Doug Hurley Your Sons and Daughters shall Prophesy at ACU

Doug Hurley Your Sons and Daughters shall Prophesy at ACU

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November 21st, 2012, 11:07 pm #1

Several of the present and past teachers at ACU are making a major drive to find a role in your church for a Female Prophesier.

http://www.piney.com/Doug.Hurley.Your.S ... y.ACU.html

This is consistent with the LU female drive for Ignatian Meditation and "using your imagination" to interpret Scripture. This along with the female and effeminate musical worship teams defines the Levites prophesying which is defined as soosthsaying or sorcery or witchcraft.

1 Corinthians 1

http://www.piney.com/1.Corinthians.1.html

Paul always EXCLUDES certain people and activities. For instance the WISE will be excluded based on prophecy. Paul asks WHERE are those wise? Well a wise person is a SOPHISTS: professional speakers, singers, instrument players and actors. Jesus called them hypocrites by pointing to Ezekiel 13


One of the silliest, Bible-empty whine coming out of ACU these days that Churches of Christ mistreat their women by not USING them by exposing them to the gaze of men lusting for something new.

http://www.piney.com/Ken.Cukrowski.Wome ... y.ACU.html

Wiley Clarkson confesses to feeling closer to heaven and we have to remind people that the "feeling" from slick speakers, singers and instrument players is that female kinda thing Paul called WRATH. Cukrowski thinks that the men too their ANGER out on people while praying (like some preachers.). In fact wrath is orge or ORGY which defined what Madison is trying to stroke up.

http://www.piney.com/Wiley.Clarkson.ACU ... scord.html

I have done a quick take on Rick Atchleys The Law of Silence. It is clear that he floats like a butterfly and does not have a remote hint about the Bible since he can fabricate or extricate sermons from the web or from the NACC. His video in jester suit really makes me wonder.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Law.of.Silence.html

Reviewing Barbara Rossing the Rapture
exposed.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.2013.Ba ... posed.html

Rapio . ex raptabus, Gell. ap. Charis. p. 39 P.), v. a. root harp; Gr. harp, a bird of prey, harpag, harpaz; Lat. rapidus, rapax, rapina, etc.; cf. Sanscr. lup-, lumpmi, rumpo; Gr. lup, to seize and carry off, to snatch, tear, drag, draw, or hurry away
volucri spe et cogitatione rapi a domo, Cic. Rep. 2, 4, 7:
B. With the idea of swiftness predominating:

Harpage Khrao I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., khrein muthsato Phoibos [Abaddon, Apolyon] 8.79: khrein ek daphns gualn hupo Parnsoio h.Ap.396
humndian Id.Ion681 [680] while she is childless and deprived of children. What prophecy have you sung, oracular child of Leto? From where did this boy, nourished at your shrine, step forth
II. Pass., to be declared, proclaimed by an oracle, tis oun ekhrsth; E.Ion792; mostly of the oracle delivered, ta ek Delphn hout t Krois ekhrsth receive a divine revelation,
b. khrsthai tini (without phil) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11;


Rick Atchley and the seven churches including Revelation 21 proving that the instrumental discorders WILL NOT (Are not) in the NEW THING Jesus promised.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Peppe ... rches.html

Mike Cope and the 2013 Annual bible Lectures will look at Revelation 5 by David Clayton.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.Lecture ... ion.5.html

Paul commanded that the elders TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. Therefore, your elders are probably SELF-SELECTED and are not Christians and therefore cannot be an elder of the Lord.

http://www.piney.com/2.Timothy.4.2.Givi ... ables.html

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November 24th, 2012, 12:34 am #2

Mike Cope and the 2013 Annual bible Lectures will look at Revelation 5 by David Clayton.

http://www.piney.cope/Pepperdone.Lectur ... ion.5.html

David's sermon on Revelation sees lots of music and rejoicing because of the "harps." He misses the point and, Pepperdine will miss the fact that Revelation 5 etc. proves that the Church under the rule of Christ proves that the ELDERS and BEASTS or governments and Levite-like musical worship deceivers will NOT be in the kingdom of Christ.

Since the stated purpose is to DIRECT young preachers away from the traditional Churches of Christ we will need to review a few more chapters in Revelation.
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November 24th, 2012, 12:34 am #3

Several of the present and past teachers at ACU are making a major drive to find a role in your church for a Female Prophesier.

http://www.piney.com/Doug.Hurley.Your.S ... y.ACU.html

This is consistent with the LU female drive for Ignatian Meditation and "using your imagination" to interpret Scripture. This along with the female and effeminate musical worship teams defines the Levites prophesying which is defined as soosthsaying or sorcery or witchcraft.

