Faithsite / Jabez HIJACKED by ANTI Church of Christ PLANTS?

Tom Brite
Tom Brite

September 23rd, 2006, 11:04 pm #41

Sorry, pushed the "Respond" button rather than the "Preview" button. Here is the corrected version....

Doctor, it is extremely ignorant on your part to call me a "liberal." If you had read any of my posts, you would know that I agree with you on instrumental music and baptism, to name a few topics. It is just that you come across as such an obnoxious, arrogant twit that NO ONE will listen to you.

The reason that you were banned was not that you presented a conservative opinion. (And by the way, I had nothing to do with your being banned.) Your opinions were welcomed, as I believe, were mine. However, you have a way of aggravating anyone that you attempt to engage in conversation.

The facts are clear. A person came to the Faithsite website presenting a neo-Eastern mystic, Muslim religion tied loosely in with bits of Christianity. He denied the divinity of Christ. Most on the board took issue with his beliefs and did a GOOD job of presenting the basics of Christianity. You chose not to defend your Savior and, instead, chose to belittle, deride and mock those who defended the divinity of Christ.

Evidently, you thought you could do a better job. That may be so, but you NEVER, NOT ONCE chose to teach this lost person. Nor, did you EVER show to ANYONE the great revelation that you have on how to convert this lost soul. You probably had your one and only chance to impart your great wisdom to this lost soul and the simple TRUTH is you passed it up.

Perhaps something said by one who DID choose to defend Christ will cause some thinking to take part in Bod's mind, just perhaps. All I know is that it will NOT be because of ANYTHING you chose to say to him, and THAT you can not deny.
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

September 24th, 2006, 12:19 am #42

Doctor, one is extremely ignorant on your part is calling me a "liberal." If you had read any of my posts, you would know that I agree with you on instrmental music and baptism. It is just that you come across as such an arrogant twit that NO ONE will listen to you.

The reason that you were banned was not that you presented a conservative opinion. (And by the way, I had nothing to do with your being banned.) Your opinions were welcomed, as I believe, were mine. However, you have a way of aggravating anyone that you attempt to engage in conversation.

The facts are clear. A person came to the Faithsite website presenting neo-Eastern, Muslim religion tied somewhat in with bits of Christianity. He denied the divinity of Christ. Most on the board took issue with his beliefs and did a GOOD job of presenting the basics of Christianity. You choose not to defend you Savior and, instead, choose to belittle, deride and chastise those who defended the divinity of Christ.

Evidently, you thought you could do a better job. That may be so, but you NEVER, NOT ONCE chose to attempt to teach this lost person. Nor, have you EVER shown to ANYONE the great revelation that you have on how to convert this lost soul. You probably had your one and only chance to impart your great wisdom to this lost soul and the simple truth is you passed it up. Perhaps something that one who DID choose to defend Christ will cause some thinking to take part in Bod's mind, just perhaps. All I know is that it will not be because of anything you choose to say to him.
The CM chefs have that CROW roastin' in their ovens and will be ready in a little while to serve to Tom and all the other fine liberals at FS who failed over Bod. My, but it do have a rather gamey smell. Of course, I've never tasted CROW, so Tom and the others will have to let us know what it's like. Maybe the taste is similar to snake, rat, weasel, or polecat. But since I've never tasted any of them either, I await the soon-to-be "experts" to tell us.

[Aside to Ken Sublett: Yeah, I figured Bod was some kind of heckler trying to pull the legs of the FS liberals. And he not only pulled their legs, he tore them clean off! So that's why we conservatives didn't pay Bod too much mind. But the theatrical hyperbole generated by the self-righteous liberals over Bod was just too much!]
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Tom Brite
Tom Brite

September 24th, 2006, 1:02 am #43

Doctor, thanks for not responding to my points. That says a great deal of your character.
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

September 24th, 2006, 5:42 am #44

I wonder if Tom decided what that CROW tasted like, anyway. The world was kinda waitin' to know, you know.
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Nadab
Nadab

September 24th, 2006, 9:23 pm #45

Bill Crump,
Are you really a doctor?
Really?
Like, a doctor of medicine? It would make me sick to my stomach to think the guy comnig in the room to practice medicine on me was involved in the above exchange. You should be ashamed of yourself.

