Ex-Church of Christ Support Group

Ex-Church of Christ Support Group

Joined: January 2nd, 2005, 6:45 am

May 11th, 2010, 11:42 pm #1

Ex-Church of Christ Support Group
Here is my response to an Ex group. The problem is that they are upset because they are upset that they got into preaching without the honesty and scholarship and just hate themselves. They also lie about churches of Christ when they are probably mad at one who FIRIED THEM.

http://www.piney.com/Ex-ChurchOfChrist.html

We have updated to prove that the Psalms with Instrument as the foundation they use to silence The School of Christ is, was and ever shall be called Soothsaying, sorcery or witchcraft.





[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]A liberal brother of the change camp took the time to send me the web address of a group he evidently admires. They call themselves "Ex-Church of Christ Support Group."

The above title is the name of a website operated by folks who claim to have once been members of the Church of Christ, who have now found their faux freedom by leaving her ranks. It is most interesting that those who operate it do so anonymously. That raises some questions. Were they ever truly members of the Church of Christ? Have they actually left the church? Are they associated with the change agents who labor day and night to undermine and weaken the church and draw away her members? Are they being totally honest and truthful in the bitter charges and accusations they make against the church?

I take this to be an attempt to discredit the church in the eyes of the world. The charges brought against her are exaggerations and distortions. At the best, it is an attempt at self-justification by those who no longer believe in New Testament Christianity.

The format they have chosen is modeled after that of those who have escaped extreme and malevolent cults or addictions. By this they are implying that the Church of Christ is like that. Of course they know the comparison is false, but such folks don't mind using a little falsehood to make their points.

They are evangelists for a cause of their own making. If they were members of a congregation that did not meet their spiritual needs, they could go to another that did. If they found themselves in a church dry and withered from legalistic teaching and practice, they could have gone to a congregation not so afflicted. If there were some obvious flaw in the faith, worship, and practice of the Church of Christ, they could do us the courtesy of pointing out that flaw. If they were not happy in the Church of Christ, they could leave and go to some denomination where the happiness they seek could be found. The fact is they want to harm the church by laying serious charges and accusations against her. If they can shake the faith of some novice or weak member, perhaps they can draw them into their orbit of influence.

When a person no longer believes the essential fundamentals of New Testament Christianity; when he no longer loves the church nor feels a part of her; when he finds his pleasure in cirticizing and belittling her past, her teachers and servants; when he spends his time sowing doubt and discord; then it is time for him to leave -- the sooner the better! His deadly tentacles reach out to envelope other unsuspecting souls. Like Judas he needs to "go to his own place." (Acts 1:25).

Many of these unhappy souls imagine themselves to be so refined and well-educated that they can no longer brook a church that does not recognize their greatness. Others never knew the way of righteousness. They came into the fellowship of the church by accident of birth, marriage, or some other way that did not involve serious Bible teaching and an act of personal commitment. Having no real personal investment in the church, their eyes are constantly looking for something more desirable and exciting for them. Like the spouose who sees every flaw in their marriage partner, so these misanthropes see nothing good in the church.

Me thinks they should create their own denomination. They could call it The Community Church of Love, Peace, and Joy (non-doctrinal, non-compliant, and non-salvational). They could quickly become a magnate for malcontents, not only from Churches of Christ, but from every other religious body. Since doctrine and obedience would not be issues, they, along with the Unitarian/Universalist Church, would fill a unique niche in the community. Rather than be "hide-bound" victims of a Bible-believing and respecting church, every member would be free to do that which is right in his own eyes (Judges 17:6), Rather than having to listen to sermons punctuated with scripture, they could have a wide assortment of non-scriptural entertaining activities for their worship.

Knowing the consequences they will face, we rightfully sorrow for those who abandon the church and the Master's Will. However, we must remember the words the Spirit gave to guide us:

* "Many are called, but few are chosen" (Matt. 20:16).
* "The love of many shall wax cold" (Matt. 24:12).
* "Demas forsook me, having loved this present world" (II Tim. 4:10).
* "Some shall depart from the faith" (I Tim. 4:1-2).
* "Let no man beguile you" (II Thess. 2:3).

These former members of the Lord's church have an evangelistic zeal for their new cause. They want to allure young, weak, and unhappy members of the Master's church and draw them away to themselves (Acts 20:30). To capture these vulnerable souls, they spare neither time nor energy. The marvel is, why cannot those who love the church rise up with zeal equal to that of her enemies to defend the Cause of Christ and defeat His enemies?[/color]

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John Waddey, Editor
Christianity: Then and Now

E-Mail: mailto:johnwaddey@aol.com

Be assured those will be thy worst enemies, not to whom thou has done evil, but who have done evil to thee..."
__Lavater

"When soldiers go AWOL, they are prone to blame everyone but themselves. So also do backslidden saints."
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Geadneym
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May 14th, 2010, 8:55 pm #2

Missed the boat by a few years Waddey.
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

May 14th, 2010, 10:13 pm #3

John Waddey's email is clearly posted. I'm sure that he would be thrilled to receive a personal note from someone with an alias of "Ganymede" who can offer such enlightening, scholarly, and constructive criticism.
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May 15th, 2010, 1:49 am #4

Missed the boat by a few years Waddey.
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Moon,

There are countless articles out there that are factual and revealing regardless of time. You're not suggesting that the anti-church support group no longer exists, are you? If you're not, then, know that the message is relevant.[/color]
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Ken Sublet
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May 15th, 2010, 1:54 am #5

Ex-Church of Christ Support Group
Here is my response to an Ex group. The problem is that they are upset because they are upset that they got into preaching without the honesty and scholarship and just hate themselves. They also lie about churches of Christ when they are probably mad at one who FIRIED THEM.

http://www.piney.com/Ex-ChurchOfChrist.html

We have updated to prove that the Psalms with Instrument as the foundation they use to silence The School of Christ is, was and ever shall be called Soothsaying, sorcery or witchcraft.