1 Corinthians 1

http://www.piney.com/1.Corinthians.1.html

Paul always EXCLUDES certain people and activities. For instance the WISE will be excluded based on prophecy. Paul asks WHERE are those wise? Well a wise person is a SOPHISTS: professional speakers, singers, instrument players and actors. Jesus called them hypocrites by pointing to Ezekiel 13


One of the silliest, Bible-empty whine coming out of ACU these days that Churches of Christ mistreat their women by not USING them by exposing them to the gaze of men lusting for something new.

http://www.piney.com/Ken.Cukrowski.Wome ... y.ACU.html

Wiley Clarkson confesses to feeling closer to heaven and we have to remind people that the "feeling" from slick speakers, singers and instrument players is that female kinda thing Paul called WRATH. Cukrowski thinks that the men too their ANGER out on people while praying (like some preachers.). In fact wrath is orge or ORGY which defined what Madison is trying to stroke up.

http://www.piney.com/Wiley.Clarkson.ACU ... scord.html

I have done a quick take on Rick Atchleys The Law of Silence. It is clear that he floats like a butterfly and does not have a remote hint about the Bible since he can fabricate or extricate sermons from the web or from the NACC. His video in jester suit really makes me wonder.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Law.of.Silence.html

Reviewing Barbara Rossing the Rapture
exposed.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.2013.Ba ... posed.html

Rapio . ex raptabus, Gell. ap. Charis. p. 39 P.), v. a. root harp; Gr. harp, a bird of prey, harpag, harpaz; Lat. rapidus, rapax, rapina, etc.; cf. Sanscr. lup-, lumpmi, rumpo; Gr. lup, to seize and carry off, to snatch, tear, drag, draw, or hurry away
volucri spe et cogitatione rapi a domo, Cic. Rep. 2, 4, 7:
B. With the idea of swiftness predominating:

Harpage Khrao I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., khrein muthsato Phoibos [Abaddon, Apolyon] 8.79: khrein ek daphns gualn hupo Parnsoio h.Ap.396
humndian Id.Ion681 [680] while she is childless and deprived of children. What prophecy have you sung, oracular child of Leto? From where did this boy, nourished at your shrine, step forth
II. Pass., to be declared, proclaimed by an oracle, tis oun ekhrsth; E.Ion792; mostly of the oracle delivered, ta ek Delphn hout t Krois ekhrsth receive a divine revelation,
b. khrsthai tini (without phil) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11;


Rick Atchley and the seven churches including Revelation 21 proving that the instrumental discorders WILL NOT (Are not) in the NEW THING Jesus promised.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Peppe ... rches.html

Mike Cope and the 2013 Annual bible Lectures will look at Revelation 5 by David Clayton.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.Lecture ... ion.5.html

Paul commanded that the elders TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. Therefore, your elders are probably SELF-SELECTED and are not Christians and therefore cannot be an elder of the Lord.

http://www.piney.com/2.Timothy.4.2.Givi ... ables.html

Mike Cope and the 2013 Annual bible Lectures will look at Revelation 5 by David Clayton.

http://www.piney.cope/Pepperdone.Lectur ... ion.5.html

David's sermon on Revelation sees lots of music and rejoicing because of the "harps." He misses the point and, Pepperdine will miss the fact that Revelation 5 etc. proves that the Church under the rule of Christ proves that the ELDERS and BEASTS or governments and Levite-like musical worship deceivers will NOT be in the kingdom of Christ.

Since the stated purpose is to DIRECT young preachers away from the traditional Churches of Christ we will need to review a few more chapters in Revelation.
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November 30th, 2012, 10:00 pm #4

Barbara Rossing will be at Pepperdine 2013 to debunk the rapture. Well, it's certain that when we "lift off" will never return. However, what theologians are NOT permitted to know is that the RAPTURE is now taking place among all of those groups which fell for the NEW STYLE OF MUSIC AND DRAMA: the definition of the Beast.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.2013.Ba ... posed.html

Rapio . ex raptabus, Gell. ap. Charis. p. 39 P.), v. a. root harp; Gr. harp, a bird of prey, harpag, harpaz; Lat. rapidus, rapax, rapina, etc.; cf. Sanscr. lup-, lumpmi, rumpo; Gr. lup, to seize and carry off, to snatch, tear, drag, draw, or hurry away
volucri spe et cogitatione rapi a domo, Cic. Rep. 2, 4, 7:
B. With the idea of swiftness predominating:

