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May 21st, 2011, 4:32 pm #11

I have edited the Isaiah.Amos table to include Jeremiah 7:22-23 to prove that God didn't command the sacrifices: they came along with God turning them over to worship the starry host. The "noise" was a burden or curse imposed on the tribe of Levi warned against by Jacob in Genesis 49: Moses leaps ahead to totally negate everything between the curse at Mount Sinai and the coming of Jesus out of the tribe of Judah. And yet, the leaders of the wolf pack stand up before God and the "flock" and tell them that God COMMANDED instrumental praise and to NOT do it would be disobedience. This is the affliction heaped on by the NACC who found a few dupes to lead a "unity movement." All of those who have added "Worship Teams" follow the same Judas Goat but don't have the nerve to "go all of the way."

Nothing could be clearer from an honest reader of the Bible is that there was a CIVIL-MILITARY-CLERGY complex used by God to carry the burden of the worship of the starry host, and an ekklesia or synagogue assembly for LEARNING ONLY for the godly people quarantined from the Holocaust hidden behind walls. Didn't Jesus call them hypocrites--rhetoricians, singers, instrument players--and HID Himself from the WISE and Jesus didn't even pray for the WORLD all of the MARKED groups squander the widow's living to attract.
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May 22nd, 2011, 12:20 am #12

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Ken,

I have edited "Wide Images" that I posted earlier. Please review. Thanks!

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By reading the whole thought pattern you will save yourself lots of pain and not lead the lambs into the wolf den. Inspired writers "fully expound" what they mean to prevent us from private interpretation or further expounding. That is called corrupting the Word like the Scribes and Pharisees to "sell learning at retail.


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May 22nd, 2011, 12:48 am #13

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May 22nd, 2011, 12:59 am #14

The problem with defending or enabling the message of a false prophet for profit is a very fatal problem. You cannot be a chatty kathy and be so wrong.

The problem false prophets or false teachers (2 Peter1-1) is that you destroy the REST Jesus died to give us and you may cause the weak minded to do something destructive. This is so serious that the universal message of the Bible is the YOUR thoughts are not GOD'S thoughts and YOU are bound to teach that which is written AS it is written.

Any literate person should be anxious to see how these patterns of folly have played out in every generation.

My forestry guy estimated $900.00 for clean up: that's p;retty close to the end of the world.
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May 22nd, 2011, 4:17 am #15

By reading the whole thought pattern you will save yourself lots of pain and not lead the lambs into the wolf den. Inspired writers "fully expound" what they mean to prevent us from private interpretation or further expounding. That is called corrupting the Word like the Scribes and Pharisees to "sell learning at retail.


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May 22nd, 2011, 4:25 am #16

If they could make it May 10 I would not have to celebrate wedding 54, wife's birthday, mother's day, kids and dogs.

Interestingly, their prophet uses 2 Peter 3 as a primary key to the end of the world. So, I did a quick study of 2 Peters 3

The Grace-Centered Magazine referenced advertisement reads:

"About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.

Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar)


It so happens that 2 Peter 1 defines the left memory of the eye--and ear witness of Jesus Christ by the Apostles. Only the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies made more perfect is the foundation upon which the church is built. That excludes that which is not written for our learning.

2Peter 2 defines false teachers as anyone who does not teach the Christ-inspired text: it also excludes all of the hypocritic arts: rhetoricians, singers, instrument players, actors.

If 2 Peter 3 defines May 21 as the end of the World then it also defines the MARKS in sight and sound of the destruction of the deceivers as the same musical and theatrical performers. Music from mystery MEANS "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

The group or Commune all singing the same thing with music is THE way to deceive people: they are forced to confess that which is NOT "that which is written for our learning."

http://www.piney.com/2.Peter.3.End.Time.Mockers.html

Strange, that GCMF has a thread for the Church of Christ which is controlled by someone not bright: Larry? Johnbp who mocks all of the Biblical data used by the historic church to identify the church as qahal, synagogue, ekklesia as a school of the Bible only. How can there be grace when people work really hard to get people to compose their own songs and sermons while accepting a wage for "teaching the Word of Christ?"



