KINGDOM DOES NOT COME depends on inducing a KOMA to AMBUSH you and drag you off to Sodom or Babylon.

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Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites: He quotes Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33 to MARK self-serving preachers, singers or instrument players. They were God's mark of those who WOULD NOT either prech or teach the Word.

The Spirit OF Christ warns everyone to be amazed with SHOCK AND AWE by people who are DRUNKEN but not with wine or strong drink.

While the theologians use Ephesians 5 to say that God commanded THEM to impose musical instruments and make "worship SHOCK AND AWE", Paul was speaking of those who "got drunk on wine in the Dionysia with singing and other WRATH or orgies.

It was particularly Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great, who spread the wild orgies [WRATH] of the women who worshiped Dionysus in Macedonia (see Plutarch Lives, Alexander 2. 5–6; and Wilamowitz-Moellendorf, Der Glaube, 2:61–62).

The Dionysian Background of Ephesians 5:18 Cleon L. Rogers, Jr.

The name "Dionysus" signifies "son of Zeus". The worship of Dionysus spread throughout Asia Minor, Macedonia, Greece, Italy, Egypt, Palestine, and even remote India (Cleon L. Rogers, Jr, "The Dionysian Background of Ephesians 5:18", Bibliotheca Sacra, July-September 1979, pp 250,251).

The city of Ephesus itself was filled with the worship, not only of Diana (or Artemis), but also of Dionysus -- according to the ancient historian Plutarch.

The cult of Dionysus was so widespread and common that anything having to do with grapes or wine was at once connected in the popular mind with the worship of the wine-god. To talk of wine and drinking immediately brought Dionysian expressions into the conversation, and to live a riotous, wanton, debauched life was characterized as being a "Dionysian" (Ibid, p 253). Witness also the English "bacchanalian", from Bacchus. JB Norris speaks of the social gatherings of the heathen, "where idolatrous rites were practised and the singing waxed merry and lewd" (FCE 123,124).

As with the worship of Diana, that of Dionysus was heavily sexual. This worship, like. the nature religions of the Canaanites, with emphasis on pornographic images and vulgar songs, <font color="#FF0000">was supposed to please the god so that he would grant to his devotees the gifts of health and fertility
(Jonathan Goldstein, I Maccabees, The Anchor Bible, p 133).


Praise songs are usually erotic and Jeff Walling want to sit in the lap of God and dance with Him.. The ""androgynous worship leader" is an affront and causes masses to flee.

“Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess, but be ye filled with the Spirit” (Eph 5:18, AV). The word translated “excess” basically means “without health,” or “incurable.” The word then refers to “one who by his manner of life, especially by dissipation destroys himself.”41 After discussing the various uses of the word, especially in the New Testament, Foerster concludes, “In all these passages the word signifies wild and disorderly rather than extravagant or voluptuous living.” Though not limited to Dionysian practices, this is certainly a fitting and descriptive term to describe the behavior of Dionysian worshipers. There was no salvation in being filled with the spirit of Dionysus; only wild behavior accompanied such filling. It seems significant that the things Paul wrote about in Ephesians 5:19–33 have to do with some matters which played a vital part in the Dionysian worship. First, there is the mention of singing (v. 19). This is the singing of spiritual songs to the Lord Himself, not the raving of drunken worshipers singing the praises of Dionysus. Second, there is the giving of thanks for all things (v. 20)


Carol Wimber and the FULLER EFFECT as New Wineskins and performing women.

http://www.piney.com/VineyardIntimacy.html

He visits his people with manifestations of the Holy Spirit. "Thus worship has a two-fold aspect: communication with God through the basic means of singing and praying, and communication from God though teaching and preaching the word, prophecy, exhortation, etc. We lift him up and exalt him, and as a result are drawn into his presence where he speaks to us."