First of all, I've been to Faithsite, and "Bod" was dealt with in an effective and Godly way. He lost, and hasn't been back.

I think it's ironic that you are critical of faithsite's "banning" people who disagree with them. That is this site's most defining characteristic.

Either way, this crow stuff you're talking about makes you look stupid. #1- because it's not true. Anyone who knows what you're talking about, knows that Bod lost and no one you're attacking ever ate crow over it.
#2- You're supposedly an adult, even a "doctor" (if you really are a doctor), and adults- doctors in particular, don't engage in such asanine talk.
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Ken Sublett
Ken Sublett

September 28th, 2006, 5:02 pm #46

Faithsite seems to have been hijacked by a terrorist in Cyprus. I think he has a SECRET PLANT working inside of Jabez who EXCLUDES any defense of those BASHING churches of Christ.

This may be a HIGH CRIME and certainly NOT Christian.
The mumblers at FaithSlight.con hallucinate that a CONSERVATIVE is a legalist: probably because they are afflicted with reading whole THOUGHT PATTERNS rather than, like father RasPuttin, being LIBERAL by just quoting what suits him. In the classical sense, a LIBERAL does not believe in inspiration and the FaithLess prove that by twisting Scripture. A conservative believes in inspiration and the authority of the Scriptures. The Illiterates who have not learned enough yet to be a liberal, preaches at every opportunity that ALLOWING God to convey His will by "commands, examples and inferences" was INVENTED by the neo-conservatives. When they get book learned enough to become a liberal they will understand that this is taught in the BIBLE and by all known historical scholars. The Catholics and Stoneites give themselves the liberty to just DO IT without need for authority.

Historically being LIBERAL does not mean PERMISSIVE. Rather a liberal, like Paul's command to Timothy, is that he WORKS to be able to sponsor the agape--feeding the destitute on their way to look for a day wage. Remember, if you KNOW just Christ and Him crucified you will remember that if you follow in HIS steps, you will grasp that means NOT to be ministered to BUT to minister to others. Jesus FED the poor: remember, remember, remember?

A minister actually goes out and works to have something to give to the destitute and then TEACHES (dialogs) at night when THEY have free time to learn.

The poor or DESTITUTE is what the "laying by in store" was limited to. No liberal would impose some works-intensive burden on people already stressed out from their 6 days: Jesus was liberal in giving REST from the laded burden which outlaws creating any MENTAL EXCITEMENT claiming that it attracts a Spirit God who does nto judge by what he sees and hears (Isaiah 11) Many of the chapters of isaiah identify FALSE religions before explaing the TRUE liberal shepherd who FEEDS the sheep.

<font color =red>The vile person shall be no more called liberal <voluntary, that is, generous; hence, magnanimous>, nor the churl said to be bountiful. Isa 32:5 </font>

A VILE PERSON IS LIKE THE THE WITCH OF ENDOR OR THE SOUNDING BRASS OF 1 COR. 13.
  • <font color =blue>Nabal (h5036) naw-bawl'; from 5034; stupid; wicked (espec. impious): - fool (-ish, -ish man, -ish woman), vile person.

    Nabel (h5034) to wilt; gen. to fall away, fail, faint; fig. to be foolish... make vile, wither..

    Nebel (h5035) from 5034; a skin- bag for liquids (from collapsing when empty); hence a vase (as similar in shape when full); also a lyre (as having a body of like form): - bottle, pitcher, psaltery, vessel, viol </font>
This has the same meaning as the Familiar Spirit of the Witch of Endor which was an empty wineskin she used as an echo chamber to mubble a spell to tell the ignorant that her own amplified voice was the DEMON: she got fooled. History warns that when you PRETEND to get "mad" and claim that the spirit is speakiing to you the EVIL SPIRITS frequently steal in to MISLEAD you: that is what happend when Saul "prophesied." <font color=red>When the Zoeites CALL DOWN THE FIRES that is exactly what God is doing even as they sing: Isaiah 30 proves that ALL nations when they are being driven into Topheth (the king's music grove and HELL) they will HEAR the sounds of wind, string and percussion instruments.</font> John says this is because they are SORCERERS under the Mother Goddess (Sophia mother of Zoe).