As far as I know people read Ephesians 5 like an "unknown tongue." The theology is that Paul said, "Now, don't get EXCESSIVELY drunk before you speak the Biblical text. In the Greek literature getting drunk on wine was equivalent to getting drunk on passion or pride: music was always believed to be much m

In outlawing "wine" Paul was outlawing anything likely to be produced by drinking wine in a tavern. Drunks sing, dance, clap, play instruments and play with one another. Any in-depth reading of the Bible beginning in the Garden and ending with the Babylon mother of harlots (Rev 17) who uses the lusted after fruits (same as in Amos). They are rhetoricians, singers, instrument players or any of the CRAFTSMANSHIP required to keep a modern mega-church-tower of Babylon from tottering are called SORCERERS. Christ called them hypocrites.

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Any one who can define "disciple" or "ekklesia" will have not problem grasping that.
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May 22nd, 2011, 6:40 am #17

If they could make it May 10 I would not have to celebrate wedding 54, wife's birthday, mother's day, kids and dogs.

Interestingly, their prophet uses 2 Peter 3 as a primary key to the end of the world. So, I did a quick study of 2 Peters 3

The Grace-Centered Magazine referenced advertisement reads:

"About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.

Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar)


It so happens that 2 Peter 1 defines the left memory of the eye--and ear witness of Jesus Christ by the Apostles. Only the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies made more perfect is the foundation upon which the church is built. That excludes that which is not written for our learning.

2Peter 2 defines false teachers as anyone who does not teach the Christ-inspired text: it also excludes all of the hypocritic arts: rhetoricians, singers, instrument players, actors.

If 2 Peter 3 defines May 21 as the end of the World then it also defines the MARKS in sight and sound of the destruction of the deceivers as the same musical and theatrical performers. Music from mystery MEANS "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

The group or Commune all singing the same thing with music is THE way to deceive people: they are forced to confess that which is NOT "that which is written for our learning."

http://www.piney.com/2.Peter.3.End.Time.Mockers.html

Strange, that GCMF has a thread for the Church of Christ which is controlled by someone not bright: Larry? Johnbp who mocks all of the Biblical data used by the historic church to identify the church as qahal, synagogue, ekklesia as a school of the Bible only. How can there be grace when people work really hard to get people to compose their own songs and sermons while accepting a wage for "teaching the Word of Christ?"



[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]So, what's happened to GCM's advertisement (and endorsement) of the Worldwide Family Radio's doctrine:
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JUDGMENT DAY

THE END OF THE WORLD IS ALMOST HERE!
HOLY GOD WILL BRING JUDGMENT DAY
ON
MAY 21, 2011
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May 23rd, 2011, 6:43 pm #18

If they could make it May 10 I would not have to celebrate wedding 54, wife's birthday, mother's day, kids and dogs.

Interestingly, their prophet uses 2 Peter 3 as a primary key to the end of the world. So, I did a quick study of 2 Peters 3

The Grace-Centered Magazine referenced advertisement reads:

"About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.

Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar)


It so happens that 2 Peter 1 defines the left memory of the eye--and ear witness of Jesus Christ by the Apostles. Only the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies made more perfect is the foundation upon which the church is built. That excludes that which is not written for our learning.

2Peter 2 defines false teachers as anyone who does not teach the Christ-inspired text: it also excludes all of the hypocritic arts: rhetoricians, singers, instrument players, actors.

If 2 Peter 3 defines May 21 as the end of the World then it also defines the MARKS in sight and sound of the destruction of the deceivers as the same musical and theatrical performers. Music from mystery MEANS "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

The group or Commune all singing the same thing with music is THE way to deceive people: they are forced to confess that which is NOT "that which is written for our learning."

http://www.piney.com/2.Peter.3.End.Time.Mockers.html

Strange, that GCMF has a thread for the Church of Christ which is controlled by someone not bright: Larry? Johnbp who mocks all of the Biblical data used by the historic church to identify the church as qahal, synagogue, ekklesia as a school of the Bible only. How can there be grace when people work really hard to get people to compose their own songs and sermons while accepting a wage for "teaching the Word of Christ?"



Well....boys......I see you faired about at good as I did......we are all still here.....getting a second chance........

Not much account to me. I have been getting a second chance everyday since I became a follower of Jesus.
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May 31st, 2011, 3:38 am #19

If they could make it May 10 I would not have to celebrate wedding 54, wife's birthday, mother's day, kids and dogs.

