People are forced to blaspheme the Spirit of Christ in all of the prophets: Christ repudiates all of the PATTERNISM people use to COMMAND people to participate in what they call instrumental worship of GET OUT. Planning to lose up to half of the owners in order to make the bait and switch falls easily within the postmodern ethics. They say "we gonna take your church house and turn it into a theater for holy entertainment 'cause we gonna save more souls." All recorded history connects religious music to sorcery as did John in Revelation 18. People can easily ignore that and the REST of the Bible because they HEAR spirits and I don't doubt it a bit. However, John identifies sorcerers with dogs (catamites) for whom the lake of fire was created.
1. David Faust from the NACC has convinced a few dupes:
A . In the Old Testament the Lord didn't merely "permit" the use of musical instruments as aids to worship.
He commanded their use.
B. In the old Testament the Lord didn't merely "permit' the use of musical instruments as aids to worship.
He blessed their use.
One example 300 years after the last plague stopping exorcism is THEIR patternism: their patternists had been ABANDONED to worship the starry host (at the temple) and there was NO REDEMPTION.
2. However, They say the LORD SAID when Christ in the prophets said the LORD HAS NOT SAID.
They follow the Lying Pen of the Scribes and blaspheme CENI.
Jer. 8:7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times;
and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming;
but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.
Jer. 8:8 How do ye say, We are WISE,
and the law of the LORD is WITH US?
LO, CERTAINLY IN VAIN MADE HE IT;
THE PEN OF THE SCRIBES IS in vain.
Who are the WISE Jesus said the Father HIDES HIMSELF?
WISE IS: Sophos A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, mostly of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kithara s. E.IT1238 (lyr.), cf. Ar.Ra.896
Sophis-teia , h(, A. sophistry, D.S.12.53, Plu.2.78f, D.L.2.113, etc.; opp. sophia, Ph.1.10; s. mantik, of Balaam
Sophis-tês , ou, ho, master of one's craft, adept panu thaumaston legeis s (lying wonderful speaker)
with modal words added, hoi s. tn hiern meln (Melody in a holy place)
That would get the Levite PATTERNISTS executed.
II. from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one who gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics, mathematics, for money,
That is CORRUPTING THE WORD: selling learning at retail. How can they sell the FREE Word (Isa 55) when Christ outlawed speaking THEIR OWN WORDS (Isa 58)?: Paul said of the Corinthians that "fools love to be fooled."
The Lying Pen of the Scribes do not speak to the Godly people
Mendax II. Transf., of inanim, and abstr. things, lying, false, deceptive; feigned, ficti</b>tious, <b>counterfeit, not real, etc. a liar should have a good memory,
Recorded history ranks "poetry and music" with lying: outlawed by the command to SPEAK.
Scrba , ae, m. scribo, I. a public or official writer, a clerk, secretary, scribe (whereas librarius or scriba librarius denotes a private secretary or amanuensis;
2. (Eccl. Lat.) A doctor of the Jewish law, one whose duty it was to guard and expound the sacred text, Vulg. 2 Reg. 8, 17; id. Matt. 23, 2 et saep.
Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers!
for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered.
Music from mystery MEANS to "make the lambs dumb before the slaugher." It certainly works, doesn't it? ::clappingoverhead::
Jesus called the Scribes (doctors) and Pharisees, Hypocrites: in the Ezekiel 33 version Christ listed slick preachers, singers and instrument players.
How can they get away repeating the Lying Pen of the Scribes? In the words of Paul "Fools love to be fooled: the more they pay the better the fooled."
3. Claiming that God has said, When God has NOT said Is defined by Christ as blasphemy.
In another forum on the word INFALLIBLE, the problem with Missionaries in strange places seems to justify violating the direct command to READ the word and the direct command against Private interpretation of further expounding. It is a fact that with the Bible many groups have read themselves into the truth without someone to ENHANCE the Word of God in song and sermon.
The only way to be INFALLIBLE is that everyone SPEAK THE SAME THINGS which means SPEAK THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN (Rom 15 and the NOT-musical passages.)
Rom. 15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak,
......and not to please ourselves.
Areskos or Placeo outlaws rhetoric, singing, acting or playing instruments.
Rom. 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
Edification here means ONLY education: no human can supply a jot or tittle..
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,
This is the only resource both inclusive and exclusive.
......that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Rom. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit:
......and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
No: all you are authorized to do is to READ it and let the words stand. The NAME of Father, Son, and Spirit (thought, breath, word) is Jesus Christ.
The NAME of the another COMFORTER (parakltos)
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, (parakltos)
......that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you
1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin,
......we have an advocate (parakltos) with the Father,
......Jesus Christ the righteous:
The only person guided by The Holy Spirit is guided by Christ the Spirit who claimed that "My words are Spirit and Life." The Spirit OF Christ is the Mind of Christ (1 Cor 2). The Spirit of Christ rides along with the Words of Christ.
In Romans 15 where SELF-pleasure outlaws all of the performing arts, and commands using "one mind and one mouth" to deliver "that which is written." Paul calls that "Scripture." If you are in the jungle you MUST have a valid translation: you cannot invent doctrine.
Eph. 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him,
......and have been taught by him,
......as the truth is in Jesus: that's the Spirit OF truth
Col. 2:7 Rooted and built up in him,
......and stablished in the faith,
......as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
2Th. 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast,
......and hold the traditions which ye have been taught,
......whether by word, or our epistle.
1Tim. 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to (public) reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught,
......that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers,
......specially they of the circumcision
IF YOU ARE IN FELLOWSHIP WITH THOSE WHO TEACH ERROR THEN RE-READ THE BLASPHEMY THREAD
Convince Elegkho cross-examine, question, disgrace, put to shame, muthon e. treat a speech with contempt, Il.9.522; e. tina put one to shame, Od. 21.424
2. test, bring to the proof, bring convincing proof, refute, confute, bring convincing proof, b. put right, correct, prove by a reductio ad impossibile, 5. get the better of,
6. expose, tina lrounta Pl.Tht.171d, cf. X.Mem.1.7.2, M.Ant.1.17; betray a weakness, Democr.222. Plat. Theaet. 171d Xen. Mem. 1.7.2
The word CONVINCE does not mean to sermonize and counsel endlessly but to REFUTE HIM and DISQUALIFY him. Claiming to fellowship all kinds of error is really arrogance.
In the Qahal or Synagogue or Ekklesia words which define the ASSEMBLY no one was permitted to make up the subject material to be presented: that came from a higher authority. If anyone tries to sing with our without instruments in either they would be hurt really bad. Rhetoricians occassionaly got loose in the Greek ekklesia to present their own veiws but were all frepudiated.
The Campbells defined:
Church is A School of Christ (that's what disciples of Christ do--ONLY)
Worship is reading and musing the Word: (that's what diciples of Christ do)
The pattern for the Church in the Wilderness and exampled by Jesus was:
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,