The vile HARP is also the same as the booming gongs of 1 Corinthians 13 as hi-tek echo chambers or amplifiers. By placing different sizes around the theater they became a virtual PIPE ORGAN by amplifying various tones of the singers or speakers. Paul called them Lifeless Instruments or Carnal Weapons.

A GOOD LIBERAL does not TAKE anything:
  • <font color =blue>Nadiyb (h5081) naw-deeb'; from 5068; prop. voluntary, i. e. generous; hence, magnanimous; as noun, a grandee (sometimes a tyrant): - free, liberal (things), noble, prince, willing (hearted). </font>
<font color =red>For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, </font>
  • <font color=blue>to make empty the soul of the hungry,
    and he will cause the DRINK of the thirsty to FAIL. Isaiah 32:6 </font>
Amos and Isaiah 5 connect the WORD--HUNGER AND THIRST directly to singing and instruments.

Villany is:
  • <font color =blue>Nebalah (h5039) neb-aw-law'; fem. of 5036; foolishness, i. e. (mor.) wickedness; concr. a crime; by extens. punishment: - folly, vile, villany.

    Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have
    committed adultery with their neighbours wives, and
    have spoken LYING words in my name,
    which I have NOT commanded them;,
    even I know and am a witness, saith the Lord. Je.29:23 </font>
Click below to see Ezekiel (not covered under PhDuh) warned after he warned about the women lamenting for Tammuz in the temple and the men holding their sun-rise service.You will remember that the Songs and Sermons have been writen by The Spirit OF Christ (2 Cor 3, 1 Pet 1:11, Rev 19:10). They have been once delivered by the Apostle-Prophets in a mouth to mouth or face to face way and Peter said that if they DON'T speak that delivered Word it is a MARK that they are a false prophet. Any preacher who denies that God has the same right THEY have is a false teacher: don't feed him, all history calls the speakers, singers and musicians both hypocrites and PARASITES.

<font color =red>The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right. Isa 32:7 </font>
  • <font color =blue>And the Lord said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments
    of a foolish (vile) shepherd. Zech 11:15

    Instruments (h3627) kel-ee'; from 3615; artillery, bag, instrument,
    jewel, that is made of, psaltery, weapon,

    For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, which
    shall NOT visiT those that be cut off,
    neither shall seek the young one,
    nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still:

    but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and
    tear their claws in pieces. Zech 11:16

    Woe to the IDOL shepherd that leaveth the flock
    the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye:
    his arm shall be clean dried up, and
    his right eye shall be utterly darkened. Zech 11:17 </font>
<font color =red>he DEVISETH wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right. </font>

Paul said that the MANY teachers plaguing the new churches were mercinary and Peter said that the MOSTLY preachers CORRUPT the Word: that means to SELL TEACHING AT RETAIL. They just DEVISETH their own songs and sermos so that, like the Pharisees, they can SELL them for a higher bag of FLEECE. These PROPHECY SELLERS in Ezekiel 13, including women, went to the workshops of evil to STEAL WORDS ONE FROM ANOTHER. Then they "made souls fly" which along with "prophesying" implicated the use of singing and instruments to seduce what Lucian of Samosata called "fat heads and simpletons" by blowing the flute.
  • <font color =blue>For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins:
    they afflict the just, they take a bribe [collections], and
    they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right. Am.5:12

    Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs;
    for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. Amos 5:23

    That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes;
    yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat? Am.8:6

    And I will turn your feasts into mourning,
    and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth
    upon all loins, and baldness upon every head;
    and I will make it as the mourning of an only son,
    and the end thereof as a bitter day. Amos 8:10

    Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send
    a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,
    but of hearing the words of the Lord: Amos 8:11</font>
<font color =red>But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand. Isa 32:8

Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech. Isa 32:9

Many days and years shall ye be troubled, ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come. Isa 32:10

Tremble, ye women that are at ease; be troubled, ye careless ones: strip you, and make you bare, and gird sackcloth upon your loins. Isa 32:11

They shall lament for the teats, for the pleasant fields, for the fruitful vine. Isa 32:12

Upon the land of my people shall come up thorns and briers; yea, upon all the houses of joy in the joyous city: Isa 32:13 </font>

A TRUE shepherd NEVER leads them into the SOUNDS OF RUSHING WATERS but to REST beside QUIET waters. Jesus DIED to give us rest FROM the religious rituals which ALWAYS create great stress if someone promises to bring you into the presence of a Deity.

