Concernedmembers HERE.....REPENT

Concernedmembers HERE.....REPENT

David Fields
David Fields

June 8th, 2011, 8:46 pm #1

Donnie,
BECAUSE....you have steadily instituted your editing policy against me I will let you have it.
BECAUSE....you continue to deviate from answering my questions pertaining to your sins against the Word of God....you can have it.
BECAUSE....it seems that only myself and you and a few others seem to want to carry on about this or any subject matter here (your false cry of Wolf! Wolf! is futile)....you can have it
BECAUSE.....I have better things to do.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I have proven to you from God's Word, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have sinned, and you care not to change.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I know I will give Bill Crump his opportunity to toot by telling me me 'don't let the shutting door hit you on the way out'....you can have it.
BECAUSE....you have closed your minds and therefore I have no other recourse, but to tell you....
Mark 6:11
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.

LASTLY....my warnings are doing no good.....you and Bill and Ken have set fast in your evil ways of ridiculing the church.....quit abusing and for once....LISTEN to God through His Word.....and REPENT!!!
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

June 8th, 2011, 9:16 pm #2

Well, at least Dave now has his own personal thread where he can scream, "You are cursed; You are a sinner; Repent! Repent!" to his heart's content.

Have at it, Dave. Scream on and dream on! The winking face enjoys your hysterical show.

BTW, I'm sure it took great courage for you to use your REAL name here. That says something, at least.
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Joined: January 2nd, 2005, 6:45 am

June 8th, 2011, 9:25 pm #3

Donnie,
BECAUSE....you have steadily instituted your editing policy against me I will let you have it.
BECAUSE....you continue to deviate from answering my questions pertaining to your sins against the Word of God....you can have it.
BECAUSE....it seems that only myself and you and a few others seem to want to carry on about this or any subject matter here (your false cry of Wolf! Wolf! is futile)....you can have it
BECAUSE.....I have better things to do.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I have proven to you from God's Word, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have sinned, and you care not to change.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I know I will give Bill Crump his opportunity to toot by telling me me 'don't let the shutting door hit you on the way out'....you can have it.
BECAUSE....you have closed your minds and therefore I have no other recourse, but to tell you....
Mark 6:11
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.

LASTLY....my warnings are doing no good.....you and Bill and Ken have set fast in your evil ways of ridiculing the church.....quit abusing and for once....LISTEN to God through His Word.....and REPENT!!!
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Dave,

I know you are aware that only "self-righteous" judgments [reserved by truth-loving Christians for God only] are declarations (unbecoming of an elder/ex-elder) being edited out. [Notice that you got away and have your way this time with your initial post unedited--only to let the readers know the kind of behavior that you exude and, maybe unbeknownst to you, that is being exposed. Such behavior is not to be emulated by others.]

In reality, you haven't proven anything. All you have done is affirm that (with the exception of the necessary editing), those same arguments you presented above are all applicable to YOU.

There is no sin committed here as we endeavor to continue to warn about dangers facing the church of Christ Jesus. There are numerous examples in the Scripture of warnings to God's followers of impending dangers coming their way. What you think or opine about ConcernedMembers does not matter as it has no scriptural backing. Keep that to yourself--and you will be a happier Christian.[/color]
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

June 8th, 2011, 9:27 pm #4

Donnie,
BECAUSE....you have steadily instituted your editing policy against me I will let you have it.
BECAUSE....you continue to deviate from answering my questions pertaining to your sins against the Word of God....you can have it.
BECAUSE....it seems that only myself and you and a few others seem to want to carry on about this or any subject matter here (your false cry of Wolf! Wolf! is futile)....you can have it
BECAUSE.....I have better things to do.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I have proven to you from God's Word, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have sinned, and you care not to change.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I know I will give Bill Crump his opportunity to toot by telling me me 'don't let the shutting door hit you on the way out'....you can have it.
BECAUSE....you have closed your minds and therefore I have no other recourse, but to tell you....
Mark 6:11
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.

LASTLY....my warnings are doing no good.....you and Bill and Ken have set fast in your evil ways of ridiculing the church.....quit abusing and for once....LISTEN to God through His Word.....and REPENT!!!
Dave did manage to get one thing right: "[M]y warnings are doing no good."

