Edward Fudge Faith Only and Baptism: New Wine Skins Magazine

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June 15th, 2012, 2:23 am #1

If you understand the meaning of BELIEVETH when connected by Jesus to BAPTISM and when you understand that believeth not is Apistos which says "I will not Comply." The word identifies betrayal or treason. That would mark those lost spirits for whom Jesus was sent to SEEK AND SAVE and separate from the world and the wise.



<font face="arial" size="4">The prophets and the New Testament has many parallel statements to prove that those who try to defeat the pattern of Jesus are NOT those whom Jesus is seeking: he blinds and makes them deaf.



Edward Fudge just quotes part of a verse and concludes that we are saved by FAITH ONLY. However, he misses the point that none of these "faith only" passages fail to connect faith to calling on the name of the Lord. The New Wine Skins Magazine is his pulpit:

http://www.piney.com/Edward.Fudge.Faith ... Skins.html





Al Maxey in Holding the Harps of God claims that they were PLAYING the harps of God.

http://www.piney.com/Al.Maxey.Holding.T ... f.God.html

He has a case of PreacherGesis: he just makes up definitions of words and never looks at the definition of words or the connection with Revelation 15 with the "Song of Moses."

Holding means APPREHENDING or understanding the Harp OF God: not David.



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June 15th, 2012, 7:18 am #2

You really need to learn when to shut up, Ken. Al's message has no connection to what you are trying to twist it to say.You are dishonest and a liar.
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June 15th, 2012, 3:48 pm #3

So it appears that those who are frustrated with Ken can do nothing more than jump up and down and holler, "Shut up! You're dishonest! You're a liar!" I recall hearing kids holler similar expressions many long years ago on the playground at the elementary school.
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June 17th, 2012, 1:18 pm #4

If you understand the meaning of BELIEVETH when connected by Jesus to BAPTISM and when you understand that believeth not is Apistos which says "I will not Comply." The word identifies betrayal or treason. That would mark those lost spirits for whom Jesus was sent to SEEK AND SAVE and separate from the world and the wise.



<font face="arial" size="4">The prophets and the New Testament has many parallel statements to prove that those who try to defeat the pattern of Jesus are NOT those whom Jesus is seeking: he blinds and makes them deaf.



Edward Fudge just quotes part of a verse and concludes that we are saved by FAITH ONLY. However, he misses the point that none of these "faith only" passages fail to connect faith to calling on the name of the Lord. The New Wine Skins Magazine is his pulpit:

http://www.piney.com/Edward.Fudge.Faith ... Skins.html





Al Maxey in Holding the Harps of God claims that they were PLAYING the harps of God.

http://www.piney.com/Al.Maxey.Holding.T ... f.God.html

He has a case of PreacherGesis: he just makes up definitions of words and never looks at the definition of words or the connection with Revelation 15 with the "Song of Moses."

Holding means APPREHENDING or understanding the Harp OF God: not David.



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Up to the same ole thing, eh B? You just run after them, nagging them, and slander them when they don't agree with the "concernedmembers" ideology. You aren't any better than they are. No smiley face at the end? You are losing your touch.
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June 17th, 2012, 5:57 pm #5

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Dave,

You are behaving like a change agent -- slick. I think I have heard that title from you: same style -- "you are a sinner, not I."

Anyway, although you have nothing to say about this thread, which is about the doctrine of Al Maxey (a change agent, your mentor), you are welcome back.

By the way, no one is forcing you or anyone to agree with ConcernedMembers, which is not a church -- it is a religious forum!!! We've published your messages including this one. And you know it.

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June 18th, 2012, 4:54 am #6

If you understand the meaning of BELIEVETH when connected by Jesus to BAPTISM and when you understand that believeth not is Apistos which says "I will not Comply." The word identifies betrayal or treason. That would mark those lost spirits for whom Jesus was sent to SEEK AND SAVE and separate from the world and the wise.