Harpage Khrao I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., khrein muthsato Phoibos [Abaddon, Apolyon] 8.79: khrein ek daphns gualn hupo Parnsoio h.Ap.396
humndian Id.Ion681 [680] while she is childless and deprived of children. What prophecy have you sung, oracular child of Leto? From where did this boy, nourished at your shrine, step forth
II. Pass., to be declared, proclaimed by an oracle, tis oun ekhrsth; E.Ion792; mostly of the oracle delivered, ta ek Delphn hout t Krois ekhrsth receive a divine revelation,
b. khrsthai tini (without phil) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11;
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December 1st, 2012, 5:55 am #5

If you have ever seen the video that Rick Atchley did for those churches that were going to add instrumental music, he makes a comment that suggest that the church needs to have positions for the talent that comes from the Christian schools. I believe Rick's true intent is to make churches just a employeer site for religious drama graduates. I think that good people in the church need to wake up and give their contribution directly to the needy and by pass the administrative fees that are collected through our churches. I know that more good will come from that, rather than contribute to a secular church service. The church that Rick Atchley is advocating is not built on the love of Jesus, but is built on the full collection plate. I don't see any person like Rick Atchley following the life of Jesus as much as I see them following the life of Judas.

We need to teach people to shun The Rick Atcley's of the world and start loving people the way Jesus did.
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December 3rd, 2012, 3:33 am #6

How we manage our personal charity is up to us, including how comfortable we are with the congregation that we attend. Remember that in Paul's time some who preached supported themselves (tent making)and others were paid (Cephas). Some congregations do fine work, and in many places the existence of a building and a preacher are in themselves a part of the missionary outreach of spreading of the gospel. In many other places the preacher is a teacher, or sells insurance, and that is o.k., too. Many congregations participate in the spirit of giving honor to all men but to the household of faith first. Especially this time of year.

Unless you know how to find a specific individual or a specific family to help there are always going to be "administrative fees." I no longer participate in UGF, for instance, but it is a personal matter. I give small sums to various charities, including the Church of Christ Relief organization, which is detested by some. However, how does my congregation know where to put its best resources? We could give to a specific congregation as we did after 9/11, we could give to specific individuals who stop by from time to time, and we do, and we could help local families both in and out of the Brotherhood, which we do. Are you suggesting that if a congregation chooses to hire a "professional" to look after a "ministery" that is unbiblical? Most charity and benevolence are managed by volunteers, deacons usually, who are totally unpaid and also amateurs.

If you are linking your thoughts to what seemingly is an effort to change a congregation into a mega-church, I think that you are correct. Congregations with multiple ministers of this and that have to first collect the pay of the ministers. Unfortunately, to do that entices them to bring in people any way they can, sometimes with pagan-like activities, sometimes by "holy entertainment", etc., but in most cases you can rely on the money that you give to your congregation being used appropriately. We should not become overly cynical.
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December 3rd, 2012, 1:39 pm #7

We agree there are the pressures for churches to become Mega-churches. Our elders made a comment that for every one hundred people there needs to be a staff member, according to some church growth standard. When there was a budget surplus, they removed the song leader(who was there out of love) and hired a worship minister(who will be there until the next Pay offer comes around). I have found that the people that attend church for no other reason than to try and follow what is believed to be right in the eyes of God, tend to go to any length to make the church a great place to be. An employee on the other hand has his/her set hours and his/her job description, which can be frustrating to any employee that has to answer for a pay check. The employee's motives could be an agenda that is contrary to Christ life. It is sickening to me to hear Rick Atchley speak to wanting to retire on the money that he took from the people that sacrificed to his cause and often times those giving people are not be able to retire due to financial reasons. Could Rick not get a job and support the work like everyone else does and teach people about Jesus out of pure conviction and Love? He is showing everyone a way, which is not the way Jesus taught us. Jesus never passed a collection plate to support himself or had anyone else collect money for him. Christ did pass the "collection plate" to provide for people in need, but never for himself. He did encourage people to work their trade and benefit monetarily from that exchange.

