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One major definition of BEAST is "a new style of song or drama." The word beast is not an animal but points to the HUNTING AFTER male youths even attributed to Nimrod. Another sign of the MARK is the one Zeus left on the rear of Ganymede. Those proof texts the instrumentalists use points to males plucking the harp and declaring that--as dogs--they only bit their friends.Psalm 98
1 Sing to the LORD a new song,
for he has done marvelous things;
his right hand and his holy arm
have worked salvation for him.
2 The LORD has made his salvation known
and revealed his righteousness to the nations.
3 He has remembered his love
and his faithfulness to the house of Israel;
all the ends of the earth have seen
the salvation of our God.
4 Shout for joy to the LORD, all the earth,
burst into jubilant song with music;
5 make music to the LORD with the harp,
with the harp and the sound of singing,
6 with trumpets and the blast of the ram's horn
shout for joy before the LORD, the King.
7 Let the sea resound, and everything in it,
the world, and all who live in it.
8 Let the rivers clap their hands,
Let the mountains sing together for joy; 9 let them sing before the LORD,
for he comes to judge the earth.
He will judge the world in righteousness
and the peoples with equity.
1 Sing joyfully to the LORD, you righteous;
it is fitting for the upright to praise him.
2 Praise the LORD with the harp;
make music to him on the ten-stringed lyre.
3 Sing to him a new song;
play skillfully, and shout for joy.
1 Praise the LORD.
Sing to the LORD a new song,
his praise in the assembly of the saints.
2 Let Israel rejoice in their Maker;
let the people of Zion be glad in their King.
3 Let them praise his name with dancing
and make music to him with tambourine and harp.
I find it very revealing that the one who believes God loves instrumental music uses God's inspired and authorized Word to support their belief. The one who condemns instrumental music relies on pagan, godless mythology to support their belief.[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]No. Of course, not. But the book of Psalms is not a belief system. So, it does not contradict any belief system. Simply put, it has its own place in the literary and history as a book in the Bible. It cannot be discarded any more than the books of Proverbs, Job, Song of Solomon, the Chronicles and others.
If you have researched the answer to the question posed earlier, please let us know what you've found out. The Bible has revealed as to who ORDAINED musical instruments. There is only one correct answer to the question.[/color]
Dr. Crump,God's Word says, "And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe" (Exodus 21:23-25 KJV). A lot of people live by those words.
Yet Jesus said, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" (Matt. 5:43-44 KJV).
So which directive are people to follow: God's directive in Exodus, in which you basically repay your enemy with the same evil that he does to you, or do you follow Jesus' directive in the New Testament, which tells us to repay our enemies with good?
God's Word in Chronicles and Psalms mention musical instruments, whereas in the New Testament, God's Word mentions nothing about them in Christian worship on earth. And we are further told NOT to add to or take from God's Word. The principles stated in Rev. 22:18-19 apply not only to Revelation but to ALL of the New Testament as well.
The religious rituals mentioned in the Chronicles and Psalms all fall under the Law of Moses, which Christians today are not to observe (Col. 2:14). So instead of asking if we live by mythology, ask which Covenant or Law Christians are to observe: the Law of Moses or the Law of Christ (Romans 8:2).
When Christ died, He took all of the religious rituals of the Mosaic Law with Him to the cross--not some of them to appease future Christians who wanted to retain instrumental music--but ALL of them. Otherwise, we would still be observing hundreds of other laws in the Mosaic system. You cannot choose to retain observances that were part of the Mosaic system, such as instrumental music, and carry them into Christianity without observing ALL of the Mosaic Law. I will reiterate what Paul said in Gal. 5:1-6: being justified by any part of the Mosaic Law makes a person a debtor to observe ALL of the Mosaic Law and, hence, makes Christ of no effect. What Paul is saying is that you can't serve two Covenants: the Law of Moses and the Law of Christ. You can't select IM from the Mosaic Law and mix it with the Law of Christ, just as you can't select burnt offerings from the Mosaic Law and mix them with the Law of Christ. It's similar to Jesus' admonition that you can't serve two masters: God and mammon. Choose which ONE Covenant you will serve and drop the other one.Anyone who uses the sin tainted theory of 'if we praise God today with musical instruments based on the Old Testament, then we have to offer animal sacrifices' will continue to spit in our Lord's Face. Why? Because that person believes that Jesus Christ is not a good enough sacrifice to cover man's sins. They are saying that one goes with the other (if you accept insturmental music from the OT then you have to accept animal sacrifices). That is a lie. What does the New Testament say about David?