<font face="arial" size="4">The prophets and the New Testament has many parallel statements to prove that those who try to defeat the pattern of Jesus are NOT those whom Jesus is seeking: he blinds and makes them deaf.



Edward Fudge just quotes part of a verse and concludes that we are saved by FAITH ONLY. However, he misses the point that none of these "faith only" passages fail to connect faith to calling on the name of the Lord. The New Wine Skins Magazine is his pulpit:

http://www.piney.com/Edward.Fudge.Faith ... Skins.html





Al Maxey in Holding the Harps of God claims that they were PLAYING the harps of God.

http://www.piney.com/Al.Maxey.Holding.T ... f.God.html

He has a case of PreacherGesis: he just makes up definitions of words and never looks at the definition of words or the connection with Revelation 15 with the "Song of Moses."

Holding means APPREHENDING or understanding the Harp OF God: not David.



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Donnie said "You are behaving like a change agent -- slick. I think I have heard that title from you: same style --..."

Two things
1} slick is better than stupid, so thank you.
2) You are telling me that I have style? Even after I said that you had none?
You ole flatter you....maybe there is hope for you yet.

Oh, and also, everyone knows that this isn't a church. It isn't a religious forum either. It is you and a few other men slandering anyone who doesn't agree with your brand of man-made ideology, including you and your band of merry men slandering churches of our Lord Jesus Christ.....your day of judgment is coming soon enough.

Double standard doesn't taste so good, does it Donnie? You can gladly give B the leeway to hide behind his alias, then certainly you can do the same for moi?
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June 18th, 2012, 6:08 am #7

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Dave,

I'm still asking the real "B" to leave this man [you, the imposter "B"] alone. And just let this angry man [you] speak his mind ... for now anyway. He is very, very mad at those who stand for the truth and in defense of the church that Christ established -- unbecoming an elder of any congregation of the church. Sorry, Clemson church.

You, Dave, consider the DISCUSSION of doctrinal teachings and beliefs either authored or acquired by change agents in the brotherhood slanderous. But what about what the anti-church of Christ change agents are doing to and against the church?

I would urge you, as an elder, to simply be involved in our discussion of doctrinal matters and issues, instead of your childish feelings about one poster. And stop your judgment on anyone who does not agree with you. That's not yours to do. It is God's position to say if one is heaven-bound or hell-bound, if one is a sinner or a saint. All we're doing here is discuss teachings if they're scriptural or not. You can do exactly that for your health's sake.

The current topic now is NOT about the poster's ID; so, that is not going to be discussed any longer. [We've recently created a separate thread regarding login or authorship identities.] This thread by Ken is titled: "Al Maxey Holding the Harps of God." Do you have any questions for the author? [/color]
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June 18th, 2012, 8:06 am #8

If you understand the meaning of BELIEVETH when connected by Jesus to BAPTISM and when you understand that believeth not is Apistos which says "I will not Comply." The word identifies betrayal or treason. That would mark those lost spirits for whom Jesus was sent to SEEK AND SAVE and separate from the world and the wise.



<font face="arial" size="4">The prophets and the New Testament has many parallel statements to prove that those who try to defeat the pattern of Jesus are NOT those whom Jesus is seeking: he blinds and makes them deaf.



Edward Fudge just quotes part of a verse and concludes that we are saved by FAITH ONLY. However, he misses the point that none of these "faith only" passages fail to connect faith to calling on the name of the Lord. The New Wine Skins Magazine is his pulpit:

http://www.piney.com/Edward.Fudge.Faith ... Skins.html





Al Maxey in Holding the Harps of God claims that they were PLAYING the harps of God.

http://www.piney.com/Al.Maxey.Holding.T ... f.God.html

He has a case of PreacherGesis: he just makes up definitions of words and never looks at the definition of words or the connection with Revelation 15 with the "Song of Moses."

Holding means APPREHENDING or understanding the Harp OF God: not David.