Also, would Jesus be considered a professional by our standards today? He did not have a degree and he did not teach that we had to be certified by an educational process to receive the Holy spirit. There can be found the universal appeal of the message of Christ, you need to believe and obey which is the only qualification for the Journey, not a degree. There are many places that would sell such degrees and elderships seem to value an individual with a degree over the good Christ-like member, when it comes to ministering to the congregation.
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December 3rd, 2012, 5:47 pm #8

Several of the present and past teachers at ACU are making a major drive to find a role in your church for a Female Prophesier.

http://www.piney.com/Doug.Hurley.Your.S ... y.ACU.html

This is consistent with the LU female drive for Ignatian Meditation and "using your imagination" to interpret Scripture. This along with the female and effeminate musical worship teams defines the Levites prophesying which is defined as soosthsaying or sorcery or witchcraft.

1 Corinthians 1

http://www.piney.com/1.Corinthians.1.html

Paul always EXCLUDES certain people and activities. For instance the WISE will be excluded based on prophecy. Paul asks WHERE are those wise? Well a wise person is a SOPHISTS: professional speakers, singers, instrument players and actors. Jesus called them hypocrites by pointing to Ezekiel 13


One of the silliest, Bible-empty whine coming out of ACU these days that Churches of Christ mistreat their women by not USING them by exposing them to the gaze of men lusting for something new.

http://www.piney.com/Ken.Cukrowski.Wome ... y.ACU.html

Wiley Clarkson confesses to feeling closer to heaven and we have to remind people that the "feeling" from slick speakers, singers and instrument players is that female kinda thing Paul called WRATH. Cukrowski thinks that the men too their ANGER out on people while praying (like some preachers.). In fact wrath is orge or ORGY which defined what Madison is trying to stroke up.

http://www.piney.com/Wiley.Clarkson.ACU ... scord.html

I have done a quick take on Rick Atchleys The Law of Silence. It is clear that he floats like a butterfly and does not have a remote hint about the Bible since he can fabricate or extricate sermons from the web or from the NACC. His video in jester suit really makes me wonder.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Law.of.Silence.html

Reviewing Barbara Rossing the Rapture
exposed.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.2013.Ba ... posed.html

Rapio . ex raptabus, Gell. ap. Charis. p. 39 P.), v. a. root harp; Gr. harp, a bird of prey, harpag, harpaz; Lat. rapidus, rapax, rapina, etc.; cf. Sanscr. lup-, lumpmi, rumpo; Gr. lup, to seize and carry off, to snatch, tear, drag, draw, or hurry away
volucri spe et cogitatione rapi a domo, Cic. Rep. 2, 4, 7:
B. With the idea of swiftness predominating:

Harpage Khrao I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., khrein muthsato Phoibos [Abaddon, Apolyon] 8.79: khrein ek daphns gualn hupo Parnsoio h.Ap.396
humndian Id.Ion681 [680] while she is childless and deprived of children. What prophecy have you sung, oracular child of Leto? From where did this boy, nourished at your shrine, step forth
II. Pass., to be declared, proclaimed by an oracle, tis oun ekhrsth; E.Ion792; mostly of the oracle delivered, ta ek Delphn hout t Krois ekhrsth receive a divine revelation,
b. khrsthai tini (without phil) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11;


Rick Atchley and the seven churches including Revelation 21 proving that the instrumental discorders WILL NOT (Are not) in the NEW THING Jesus promised.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Peppe ... rches.html

Mike Cope and the 2013 Annual bible Lectures will look at Revelation 5 by David Clayton.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.Lecture ... ion.5.html

Paul commanded that the elders TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. Therefore, your elders are probably SELF-SELECTED and are not Christians and therefore cannot be an elder of the Lord.

http://www.piney.com/2.Timothy.4.2.Givi ... ables.html

The Spirit OF Christ defined the future REST day both inclusively as a School of the Word: excluded was "vocal or instrumental rejoicing" and that included high-sounding rhetoric all defined as the hypocritic arts and crafts.

http://www.piney.com//Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit.html

Christ actually FORBIDS you to pay for the free water of the Word. Music is popular because it is most powerful in "making the lambs dumb before the slaughter==the job of the Parasite" and lifting them up to cut their throats (the slaughter priest or Heretic)

Because "church" as we know it is a distortion of the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness, I have had to conclude that anyone who makes "pastoring" a PROFESSION (seeing godliness as a means of financial gain) cannot either know nor practice what Jesus died to give us free of charge.



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December 4th, 2012, 4:50 am #9

Several of the present and past teachers at ACU are making a major drive to find a role in your church for a Female Prophesier.

http://www.piney.com/Doug.Hurley.Your.S ... y.ACU.html

This is consistent with the LU female drive for Ignatian Meditation and "using your imagination" to interpret Scripture. This along with the female and effeminate musical worship teams defines the Levites prophesying which is defined as soosthsaying or sorcery or witchcraft.