22After removing Saul, he made David their king. He testified concerning him: 'I have found David son of Jesse a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.'
David wanted to please God with all of his talents and ability. Did God ever criticize David for playing musical instruments? No. God let David know when he had sinned with adultery and murder. Did God do the same for when David used the instruments of music to praise Him? No!
Would God have allowed those praises, in Psalms, if He were displeased with David?
If you throw out the Psalms and ASSUME that God didn't authorize insturmental musical, then you make vain all of the Old Testament.
EVERYONE KNOWS that all of the animal sacrifices were done away when Jesus came to be the Perfect Sacrifice. The same CANNOT be said for the use of instrumental music in the Old Testament. That is someone trying to hold on to a tradition so bad and so hard that they would warp and distort the very Word of God.
It is a pathetic attempt, indeed, at holding on to any tradition. God does not and has not made instrumental music sinful in either the Old or New Testament. Only man has done so. That is called adding to the Word of God, and he/she will be held accountable in the end for such.
"Hezekiah then stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, with harps and with lyres, according to the command of David and of Gad the king's seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for the command was from the LORD through His prophets." (2 Chronicles 29:25)One major definition of BEAST is "a new style of song or drama." The word beast is not an animal but points to the HUNTING AFTER male youths even attributed to Nimrod. Another sign of the MARK is the one Zeus left on the rear of Ganymede. Those proof texts the instrumentalists use points to males plucking the harp and declaring that--as dogs--they only bit their friends.
PAUL REPEATS THE WARNING OF JESUS
Eph 2:1 AND you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past YE walked
according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air,
the SPIRIT that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
They shout from the pulpits that they are not bound by the commands of Father or Son because A spirit tells them that all of the CONDEMNATION of hypocritic arts and crafts is NOW God's Direct Command. And you go to Tulsa and believe. You know, a lying wonder defines all of the things you love when you see the Great Demonstration calculated to joke while they steal your souls.
WORKS: the ONLY word for LEGALISM in the Greek literature is the MUSICAL teaching of the Laws of Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon).
Nomos I. anything assigned, a usage, custom, law, ordinance,
II. a musical mode or strain, Aesch., Plat., etc.; nomoi kithardikoi.
2. a song sung in honour of some god, Hdt.; nomoi polemikoi war- tunes
The NOMOS of Athens was SOPHIA-ZOE which is opposed to the JEHOVAH-LOGOS.
The NOMOS of Sophia-Zoe encouraged love for young boys: maybe that is why all of the PROOFT texts for the plucking word points to older males collecting young males who were the youth ministers or priests of Cyble Paul warned about hoping they would let the knife slip.Why do you suppose that people on the unlawful dole (more than teaching that which has been taught) get so nasty when they cannot find a jot or tittle to support them AFTER they have decided that they operate on the LAW OF SILENCE which means MAKE NOISE they think is music.
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Ray,Dr. Crump,
I appreciate your response. However, you do realize that your position is at odds with the mythology that Ken endorses and Donnie appears to agree with, and contend that God has NEVER authorized instrumental music.
I am sure you agree with the accredited Biblical scholars, including those who oppose use of intrumental music in the church today, who have concluded based on evidence in God's word itself that God did authorize instrumental music in the Old Testament, and God did inspire Psalms that could be sung with instrumental music, and endorsed praise to God with instrumental music.
I suspect from your reply that you do not believe God has authorized instrumentla music in the New Testament worship. But my point is that Ken and Donnie have gone beyond what is written in God's Word when they claim, contrary to the written evidence in God's Word, that God has not authorized instrumental music anywhere. And they use mythology to support their beliefs rather than using God's word.