Those who "sing where the Bible sings" are the TRUE liberals because they do not impose the CLERGY BURDEN which means "spiritual anxiety" and the "extra tax not in time of war." This BURDEN is defined by both Hebrew and GREEK as SINGING.

Music is CONSERVATIVE in that it attempts to hang on to that which began in the garden of Eden and fueled ancient Babylon. Scholars speaking of the BREAK UP of modern "christendon" such as Joseph Campbell note that when people LOSE FAITH in their religion they CRACK AWAY to the Archaic. Revelation 18 identifies the ancient Babylon religion for the end time where the speakers, singers and musicians are accused by John with practicing sorcery BY WHICH the nations are deceived.

We had a 700 count day at CM this week: too bad that you guys and dolls have to mubble to one another in the middle of a PMS FIT.
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

September 29th, 2006, 1:08 pm #47

Bill Crump,
Are you really a doctor?
Really?
Like, a doctor of medicine? It would make me sick to my stomach to think the guy comnig in the room to practice medicine on me was involved in the above exchange. You should be ashamed of yourself.

First of all, I've been to Faithsite, and "Bod" was dealt with in an effective and Godly way. He lost, and hasn't been back.

I think it's ironic that you are critical of faithsite's "banning" people who disagree with them. That is this site's most defining characteristic.

Either way, this crow stuff you're talking about makes you look stupid. #1- because it's not true. Anyone who knows what you're talking about, knows that Bod lost and no one you're attacking ever ate crow over it.
#2- You're supposedly an adult, even a "doctor" (if you really are a doctor), and adults- doctors in particular, don't engage in such asanine talk.
"Bod" hasn't been back to FS, because he as well as the other conservatives posting there were banned. You can't say that someone "lost" the argument because they were banned. The moderators just took the easy way out over there and eliminated the competition, simple as that. Bod got the best of the liberals, the liberals whined about it, so the moderators banned Bod, simple as that. The moderators there wanted a "closed society" of liberals, so they banned everyone who didn't post like typical liberals, simple as that.

Since the conservatives were booted out, FS has remained rather quiet, and the liberals there still admit that they are groping for topics. It should be clear that if the FS moderators really want a busy, active, site, they know what to do and whom to bring back!

Belittling me and my profession may bolster "Nadab's" ego, but it only provides a false sense of superiority. Insults and personal attacks are nothing more than marks of immaturity; those who use them do so because they know that they lack legitimate rebuttal. Just remember that those who resort to insults and personal attacks have already lost the argument.

BTW, I take it that "Nadab" was also one of the FS liberals whom Bod bested. This would explain his defensive attitude and his revulsion of the CROW that he also ate with Tom, Max, and the other FS liberals.
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MaxMoon
MaxMoon

September 29th, 2006, 9:59 pm #48

I haven't eaten any crow.
And no Faithsite Conservatives were banned.
"Bod" and the Faithsite Liberals were banned.

Dr. Bill Crump got banned not once, not twice, but thrice!
And it was all for being LIBERAL.

And he didn't have to eat crow, oh no! He had to eat a
banned sandwich, and it was a triple decker!

Dr. Bill "Faithsite Liberal" Crump can whine all day long about how
he is a conservative, but only LIBERALS like him whine like
broken-hearted 12 yr old school girls.

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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

September 30th, 2006, 3:49 am #49

Faithsite seems to have been hijacked by a terrorist in Cyprus. I think he has a SECRET PLANT working inside of Jabez who EXCLUDES any defense of those BASHING churches of Christ.

This may be a HIGH CRIME and certainly NOT Christian.
All the FS liberals ate CROW and are still eating it every time they bring up the subject of Bod. They'll deny it, swear they haven't touched it, won't confess to choking it down, but the fact remains that they ATE CROW because Bod got the best of them, or bested them. Once again, ya got bested, buds. It's a stark reality, but reality it is, friends and neighbors. Now I realize that it's wretchedly shameful and they won't own up to it, but we all know what happened between Bod and the FS liberals. When the libs couldn't win against a superior debater like Bod, who knew his faith better than the libs knew theirs, they simply got rid of the competition to "save face." And now the libs are eternally bent on riding the conservatives because of the libs' own shortcomings. Pretty low way to go. What the libs should do is study the Word of God much more earnestly so that they will be better prepared to tackle someone like Bod in the future. But hey, if all the libs desire is to pursue their insulting and reviling the conservatives, it proves they haven't learned a thing from their experience with Bod.

