Racnor
Racnor

March 20th, 2012, 9:47 pm #11

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible

Psalm 150
Laudate Dominum in sanctis. An exhortation to praise God with all sorts of instruments. Alleluia.

[1] Praise ye the Lord in his holy places: praise ye him in the firmament of his power. [2] Praise ye him for his mighty acts: praise ye him according to the multitude of his greatness. [3] Praise him with sound of trumpet: praise him with psaltery and harp. [4] Praise him with timbrel and choir: praise him with strings and organs. [5] Praise him on high sounding cymbals: praise him on cymbals of joy: let every spirit praise the Lord. Alleluia.


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March 20th, 2012, 10:22 pm #12

I forget: which congregation was that? And who was the singers? and Dancers?

Poems tend to be poetic # 150 is not a psalm but a Halal

And how about that Firmament?

David was King and His task was to threten the enemy into cowardice.

Don't forget to remember that the nation had been abandoned to worship the starry host. The Praise is not singing!

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Racnor
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March 20th, 2012, 10:30 pm #13


Psalm 150 is a psalm in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament. In it, the writer urges the congregation to praise God with music and dancing. The text, beloved by Jews and Christians alike, has often been set to music. The basic concept of this psalm is that there are a variety of ways one can praise God.


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March 21st, 2012, 3:12 am #14

After Max Lucado and his female change agent twisted all of the scriptures to seduce the elders into adding instruments, Max claimed that he had a vision which included taking the name of Christ off the public confession and adding instruments. A Baptist Publisher says that they told Max that he would have to reform. I don't know the facts.

However, Max hire himself a Baptist preacher for his church because he said he was more sympathetic to the Baptist view.

I'll bet all of those "investors" didn't know about the plan before they invested.

The Baptists pour more venom onto churches of Christ than any group but of course their scholars are saying they were wrong about baptism being BECAUSE they had been saved.

Lots of them identify the church of Christ as a CULT. I just invite the Baptists OR church of Christ church bandits to defend themselves. Because they are quite willing to bait and switch and sow massive among THEIR church, I might suggest as a starter.

Find one command,example or remote inference that any of God's people ever assembled for congregational singing with instrumental accompaniment.

If they are not willing to do that they might show how they can trump the Bible assigning the wind,string and percussion instruments to "Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute in the garden of Eden.
<em>Lots of them identify the church of Christ as a CULT. I just invite the Baptists OR church of Christ church bandits to defend themselves.</em>

To whom? They haven't done anything wrong except call you and those like you on their legalistic prejudices.
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March 21st, 2012, 4:11 am #15

Psalm 150 is a psalm in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament. In it, the writer urges the congregation to praise God with music and dancing. The text, beloved by Jews and Christians alike, has often been set to music. The basic concept of this psalm is that there are a variety of ways one can praise God.


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I think it is far more wise to rely on the New Testament's directives for Christian praise to God--with our voices in song--and not on what is written in the Old Testament or in Wikipedia.
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March 21st, 2012, 4:27 am #16

Psalm 150 is a psalm in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament. In it, the writer urges the congregation to praise God with music and dancing. The text, beloved by Jews and Christians alike, has often been set to music. The basic concept of this psalm is that there are a variety of ways one can praise God.


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[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Psalm 23 is a psalm:[/color]
"The LORD is my shepherd; ... He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake ... and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever."
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Psalm 150 is a poem in the Book of Psalms. A poem directly expresses the individual emotions of the poet:[/color]
Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp. Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs. Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Has anyone ever bothered to write music notes to Psalm 150 ... and then let your denomination's congregants sing it with the accompaniment of the musical instruments listed in the poem?

And the listed instruments to be played are:

-- Trumpet
-- Psaltery
-- Harp
-- Timbrel
-- Stringed instruments
-- Organs
-- Loud cymbals
-- High sounding cymbals

And let's not forget:

-- Dancing[/color]
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Dave
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March 21st, 2012, 11:23 am #17

Brian L. Hedrick Baptist Biblical Foundations for Instrumental Music In Worship

http://www.piney.com/Brian.L.Hedrick.Ba ... rship.html

Brian L Hedrick builds his foundation for instrumental music on four pillars. Each of these pillars seems--like those in churches of Christ--are pulled out of a topical Bible because there is never any evidence that he has read any of the clearstory.

His first pillar includes Charles Spurgeon who denounces the use of instruments in no uncertain terms and affirms that this is the view of all of the church fathers.

In time I will look at the other pillars.

Brian and the Baptists do not know that the Baptists split over the introductions on the same grounds that the Church of Christ continued to NOT DO what it had NEVER DONE. As late as the turn of the 20th century they were still dividing.
Donnie Cruz asked "Has anyone ever bothered to write music notes to Psalm 150 ... and then let your denomination's congregants sing it with the accompaniment of the musical instruments listed in the poem?"

...THAT type of fallible and unrealistic reasoning/interrogation is why concerned members drives people away so easily. This is the same man who admitted that there are members of his own congregation who has trouble with his ways and this website....and he said that he knows and doesn't care.
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March 21st, 2012, 12:40 pm #18

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Such an unrealistic but logical reasoning may drive anti-church of Christ, change agents-loving followers away from CM. But the readership has remained steadily and many times has increased.

Dave, you are a musician (and an elder of a non-instrumental congregation). Why don't you give it a try? You can very easily do that -- write the musical notes to the Psalm 150 poetry without missing a single musical instrument from the list. If the list of instruments is not good enough, you can add a few more from Daniel 3 -- cornet, flute, harp, sackbut. But you may not include the guitar and piano as they are not in the Scripture. [/color]
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March 21st, 2012, 2:17 pm #19

Psalm 23 has been set to music in modern times. So has the Lord's Prayer. Both can be easily sung without instrumental accompaniment. Yet no one today that I know of has set Psalm 150 to music. If singing it with instruments was so important in David's time, there apparently is no oral tradition extant about how to play it. Perhaps that is a way of letting us know that Psalm 150 should be read simply as a historical poem of a former era.
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March 21st, 2012, 2:54 pm #20

Brian L. Hedrick Baptist Biblical Foundations for Instrumental Music In Worship

http://www.piney.com/Brian.L.Hedrick.Ba ... rship.html

Brian L Hedrick builds his foundation for instrumental music on four pillars. Each of these pillars seems--like those in churches of Christ--are pulled out of a topical Bible because there is never any evidence that he has read any of the clearstory.

His first pillar includes Charles Spurgeon who denounces the use of instruments in no uncertain terms and affirms that this is the view of all of the church fathers.

In time I will look at the other pillars.

Brian and the Baptists do not know that the Baptists split over the introductions on the same grounds that the Church of Christ continued to NOT DO what it had NEVER DONE. As late as the turn of the 20th century they were still dividing.
It's time to move on. Farewell to all.
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