If you support Ken and Donnie in this obvious error, what other errors and misuse of God's word are you willing to accept?
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Ray,I find it very revealing that the one who believes God loves instrumental music uses God's inspired and authorized Word to support their belief. The one who condemns instrumental music relies on pagan, godless mythology to support their belief.
In answer to the question, what does God's word say?
"Hezekiah then stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, with harps and with lyres, according to the command of David and of Gad the king's seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for the command was from the LORD through His prophets." (2 Chronicles 29:25)
31 Psalms either include instruments in their inpired title (and according to Barnes, ALL ancient Hebrew manuscripts include the titles of the Psalms) or within their inspired texts.
You may disagree over whether instrumental music should continue in the New Testament worship or not, but you cannot deny the above Word of God (unless, of course, you live by mythology rather than God's word).
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Ken,"Hezekiah then stationed the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, with harps and with lyres, according to the command of David and of Gad the king's seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for the command was from the LORD through His prophets." (2 Chronicles 29:25)
Hezekiah was a KING and the Levites were under the KING and the COMMANDERS OF THE ARMY.'"
The Levites were an old Infant Burning Cult from Egypt and their father in Isaiah 49 commanded you NOT to attend the "assemblies of the tribe of Levi."
Christ in the prophets DENY that animal sacrifices were commanded by God: they were IMPOSED because of musical idolatry which is perfectly clear to any reader of the context.
The 'congregation' is DEFINED as the Civil-Military-Priestly cult and they had been ABANDONED to worship the starry host ONLY within the walls of Jerusalem. The people were OUSTED by the loud sounds NEVER called music by God Who abandoned them.
The godly congregation was to attend Holy Convocation even as the church of Christ in the wilderness.
They were commanded to REST on the sabbath and not WORSHIP. They were restricted to their area and READ and REHEARSED the word of God. The church or synagogue is a SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE.
The CHURCH was commanded NOT to tolerate "vocal or instrumental rejoicing." That never changed by assuming any Bible authority before the Disciples in 1878 where they dredged up the PSALLO word which speaks of BOWS AND LYRES to shoot arrows or shoot "love arrows" into your friend.
If you read 2 Chronicles 29 you will read CLEARLY
1. The Levites were command to stand IN RANKS with their instruments. They were not commanded to PLAY.
"Hezekiah then STATIONED the Levites in the house of the LORD with cymbals, with harps and with lyres, according to the command of David and of Gad the king's seer, and of Nathan the prophet; for the command was from the LORD through His prophets." (2 Chronicles 29:25)PLAGUE STOPPING EXORCISM. NOT a congregational assembly.
2Chr. 29:26 And the Levites stood with the instruments of David,
and the priests with the trumpets. [Commanded by Moses A prophet]
CONDUCTING THE HOLOCAUST PROVES THAT DAVID COMMANDED THE INSTRUMENTS
2Chr. 29:27 And Hezekiah commanded
to offer the burnt offering upon the altar.
And when the burnt offering began,
....the song of the LORD began also with the TRUMPETS
....and with the INSTRUMENTS ORDAINED by David king of Israel.
Burning GOATS is not called a Congregational worship: God calls it PROFANING THE SABBATH which word translates blow the flute, steal another's inheritance, pollute or prostitute: it also defines "Lucifer cast as profane out of heaven."
No psalms were ever sung in congregational worship services with or without instruments.
Strong delusions prevents people FROM being able to read the Text: the MARK of Lying Wonders is singing and playing or performing as a speaker or actor: Jesus called the speakers, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33 HYPOCRITES.
There is NO congregational worship services in the Old Testament: the Godly people attended synagogue as a SCHOOL OF THE WORD. The Campbells being Bible readerd defined:
Church is A School of Christ
Worship is Reading and Musing the Word.
Music in fact means "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter" and I say that both the WOLVES (boy lovers) and the Lambs are equally unable to read the text.