[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]A liberal brother of the change camp took the time to send me the web address of a group he evidently admires. They call themselves "Ex-Church of Christ Support Group."

The above title is the name of a website operated by folks who claim to have once been members of the Church of Christ, who have now found their faux freedom by leaving her ranks. It is most interesting that those who operate it do so anonymously. That raises some questions. Were they ever truly members of the Church of Christ? Have they actually left the church? Are they associated with the change agents who labor day and night to undermine and weaken the church and draw away her members? Are they being totally honest and truthful in the bitter charges and accusations they make against the church?

I take this to be an attempt to discredit the church in the eyes of the world. The charges brought against her are exaggerations and distortions. At the best, it is an attempt at self-justification by those who no longer believe in New Testament Christianity.

The format they have chosen is modeled after that of those who have escaped extreme and malevolent cults or addictions. By this they are implying that the Church of Christ is like that. Of course they know the comparison is false, but such folks don't mind using a little falsehood to make their points.

They are evangelists for a cause of their own making. If they were members of a congregation that did not meet their spiritual needs, they could go to another that did. If they found themselves in a church dry and withered from legalistic teaching and practice, they could have gone to a congregation not so afflicted. If there were some obvious flaw in the faith, worship, and practice of the Church of Christ, they could do us the courtesy of pointing out that flaw. If they were not happy in the Church of Christ, they could leave and go to some denomination where the happiness they seek could be found. The fact is they want to harm the church by laying serious charges and accusations against her. If they can shake the faith of some novice or weak member, perhaps they can draw them into their orbit of influence.

When a person no longer believes the essential fundamentals of New Testament Christianity; when he no longer loves the church nor feels a part of her; when he finds his pleasure in cirticizing and belittling her past, her teachers and servants; when he spends his time sowing doubt and discord; then it is time for him to leave -- the sooner the better! His deadly tentacles reach out to envelope other unsuspecting souls. Like Judas he needs to "go to his own place." (Acts 1:25).

Many of these unhappy souls imagine themselves to be so refined and well-educated that they can no longer brook a church that does not recognize their greatness. Others never knew the way of righteousness. They came into the fellowship of the church by accident of birth, marriage, or some other way that did not involve serious Bible teaching and an act of personal commitment. Having no real personal investment in the church, their eyes are constantly looking for something more desirable and exciting for them. Like the spouose who sees every flaw in their marriage partner, so these misanthropes see nothing good in the church.

Me thinks they should create their own denomination. They could call it The Community Church of Love, Peace, and Joy (non-doctrinal, non-compliant, and non-salvational). They could quickly become a magnate for malcontents, not only from Churches of Christ, but from every other religious body. Since doctrine and obedience would not be issues, they, along with the Unitarian/Universalist Church, would fill a unique niche in the community. Rather than be "hide-bound" victims of a Bible-believing and respecting church, every member would be free to do that which is right in his own eyes (Judges 17:6), Rather than having to listen to sermons punctuated with scripture, they could have a wide assortment of non-scriptural entertaining activities for their worship.

Knowing the consequences they will face, we rightfully sorrow for those who abandon the church and the Master's Will. However, we must remember the words the Spirit gave to guide us:

* "Many are called, but few are chosen" (Matt. 20:16).
* "The love of many shall wax cold" (Matt. 24:12).
* "Demas forsook me, having loved this present world" (II Tim. 4:10).
* "Some shall depart from the faith" (I Tim. 4:1-2).
* "Let no man beguile you" (II Thess. 2:3).

These former members of the Lord's church have an evangelistic zeal for their new cause. They want to allure young, weak, and unhappy members of the Master's church and draw them away to themselves (Acts 20:30). To capture these vulnerable souls, they spare neither time nor energy. The marvel is, why cannot those who love the church rise up with zeal equal to that of her enemies to defend the Cause of Christ and defeat His enemies?[/color]

___________________________________
John Waddey, Editor
Christianity: Then and Now

E-Mail: mailto:johnwaddey@aol.com

Be assured those will be thy worst enemies, not to whom thou has done evil, but who have done evil to thee..."
__Lavater

"When soldiers go AWOL, they are prone to blame everyone but themselves. So also do backslidden saints."
Here is my response to an Ex group. The problem is that they are upset because they are upset that they got into preaching without the honesty and scholarship and just hate themselves. They also lie about churches of Christ when they are probably mad at one who FIRIED THEM.

http://www.piney.com/Ex-ChurchOfChrist.html

Needs serious updating
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

May 15th, 2010, 3:11 am #6

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Moon,

There are countless articles out there that are factual and revealing regardless of time. You're not suggesting that the anti-church support group no longer exists, are you? If you're not, then, know that the message is relevant.[/color]
There is at least one ex-church of Christ support group web site that still exists. It's www.ex-churchofchrist.com. That site features two message boards, one exclusively for those who have left the Church, and one for general discussion by those who are still members of the Church. I once visited that site and went to the general board, where I posted my conservative views. Within a few moments, I received a response. Did that person welcome me to the board for a civil discussion? Alas, no. His exact words were, "You pathetic sack of [excrement, the 'S' word]!" I knew that it would be a waste of time trying to communicate with anyone on THAT board, because people there were so consumed with bitter hatred against the Church.

There are probably other ex-Church support groups out there.
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