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September 24th, 2012, 5:16 pm #21

Grace Centered Magazine Forum is devoted to trying to defeat efforts like Concerned Members and ALL of the tenets which makes The Church of Christ the Only known Apostolic Church: that which is defended by all of church history.

http://www.piney.com/GraceCenteredReview.html

.They are Post-Nicene Trinitarians (LU and tritheism)
.They are hostile to any Scripture quoted defending Baptism.
.They are hostile to any effort to prove that there can be NO instrumental MARKS in a church of Christ.
.They are hostile to what they call "legalism" when "grace" gives them permissive to be LEGALISTIC: seeking to aid God in what they call worship.
.They are hostile to any quotation of passages of Scripture IN CONTEXT.

Now, the discussion of the mansions in the House of God as being the various teachings of the Apostles. We will show that the mansions in a Church of Christ are REST STATIONS to get in out of the LADED BURDEN (music) imposed by the burden-laders known as PARASITES in their pattern from the not-commanded Sacrificial system.








KJV Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


THE HOLY GHOST. Our spirits our clean because we are washed, but that is different from what we receive......."the gift of the Holy Ghost."

John 14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Jesus directs his conversation away from Philip and to EVERYONE when he says ",HE that believeth on me..."

If Jesus is speaking to EVERYONE in verse 12, then He is doing the same in verse 26

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
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September 24th, 2012, 5:27 pm #22

Grace Centered Magazine Forum is devoted to trying to defeat efforts like Concerned Members and ALL of the tenets which makes The Church of Christ the Only known Apostolic Church: that which is defended by all of church history.

http://www.piney.com/GraceCenteredReview.html

.They are Post-Nicene Trinitarians (LU and tritheism)
.They are hostile to any Scripture quoted defending Baptism.
.They are hostile to any effort to prove that there can be NO instrumental MARKS in a church of Christ.
.They are hostile to what they call "legalism" when "grace" gives them permissive to be LEGALISTIC: seeking to aid God in what they call worship.
.They are hostile to any quotation of passages of Scripture IN CONTEXT.

Now, the discussion of the mansions in the House of God as being the various teachings of the Apostles. We will show that the mansions in a Church of Christ are REST STATIONS to get in out of the LADED BURDEN (music) imposed by the burden-laders known as PARASITES in their pattern from the not-commanded Sacrificial system.








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September 24th, 2012, 5:47 pm #23

KJV Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


THE HOLY GHOST. Our spirits our clean because we are washed, but that is different from what we receive......."the gift of the Holy Ghost."

John 14
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Jesus directs his conversation away from Philip and to EVERYONE when he says ",HE that believeth on me..."

If Jesus is speaking to EVERYONE in verse 12, then He is doing the same in verse 26

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth;
.....whom the world cannot receive,
.....because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:
.....but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you,
.....and shall be in you.
John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

John 14:26 But the Comforter [parakletos], which is the Holy Ghost,
.....whom the Father will send in my name, [His Name will be Jesus Christ]
.....he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance,
.....whatsoever I have said unto you. [Christ in Spirit form]
1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

The same John identified the "I" Who was with then and would be IN them: IN does not means INSIDE OF. A parallel statement is "Abide with."

And if any man sin, we have an advocate [parakletos] with the Father,
.....Jesus Christ the righteous:
1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only,
.....but also for the sins of the whole world.
1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him,
..... if we keep his commandments.
1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar,
.....and the truth is not in him

Jesus of Nazareth in His post-glorified state is HOLY (wholly) SPIIRIT and as such is STILL the King, Head, High Priest. He is Intercessor, Mediator as the "Man Christ Jesus)

By request at Baptism God gives us A good conscience or A holy spirit which is OUR Spirit. Paul never hints of the Spirit OF Christ being "another God person" who not takes priority. No historical Trinitarian ever spoke of the persons of the Godhead but the personae. The original Nicean Creed acknowledged the Father and Lord connection and as an afterthought said "and we believe in the Holy Spirit."
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September 24th, 2012, 6:56 pm #24

Grace Centered Magazine Forum is devoted to trying to defeat efforts like Concerned Members and ALL of the tenets which makes The Church of Christ the Only known Apostolic Church: that which is defended by all of church history.

http://www.piney.com/GraceCenteredReview.html

.They are Post-Nicene Trinitarians (LU and tritheism)
.They are hostile to any Scripture quoted defending Baptism.
.They are hostile to any effort to prove that there can be NO instrumental MARKS in a church of Christ.
.They are hostile to what they call "legalism" when "grace" gives them permissive to be LEGALISTIC: seeking to aid God in what they call worship.
.They are hostile to any quotation of passages of Scripture IN CONTEXT.

Now, the discussion of the mansions in the House of God as being the various teachings of the Apostles. We will show that the mansions in a Church of Christ are REST STATIONS to get in out of the LADED BURDEN (music) imposed by the burden-laders known as PARASITES in their pattern from the not-commanded Sacrificial system.








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September 24th, 2012, 8:00 pm #25

A very regular poster once said "Grace was a blue eyed blond prostitute". I think he was referring to mythology but he didn't bother to explain that in his post. Mythology has no place in Bible discussion for obvious reasons.


THE BIBLE IS A BOOK OF REALITY.
For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty (2 Peter 1:16).