Those who won't pay attention to history are bound to repeat it.
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Ken Sublett
Ken Sublett

September 30th, 2006, 4:15 am #50

Faithsite seems to have been hijacked by a terrorist in Cyprus. I think he has a SECRET PLANT working inside of Jabez who EXCLUDES any defense of those BASHING churches of Christ.

This may be a HIGH CRIME and certainly NOT Christian.
Oh, MIN MOON, there is no WHINING? Getting booted from FaithSlight.Con is the ultimate goal. I haven't had as much validation since I was refused membership in the MONOSYL SOCIETY in High School. I am truly happy that there remains a SLIGHT so about a dozen or so hits keeps some people off the streets. I had to work really hard to get kicked out of the sand box the third time. You do know that this is not a real site: they were happy to give it to YTBH or PMS or some other feminazi to be the MODULATOR. It's a JOKE, max, a JOKE: don't you get it?

Now, there is no one left in the cage, including preachers, who can grasp that there is NO KNOWN literature which does not associate MUSIC with people who are DOOMED: Even if Rasputin could quote Psalm 150 150 times. Here is a document attributed to James and it agrees with ALL of the Bible and ALL known literature:

<font color=blue>He was that one whom he who created the heaven and the earth and dwelled in it, did not see. He was this one who is the life. He was the light. He was that one who will come to be. And again he shall provide an end for what has begun, and a beginning for what is about to be ended.
  • He was the Holy Spirit and the Invisible One, who did not descend upon the earth. He was the virgin, and that which he wishes, happens to him. I saw that he was naked, and there was no garment clothing him. That which he wills, happens to him [...].
"Renounce this difficult way, which is (so) variable,
  • and walk in accordance with him who desires that you become free men with me, after you have passed above every dominion.
For he will not judge (you) for those things that you did, but will have mercy on you. For (it is) not you that did them, but it is your Lord (that did them). He was not a wrathful one, but he was a kind Father.

"But you have judged yourselves, and because of this you will remain in their fetters. You have oppressed yourselves, and you will repent, (but) you will not profit at all. Behold him who speaks and seek him who is silent. Know him who came to this place, and understand him who went forth (from it).
  • I am the Just One, and I do <not> judge. I am not a master, then, but I am a helper. He was cast out before he stretched out his hand. I [...].
"[...] and he allows me to hear.
  • And play your trumpets, your flutes and your harps of this house.

    The Lord has taken you captive from the Lord,

    having closed your ears, that they MAY NOT HEAR the sound of my word.
</font>IT'S THE MARK and YOU didn't even hear the trumpet voice heard around the world.

Make sense that if you play instruments you cannot hear the Words of Jesus? Self evident except for those already deaf and blind! Make sense that you REFUSE to hear His words when you hear Twila Paris or the teeny-weeny erotic praise songs COMMISSIONED by diverting the Widow's Money?
<font color=blue>
  • Yet you will be able to pay heed in your hearts, and you will call me 'the Just One.' Therefore, I tell you: Behold, I gave you your house, which you say that God has made - that (house) in which he promised to give you an inheritance through it.

    This (house) I shall doom to destruction and derision of those who are in ignorance. For behold, those who judge deliberarate [...]."
On that day all the people and the crowd were disturbed, and they showed that they had NOT been persuaded.

And he arose and went forth speaking in this manner. And he entered (again) on that same day and spoke a few hours.

And I was with the PRIESTS and revealed nothing of the relationship, since all of them were saying with one voice,
  • 'Come, let us stone the Just One.' And they arose, saying, 'Yes, let us kill this man, that he may be taken from our midst. For he will be of no use to us.'

    Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. Isa 6:8

    And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Isa 6:9

    Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. Isa 6:10
</font>Of course the Levitical Warrior Musicians were prophesied to MOCK Him to death. No exception, Max: Sad sad that bitter wail, not even close but lost. Jesus told me so and YOU and the pig-tail-pulling crowd cannot refute it: that, too is prophesied. That is why the EVE character will make sure that it is a TESTESTERONE FREE ZONE.
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