Interestingly, their prophet uses 2 Peter 3 as a primary key to the end of the world. So, I did a quick study of 2 Peters 3

The Grace-Centered Magazine referenced advertisement reads:

"About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.

Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar)


It so happens that 2 Peter 1 defines the left memory of the eye--and ear witness of Jesus Christ by the Apostles. Only the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies made more perfect is the foundation upon which the church is built. That excludes that which is not written for our learning.

2Peter 2 defines false teachers as anyone who does not teach the Christ-inspired text: it also excludes all of the hypocritic arts: rhetoricians, singers, instrument players, actors.

If 2 Peter 3 defines May 21 as the end of the World then it also defines the MARKS in sight and sound of the destruction of the deceivers as the same musical and theatrical performers. Music from mystery MEANS "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

The group or Commune all singing the same thing with music is THE way to deceive people: they are forced to confess that which is NOT "that which is written for our learning."

http://www.piney.com/2.Peter.3.End.Time.Mockers.html

Strange, that GCMF has a thread for the Church of Christ which is controlled by someone not bright: Larry? Johnbp who mocks all of the Biblical data used by the historic church to identify the church as qahal, synagogue, ekklesia as a school of the Bible only. How can there be grace when people work really hard to get people to compose their own songs and sermons while accepting a wage for "teaching the Word of Christ?"







Proof that the spirits of those who hate truth is being consumed so that they have no ability to move into a totally spirit world. They are body today, tommorrow and forever.

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June 1st, 2011, 5:53 pm #20

If they could make it May 10 I would not have to celebrate wedding 54, wife's birthday, mother's day, kids and dogs.

Interestingly, their prophet uses 2 Peter 3 as a primary key to the end of the world. So, I did a quick study of 2 Peters 3

The Grace-Centered Magazine referenced advertisement reads:

"About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.

Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar)


It so happens that 2 Peter 1 defines the left memory of the eye--and ear witness of Jesus Christ by the Apostles. Only the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies made more perfect is the foundation upon which the church is built. That excludes that which is not written for our learning.

2Peter 2 defines false teachers as anyone who does not teach the Christ-inspired text: it also excludes all of the hypocritic arts: rhetoricians, singers, instrument players, actors.

If 2 Peter 3 defines May 21 as the end of the World then it also defines the MARKS in sight and sound of the destruction of the deceivers as the same musical and theatrical performers. Music from mystery MEANS "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

The group or Commune all singing the same thing with music is THE way to deceive people: they are forced to confess that which is NOT "that which is written for our learning."

http://www.piney.com/2.Peter.3.End.Time.Mockers.html

Strange, that GCMF has a thread for the Church of Christ which is controlled by someone not bright: Larry? Johnbp who mocks all of the Biblical data used by the historic church to identify the church as qahal, synagogue, ekklesia as a school of the Bible only. How can there be grace when people work really hard to get people to compose their own songs and sermons while accepting a wage for "teaching the Word of Christ?"



http://www.piney.com/Malachi.3.html

http://www.piney.com/Malachi.4.html

Because the evidence is so 100% overwhelming, and those standing in the "holy place" DENY that there is any evidence against instruments, it is very likely that they are what Jesus called Sons of The Devil: the identifying mark is that they speak on their own. Further marked as hypocrites in Ezekiel 33 as Rhetoricians, singers and instrument players. That is why they go violent when you post context to refute their proof-texts. Disciples are students and not ceremonial legalists. If you are an enabler then the blind will fall into the ditch (pit or hell)


We have looked at numerous passages which by word definition identify instruments as the MARK of those who are already consuming their spirit and therefore the urge to remove Christ from their public confession and to spread hate against those ho teach and obey the command to be baptized as a request to be accepted as a Disciple of Jesus Christ Who is The Holy Spirit or post-resurrected and changed Jesus of Nazareth.

In reviewing

http://www.piney.com/Robert.Ballard.Cas ... Music.html

I put Malachi 3 and 4 on line as a partial review. Malachi 3 shows therole of the SORCERERS us their own ARTS and CRAFTS which they presumptiously claim to AID what Scripture has left us. They use music to LIGHT THE FIRES of love and lust to subdue people or "come upon them secretely." Music MEANS to make the lambs dumb before the slaughterh.
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