1 Corinthians 1

http://www.piney.com/1.Corinthians.1.html

Paul always EXCLUDES certain people and activities. For instance the WISE will be excluded based on prophecy. Paul asks WHERE are those wise? Well a wise person is a SOPHISTS: professional speakers, singers, instrument players and actors. Jesus called them hypocrites by pointing to Ezekiel 13


One of the silliest, Bible-empty whine coming out of ACU these days that Churches of Christ mistreat their women by not USING them by exposing them to the gaze of men lusting for something new.

http://www.piney.com/Ken.Cukrowski.Wome ... y.ACU.html

Wiley Clarkson confesses to feeling closer to heaven and we have to remind people that the "feeling" from slick speakers, singers and instrument players is that female kinda thing Paul called WRATH. Cukrowski thinks that the men too their ANGER out on people while praying (like some preachers.). In fact wrath is orge or ORGY which defined what Madison is trying to stroke up.

http://www.piney.com/Wiley.Clarkson.ACU ... scord.html

I have done a quick take on Rick Atchleys The Law of Silence. It is clear that he floats like a butterfly and does not have a remote hint about the Bible since he can fabricate or extricate sermons from the web or from the NACC. His video in jester suit really makes me wonder.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Law.of.Silence.html

Reviewing Barbara Rossing the Rapture
exposed.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.2013.Ba ... posed.html

Rapio . ex raptabus, Gell. ap. Charis. p. 39 P.), v. a. root harp; Gr. harp, a bird of prey, harpag, harpaz; Lat. rapidus, rapax, rapina, etc.; cf. Sanscr. lup-, lumpmi, rumpo; Gr. lup, to seize and carry off, to snatch, tear, drag, draw, or hurry away
volucri spe et cogitatione rapi a domo, Cic. Rep. 2, 4, 7:
B. With the idea of swiftness predominating:

Harpage Khrao I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., khrein muthsato Phoibos [Abaddon, Apolyon] 8.79: khrein ek daphns gualn hupo Parnsoio h.Ap.396
humndian Id.Ion681 [680] while she is childless and deprived of children. What prophecy have you sung, oracular child of Leto? From where did this boy, nourished at your shrine, step forth
II. Pass., to be declared, proclaimed by an oracle, tis oun ekhrsth; E.Ion792; mostly of the oracle delivered, ta ek Delphn hout t Krois ekhrsth receive a divine revelation,
b. khrsthai tini (without phil) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11;


Rick Atchley and the seven churches including Revelation 21 proving that the instrumental discorders WILL NOT (Are not) in the NEW THING Jesus promised.

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Peppe ... rches.html

Mike Cope and the 2013 Annual bible Lectures will look at Revelation 5 by David Clayton.

http://www.piney.com/Pepperdine.Lecture ... ion.5.html

Paul commanded that the elders TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. Therefore, your elders are probably SELF-SELECTED and are not Christians and therefore cannot be an elder of the Lord.

http://www.piney.com/2.Timothy.4.2.Givi ... ables.html

[color=#000000" size="3" face="times]AM (December 3, 2012, 8:39 a.m.): "When there was a budget surplus, they removed the song leader(who was there out of love) and hired a worship minister(who will be there until the next Pay offer comes around). ... Jesus never passed a collection plate to support himself or had anyone else collect money for him. Christ did pass the 'collection plate' to provide for people in need, but never for himself."[/color]

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Regardless of the process of the "collection" or "contribution" or "gatherings," let us not forget the purpose of giving.

It is "concerning the collection for the saints" (I Cor. 16:1,2)

It is about "to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem" Rom. 15:25-26,31).

From the message above by AM, we also find a good differentiation between: (a) someone who leads singing [who is there "out of love" or voluntarily] and (b) an administrative employee with the man-ordained church office of "Worship Leader."

The latter is a man-ordained "church office" -- often more well-known than the "office of an elder."

The secular job of "musical director" turned into a full-time "spiritual office" of a wagging musician for 3 hours per week certainly contributes to the spread of what appears to be an incurable "staff infection." At the expense of what's being collected for the needy saints!!![/color]
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December 9th, 2012, 4:55 am #10

bumped for a net take on Rick Atchley's Law of Silence. I hate to tell him but the Disciples-Christian churches invented the "law of silence" meaning if God hath not said "Thou Shalt Not" then you can DO IT and it becomes the will of Jesus

http://www.piney.com/Rick.Atchley.Law.of.Silence.html

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