The fourth phase is described as "God Visits His People when "Expression then moves to a zenith, a climactic point, not unlike physical lovemaking... We have expressed what is in our hearts and minds and bodies, and now it is time to wait for God to respond.
Stop talking and wait for Him to speak, to move. I call this, the fourth phase, visitation:


People boast about USING WOMEN in a visible-audible sense understanding that they will attract an audience. Paul in corrupting the Word and the Greeks called sophists (speakers for sale, singers or instrument players) prostitutes. The SHOCK AND AWE using music, instruments, clapping, shouting brings on wrath or an ORGY.

Those who lie about the MUSIC sowing of discord and lie about Paul and the WORD as the Spirit OF Christ are OF the World and they have no choice but to let the Locusts (Muses) cull them out.
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November 8th, 2016, 1:56 am #9

Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection. Ephesians 5

When Jesus marked the Scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites he quotes Isaiah 29. However, the same story is included in Ezekiel 33 where the hypocrites are names as self-authoring and entertaining preachers, singers and instrument players. They are DRUNKEN WITHOUT WINE. Paul explains how that was happening in Ephesus and why they should fill up with the WORD of God instead of being filled to EXCESS with Dionysus.

Eph. 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Excess defines the effect of the "getting drunk on wine" orgies (wrath) of Dionysus which was a real danger in Ephesus.

luxŭrĭo , B. Of style: “in qua (oratione),animals: wantonness, friskiness, frolicsomeness, riotous living, extravagance, profusion, luxury, excess:

The Command was to SPEAK that which is written for our learning (Romans 15)
AND ODE and PSALLO are in the heart which defines silent.

The word drunk or METHE means to be FULL of something and implies STUPOR or the inability to understand WORDS because of MUSIC. Even in the Symposium where the 'crooked race' used wine and the harp boy and flute girl to stimulate the wine drinking, if they needed to discuss anything they sent the boys and girls out. There are many proofs that musicians INTENDED to dumb down the audience so they could be fleeced.

Plutarch agrees with other history that the "god" of the Jews was Dionysus: they piped hoping to get Jesus to lament (sing) and dance while being initiated into the gay priesthood. When Jesus refused to bow down they murdered Him. Amos and Stephen along with much of the Old Testament NAMES the gods the Jews worshipped after God turned them over to worship the starry host.

The TRIGGER to the end time apostasy began with the New Wineskins Magazine and the Dionysus wineskins definition of a church able to STRETCH and contain all of the fermenting and changing world.

This is what Paul tried to prevent in Ephesus. THIS is what tyrants impose in legalistic Worship Services fleecing the widows to pay THEIR staff.

Plutarch Marcus Antonius:

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November 14th, 2016, 3:30 am #10

"Hebrew music... was used in the luxurious times of the later monarchy the effeminate gallants of israel, reeking with perfumes, and stretched upon their couches of ivory, were wont at their banquets to accompany the song with the tinkling of the psaltery or guitar (Am. v1. 4-6), and amused themselves with devising musical instruments while their nation was perishing... music was the legitimate expression of mirth and gladness, and the indication of peace and prosperity." (Smith's, Music, p. 590).

"That chant to the voice of the lyre, accompanying the voice of the lyre with the human voice, giving vocal expression and utterance to what the instrumental music spoke without words. The word, which Amos alone uses in this one place, describing probably 'a hurried flow of unmeaning, unconsidered words, in which the rhythm of words and music was everything, the sense, nothing; much like most glees. The E.M. 'quaver' has also some foundation in the root, but does not suit the idiom so well, which expresses that the act was something done to the voice of the lyre, accompanying the music, not altering the music itself." (Barnes, Albert, Amos, p. 303).

"And every improper sight and sound, to speak in a word, and every shameful sensation of licentiousness--which, in truth, is privation of sensation--must by all means be excluded; and we must be on our guard against whatever pleasure titillates eye and ear, and effeminates. For the various spells of the broken strains and plaintive numbers of the Carian muse corrupt men's morals, drawing to pertubation of mind, by the licentious and mischievous art of music." (Clement of Alexandria, Instructor, Eerdmans, p. 248)
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