Genesis 1- John 1: TWO Creations

Genesis 1- John 1: TWO Creations

Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:32 pm

November 19th, 2016, 2:32 am #1

Those who claim that the WORD of God became His Son in the beginning. Eusebius spends lots of space discussing the WORD without using the word JESUS. Those who make Jesus being in he beginning say that as the ONLY BEGOTTEN means that He was a creature and became divine by virtue of His unique nature. The confusion arises from thinking that Jesus of Nazareth CREATED all of the material things rather than spiritual in a SPIRITUAL CREATION. If you say with the Trinitarians that Jesus was born BEFORE He created 2 trillion galaxies you do not make him the singular ALMIGHTY

Col. 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, he firstborn of every creature:
Col. 1:16 For by him were all things created,<font color="#800080"> that are in heaven<b></b>
, and that are in earth,
.....visible and invisible, whether they be thrones,
.....or dominions, or principalities, or powers:
.....all things were created by him, and for him:
Col. 1:17 And he is before ALL THINGS and by him all things consist.
Col. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, THE CHURCH:
.....who is the beginning,
.....the FIRSTBORN from the dead;

He is the head of the Church or beginning as ARCHE being the first and foundation.

The CHURCH is to manifest this wisdom of God:

Eph. 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers heavenly places might be known the church the manifold wisdom of God,

Rev. 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Beginning is g746. arche, ar-khay´; from 756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concretely) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank): — beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.

g756. archomai, ar´-khom-ahee; middle voice of 757 (through the implication, of precedence); to commence (in order of time): — (rehearse from the) begin(-ning).

Genesis speaks of the FIRST creation now destroyed by WATER: Jesus is the creator of the SECOND world RESERVED UNTO FIRE. Jesus didn't come to bring peace to the earth but to engage His LITTLE FLOCK in a long conflict with evil forces.

Heb. 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb. 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

If Jesus of Nazareth was God's eternal Son and one of the "three" then the SON would have spoken: God's breath as the Spirit OF Christ inspired the prophets. Jesus is affirmed only if He was truthful when He said that He came to fulfill or "make the prophecies more certain."

Even in Genesis the "earth" is not the Cosmos of 2 trillion galaxies in our field of view but the earth meaning a "fruitful place." God made it to stand IN the water and OUT of the water.

WORLD is: g165. n aion, ahee-ohn´; from the same as 104; properly, an age; by extension, perpetuity (also past); by implication, the world; specially (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): —

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Joined: July 29th, 2010, 2:32 pm

April 1st, 2017, 4:09 pm #2

Jesus as the visible-audible Judge of Heaven and Earth did not come to endorse people who continue the Jewish-State of Civil-Military-Clergy as the avowed PATTERN for religious institutions. The REFUTE the WORD and are, according to Jude, foreordained to to COLLECT those with the Mark of the Beast: the beast is "A new style of music and Satyric drama." ACappella marks the Pan GOAT as the Scapegoat trying to dress up the ecumenical or the kingdom of Satan as a way to collectivize those doomed to be Cast alive into the lake of fire.

John defines the MUSES-speakers, singers, instrument players, actors-as LOCUSTS whose Job One is to pile the kingdom of the devil in great heaps. Because religious operatives are defined in Scripture as hypocrites-parasites-sorcerers they are the rallying cry for those seeking to escape the New Creation by Jesus Christ to be consumed by the breath (spirit) of their own mouths. They cannot grasp that the great tribulation for this Last Age is the last gasp of a dying civilization. That is why the New Creation

Luke 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come,
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he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also:
.....for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
Luke 12:41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?
Luke 12:42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward,
.....whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, give them their portion of meat in due season?
Luke 12:43 Blessed is that servant,
.....whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Luke 12:44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
Luke 12:45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
.....and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens,
.....and to eat and drink and to be drunken;
Luke 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him,
.....and at an hour when he is not aware,
.....and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lords will, and prepared not himself,
.....neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes.
.....For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required;
..... and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Luke 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth;
.....and what will I if it be already kindled?
Luke 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with;
.....and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!
Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth?
.....I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided,
.....three against two, and two against three.

Isa 4:3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem,
.....shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
Isa 4:4 When the Lord shall have WASHED away the filth of the daughters of Zion,
.....and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof the SPIRIT of judgment,
.....and by the SPIRIT of burning
Is. 4:5 And the LORD will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion,
.....and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day,
.....and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall be a defence.
Isaiah 4: 6 And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the daytime from the heat,
.....and for a place of refuge, and for a covert from storm and from rain.

Umbrācŭlum , I. any thing that furnishes shade). I Lit., a shady place, bower, arbor,Verg. E. 9, 42.— B. Transf., a SCHOOL A sunshade, parasol, umbrella, DOMOS (excludes Priests and Levites) b. In philos lang., a philosophical school, sect , Cic. Ac. 1, 4; Sen. Ep. 29 fin.; id. Ben. 5, 15. audĭo, to hear, to perceive or understand by hearing, to learn, the person from whom one hears or learns any thing,

Any thing beyond being a secluded SCHOOL OF THE WORD is a Laded Burden forcing the Lord's Day to be the most anxiety-ridden and costly day of the week. Because it has a dominant leader and tries to regulate your life it is a CULT. The Community Church fad is defined as a COMMUNE where you, says Shelly, loose your right to read, interpret or speak the WORD outside of the COMMUNITY reading.

Seneca identifies the School as:
verbum words, expressions, language, discourse, conversation logosdīco praedico, recito, declamo, affirmo


Isa 5:24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble,
.....and the flame consumeth the chaff, their root shall be as rottenness,
.....and their blossom shall go up as dust:
.....because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts,
.....and despised the WORD of the Holy One of Israel.

Most despise the Word or Logos or Regulative Principle which deprives them of anything beyond fleecing.
Most of the Rest confess the REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE but mock it by fabricating their own songs and sermons

Matt 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
.....and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
.....and them which do iniquity;
.....[Iniquity: violate the law of Christ as self will or "parcel out in self-authored sermons]
Matt 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:
.....there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Matt. 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth,
and SEVER {sect out} the wicked from among the just,
Matt. 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire:
there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Amos 2:5 But I will send a fire upon Judah,
.....and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem.

Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.