This Bible stands in complete distinction to the mythology of the era in which it was composed. You have only to read a little of the Greek or Roman or Egyptian or Babylonian mythologies to understand that there exists the greatest gulf between these and the Bible.

In contrast to such myths and fairy tales, Peter says, "The things about which we wrote to you are not theological speculation, but rather an eye witness account." John says the same thing when he speaks of "what was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we beheld and our hands handled, concerning the Word of Life" (1 John 1:1).
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September 24th, 2012, 9:53 pm #26

Grace Centered Magazine Forum is devoted to trying to defeat efforts like Concerned Members and ALL of the tenets which makes The Church of Christ the Only known Apostolic Church: that which is defended by all of church history.

http://www.piney.com/GraceCenteredReview.html

.They are Post-Nicene Trinitarians (LU and tritheism)
.They are hostile to any Scripture quoted defending Baptism.
.They are hostile to any effort to prove that there can be NO instrumental MARKS in a church of Christ.
.They are hostile to what they call "legalism" when "grace" gives them permissive to be LEGALISTIC: seeking to aid God in what they call worship.
.They are hostile to any quotation of passages of Scripture IN CONTEXT.

Now, the discussion of the mansions in the House of God as being the various teachings of the Apostles. We will show that the mansions in a Church of Christ are REST STATIONS to get in out of the LADED BURDEN (music) imposed by the burden-laders known as PARASITES in their pattern from the not-commanded Sacrificial system.








Walter Scott Restoration Movement Leader

http://www.piney.com/HsBsAcWs.html

Again--Some will say, What does the expression Holy Spirit mean?

1. Well, in scripture it stands first for God the Holy Spirit,
2. and secondly for the holy mind or spirit of a believer-

-for illustration, take Peter's words to Ananias, "Why has Satan tempted you to lie to the Holy Spirit; you have not lied to men, but to God," (the Holy Spirit.) And the Saviour says, How much more will your heavenly Father give A holy spirit (as it should be translated) to those that ask him.

Again--Praying in A holy spirit. Again--Paul says he approved himself God's servant "by knowledge, by long sufferings, by kindness, by A holy spirit'" by a mind innocent of the love of gain, or commerce, or sensuality.
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September 24th, 2012, 10:21 pm #27

A very regular poster once said "Grace was a blue eyed blond prostitute". I think he was referring to mythology but he didn't bother to explain that in his post. Mythology has no place in Bible discussion for obvious reasons.


THE BIBLE IS A BOOK OF REALITY.
For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty (2 Peter 1:16).

This Bible stands in complete distinction to the mythology of the era in which it was composed. You have only to read a little of the Greek or Roman or Egyptian or Babylonian mythologies to understand that there exists the greatest gulf between these and the Bible.

In contrast to such myths and fairy tales, Peter says, "The things about which we wrote to you are not theological speculation, but rather an eye witness account." John says the same thing when he speaks of "what was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we beheld and our hands handled, concerning the Word of Life" (1 John 1:1).
So who is worse: the Christian who discusses mythology with the Bible or the Christian who scoffs at the neither-add-to-nor-take-from command and does as he pleases?
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Racnor (short timer)
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September 24th, 2012, 11:22 pm #28

Hey "B", I'm not taking sides. I respect both you and Ken. I think if you ADD the "book of Enoch" to the Bible you open the door to the "Book of Mormon" and the "Apocrypha". Can we just be content with the Bible and the quotes it contains from Enoch?
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September 24th, 2012, 11:40 pm #29

Good plan. Since there is no command, example, remote inference of POSSIBILITY of congregational singing with instrumental accompaniment in MY Bible, where do you suppose the musicators get the idea.

The only known Bible and contemporaneous thought says that the DEVIL taught mankind how to do mixed-sex choirs, instrumental music and wearing of apparel (that clergy thingy).

No one COULD EVER and CAN NEVER obey the direct command to use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for our learning. THEREFORE, the Reformers allowed psalms (only) to be radically recomposed and set to meter for unison singing only (based on the one voice command)

When instruments were added there was a deliberate intention (then and now) to let the limpy-singy types WRITE that for our learning intentionally rebuking Jesus Christ because they have "a spirit" inside of their bodies commanding them to sow massive discord.

That's why it is important, just as Moses did, to know the Babylonian Mother's worship so he - we can tell people not to NOT GO THERE.

Ezek. 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you;
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and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh,
.....and will give them an heart of flesh:
Ezek. 11:20 That they may walk in my statutes,
.....and keep mine ordinances, and do them:
and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.


I hope you CENSOR and CENSURE your preacher's sermons and the songs before next Sunday.


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September 25th, 2012, 12:31 am #30

Hey "B", I'm not taking sides. I respect both you and Ken. I think if you ADD the "book of Enoch" to the Bible you open the door to the "Book of Mormon" and the "Apocrypha". Can we just be content with the Bible and the quotes it contains from Enoch?
As far as I know: the Bible does not quote from the Book of Mormon; the Book of Enoch is not a part of the Jewish Apocrypha or New Testament Apocrypha.

Mortal men decided which books would comprise the biblical canon. Therefore, if inspired writers resort to quoting from books written by allegedly "uninspired" writers, then it makes one wonder if the biblical canon is really all that complete.
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