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[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Remember, there's the book in the New Testament called "[The] Acts of the Apostles."

Know that ConcernedMembers was begun as a response to the challenges facing the church in this new century. Our purposes have been that:

(1) We wish to set forth those fundamentals of New Testament Christianity which virtually all members of the church have held dear in the past; and

(2) We want to respond to those who no longer care for the idea of restoring the ancient faith and thus are challenging things we view as fundamental to the faith.

So, we must realize and recognize that the church of Christ Jesus is under siege -- thanks to "The Acts of the Change Agents."

I've come across an article that discusses a well-known "change agent" -- one dating back to the 2008 election campaigns. Oh, the "HOPE and CHANGE." I couldn't help but notice this line: "... but it captures Obama's desire to become a change agent again by turning his opponent into a restorationist."

This would make an excellent book to be written: "The Change Agents Against the Restoration Movement."

Just as I thought: there are change agents in politics. And there are change agents in the church of Christ. This article ("Obama: Keep the Change") might be of interest to the reader:

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June 18th, 2012, 3:48 pm #9

Remember that the changelings get their PATTERNISM from the Jews: they CLAIM that God's abandonment of them to make music while slaughtering the innocents is NOW COMMANDED FOR THEM: "God commands instrumental praise" and they collect all of the cursed Monarchy's PATTERNISM.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death


The Judas Bag carried the mouthpieces of wind instruments: he did not know that when Jesus MARKED him with the PSALLO word (SOP) that invited Satan to COME INTO HIM and he was "inspired" to execute himself because he failed to help Satan successfully.

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven:
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Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
.....and the dragon fought and his angels, [Apollyon and his MUSES]
Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out,
.....that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
.....which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,
.....and his angels were cast out with him.


Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters,
.....shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be,
.....shall be found any more in thee;
.....and the sound of a millstone [prostitutes] shall be heard no more at all in thee;
Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee;
.....and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee:
.....[The heiros gamos = sacred sex by the "team"]
..... for thy merchants were the great men of the earth;
.....for by thy SORCERIES were all nations deceived.
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets,
.....and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.


Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,
.....Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
.....for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony;
.....and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
.....Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you,
.....having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,
.....he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle,
.....that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time,
.....from the face of the serpent.
Revelation 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman,
.....that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Revelation 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth,
.....and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
.....and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,
.....which keep the commandments of God,
.....and have the testimony of Jesus Christ [Spirit]
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June 19th, 2012, 2:07 am #10

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Remember, there's the book in the New Testament called "[The] Acts of the Apostles."

Know that ConcernedMembers was begun as a response to the challenges facing the church in this new century. Our purposes have been that:

(1) We wish to set forth those fundamentals of New Testament Christianity which virtually all members of the church have held dear in the past; and

(2) We want to respond to those who no longer care for the idea of restoring the ancient faith and thus are challenging things we view as fundamental to the faith.

So, we must realize and recognize that the church of Christ Jesus is under siege -- thanks to "The Acts of the Change Agents."

I've come across an article that discusses a well-known "change agent" -- one dating back to the 2008 election campaigns. Oh, the "HOPE and CHANGE." I couldn't help but notice this line: "... but it captures Obama's desire to become a change agent again by turning his opponent into a restorationist."

This would make an excellent book to be written: "The Change Agents Against the Restoration Movement."

Just as I thought: there are change agents in politics. And there are change agents in the church of Christ. This article ("Obama: Keep the Change") might be of interest to the reader:

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The change agents have some sort of cockeyed notion that God looks with disfavor on those who expose their spiritually heinous philosophy. Thus, the change agents claim that God will bring judgment on their opponents and wait with glee to be the first to light the fires of hell against them. So the change agents would have the gullible and the witless to believe that God smiles upon the change agents who laugh and scoff at His New Testament commandments, and that God condemns those who warn others to beware the spiritual abominations of the change agents.
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