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December 20th, 2014, 4:50 pm #1

BOT 090614 (Justice) has been recalled. This website will no longer be monitored. No further action required. Good day.
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December 24th, 2014, 9:39 pm #2

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]What's going on here? Does SBC have a forum? I know that you've quoted articles/messages from the Baptist site. There is no objection to that when the intent is to discuss doctrinal issues.

Although network54 provides an option for a forum to be non-monitored , CM is not likely to do that. There is a feature to identify who is currently online, but I think this requires one to have a permanent login ID with a password. This is an interesting feature.[/color]
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December 25th, 2014, 2:34 am #3

He said "Justice has been recalled." I wonder what kind of factory defect he had?

Maybe he has to go back and clean up the Obama mess?
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December 25th, 2014, 4:51 am #4

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Why didn't I think of that -- that a "recall" implies a removal or corrective measure due to a defective product?

Is it possible that an SBC doctrine was faulty and is being recalled from those who blindly accepted it?

Is it possible that the SBC site that was not so kind to its monitored posters is now "kinder and gentler" and is recalling those posters?

I'm hearing this: "Southern Baptist Convention Elects 36-Y-O 'Radical' David Platt as President of International Mission Board"

http://www.christianpost.com/news/south ... rd-125480/

The Barack Hussein's (Barry Soetoro) mess is out of control and beyond recovery.[/color]
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December 26th, 2014, 2:16 am #5

Here is what they believe about baptism: the rise or Radical Discipleship is an end-time panic of the Discipling Ministry: they only way to make disciples is to make them into a crossroats, ICOC Shepherding ministry. Their credo about Baptism proves the impossibility of the ECUMENICAL or World View to read and Speak like Jesus spoke.

Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. It is an act of obedience symbolizing

the BELIEVER's faith in a crucified, buried, and risen Saviour, the believer's death to sin, the burial of the old life, and the resurrection to walk in newness of life in Christ Jesus.

It is a testimony to his faith in the final resurrection of the dead.

Being a church ordinance, it is prerequisite to covenant of church membership.


1Pet. 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1Pet. 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer [REQUEST FOR] of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

We REQUEST A good conscience or consciousness which in Acts 2:38 is A holy spirit without which one cannot READ or HEAR the prophecy and fulfilment about baptism.

Baptism does not TESTIFY to your anything: Jesus Christ made baptism THE INSTRUMENTAL MEANS by which we REQUEST something: not proof that we are sanctified and SO HOLY that we SYMBOLIZE our goodness by being baptized. WITHOUT WHICH, they say "you will not be a member of THIS institution."

THE FAITH is the Faith of Jesus Christ. THE FAITH is contrasted to THE LAW or FLESH. Our faith rests on the evidence presented by God and believing that does not ADD one to the Church. We are "Washed with water INTO the WORD or into the School of Christ." Jesus does not accept people as disciples of HIM without any mediators just because they BELIEVE that Jesus is the FATHER'S Unique and Only Master Teacher.

Maybe he will correct that: it is reported that more than half of the SB believe that were are baptized FOR or in order to the remission of sins. John MacArthur noted that "it might be that Acts 2:38 means what it says."









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December 26th, 2014, 4:16 am #6

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]It is very interesting to me to note the report about the Baptists who believe that being buried with Christ in baptism is TOWARD the remission of sins -- a forward direction: in order for sins to be remitted. What a contrast that is to the doctrine that by faith (believing) one obtains salvation (is forgiven of sins) FIRST, then he is baptized later.

What about the "change agents" [preaching] in the church of Christ who hold that doctrine: "be saved by faith; be baptized later"?

Surprising, too, is John MacArthur on Acts 2:38 when he noted: "it MIGHT be that Acts 2:38 MEANS what it says."

But Acts 2:38 MEANS what it says. The Greek preposition "eis" which means "toward" (or "so that" or "in order to" or "unto") is the key to understanding the purpose of baptism. It is a forward (not retroactive) motion or direction.
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December 26th, 2014, 12:46 pm #7

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]What's going on here? Does SBC have a forum? I know that you've quoted articles/messages from the Baptist site. There is no objection to that when the intent is to discuss doctrinal issues.

Although network54 provides an option for a forum to be non-monitored , CM is not likely to do that. There is a feature to identify who is currently online, but I think this requires one to have a permanent login ID with a password. This is an interesting feature.[/color]

Just kids. Rural Alabama and party lines, some of you are old enough to remember.
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December 26th, 2014, 1:14 pm #8

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]It is very interesting to me to note the report about the Baptists who believe that being buried with Christ in baptism is TOWARD the remission of sins -- a forward direction: in order for sins to be remitted. What a contrast that is to the doctrine that by faith (believing) one obtains salvation (is forgiven of sins) FIRST, then he is baptized later.

What about the "change agents" [preaching] in the church of Christ who hold that doctrine: "be saved by faith; be baptized later"?

Surprising, too, is John MacArthur on Acts 2:38 when he noted: "it MIGHT be that Acts 2:38 MEANS what it says."

But Acts 2:38 MEANS what it says. The Greek preposition "eis" which means "toward" (or "so that" or "in order to" or "unto") is the key to understanding the purpose of baptism. It is a forward (not retroactive) motion or direction.
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Very close to what "we" believe.

http://www.madisonchurchtn.org/what-we-believe/
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December 27th, 2014, 5:10 am #9

[color=#0000FF" size="4" face="times]Just,

Madison's website must have copied its "What We Believe" page from a Baptist Church's website. Or, from a Community Church's site. We've discussed this quite extensively -- that the Madison eldership needs to clean up the "doctrine" page. Separating salvation (forgiveness of sins) from baptism is a serious doctrinal error.[/color]
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