Dave's "warnings" could not possibly do any good, because neither we nor anyone else could ever possibly take Dave seriously. The way Dave has behaved on this site has certainly precluded our taking him seriously. Presenting hysterical outbursts of, "You are cursed; You are a sinner; Repent! Repent!" only make one out to be a laughing stock. That's most unfortunate.
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Dave
Dave

June 8th, 2011, 10:05 pm #5

Donnie,
BECAUSE....you have steadily instituted your editing policy against me I will let you have it.
BECAUSE....you continue to deviate from answering my questions pertaining to your sins against the Word of God....you can have it.
BECAUSE....it seems that only myself and you and a few others seem to want to carry on about this or any subject matter here (your false cry of Wolf! Wolf! is futile)....you can have it
BECAUSE.....I have better things to do.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I have proven to you from God's Word, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have sinned, and you care not to change.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I know I will give Bill Crump his opportunity to toot by telling me me 'don't let the shutting door hit you on the way out'....you can have it.
BECAUSE....you have closed your minds and therefore I have no other recourse, but to tell you....
Mark 6:11
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.

LASTLY....my warnings are doing no good.....you and Bill and Ken have set fast in your evil ways of ridiculing the church.....quit abusing and for once....LISTEN to God through His Word.....and REPENT!!!
Donnie, you said..."There are numerous examples in the Scripture of warnings to God's followers of impending dangers coming their way."

Yes, warnings BETWEEN brethren, BUT there are NO examples where it should ever be done in front of the ungodly, which is what you are doing here at concernedmembers.

1 Corinthians 6 (KJV)
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4If then ye have JUDGMENTS OF THINGS PERTAINING TO THIS LIFE, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.


THE WORD of God specifically states that disputes within the brotherhood, whether for law (vs 1) or for any matters (vs 4), should not be presented before the ungodly, which is what this site does.
Anyone who supports this site, therefore, engages in sin. Paul speaks directly to YOU in verse 5.....HEAR YE THIS.....Paul speaks to your SHAME because of what you have done here by bringing it before the ungodly.

Matter closed.....maybe not by you or the ones who support this site....but God's Word has the last say....always.
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June 8th, 2011, 11:15 pm #6

[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]Dave, your accusations are nebulous. You need to clarify as to which dispute you are dealing with at the moment:[/color]
  • [color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times](1) The dispute among the elders at Madison leading up to the eventual upheaval in 2001. Keep in mind that they were divided over the implementation of certain culture-driven schemes for "church growth" ("Community Church Movement" style) proposed by the change agents. Subsequently, the majority (not by much) ruled over the other elders who simply said "NO, thanks" and whose deep respect for God's instructions DID NOT COUNT. Of course, we know that these other elders, who were concerned about preserving the unity of the congregation, did not want the raucous argumentation to continue and simply resigned or left. And the massive exodus of many faithful members, at no fault of their own, ensued.[/color]

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    </li>
  • [color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times](2) What you, Dave, opine as a dispute that the ConcernedMembers website has "created" between whom and whom?[/color]</li>
[color=#0000FF" size="3" face="times]There is a colossal difference between: (1) the real dispute and (2) the Dave-imagined dispute.

Which dispute would you like to discuss first?[/color]
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June 9th, 2011, 1:12 am #7

Madison conspired to change the church into a "theater for holy entertainment." That was the slipped confession which prompted a call to me wanting to know what I knew. I knew nothing except the purpose Driven Cult patternism.

The goal was to make the people think they were on a train to "Birmingham" but we gonna switch their cars to go to Louisville (or some place) 'cause that's where we gonna take em. The weeping widows would have to weep.

The latest home page which says about nothing still lists their PURPOSE DRIVEN goal to focus primarily on music. That was the original purpose.

Because Christ defined the Church of Christ in the wilderness both inclusively and exclusively, the godly people attended synagogue on the REST day, Jesus endorsed the synagogue and when He assembled with the Christians He "synagogued." That defines the ekklesia or church inclusively and exclusively.

That was the historic understanding and the Restoration goal of Calvin and the Campbells:

Church is A School of Christ (the Bible)
Worship is Reading and Musing the Word of God (Christ's pattern)

Therefore, the honorable leader's goal was to deconstruct Madison from being a School of the Word to being a pagan "worship center."

Therefore, neither the NEW pliable elders and the Alpha Goat nor their institute has any right to the yo-yo, yo-yo, call for RULES of Christianity which is hysteria.
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Dr. Bill Crump
Dr. Bill Crump

June 9th, 2011, 1:37 am #8

Donnie, you said..."There are numerous examples in the Scripture of warnings to God's followers of impending dangers coming their way."

Yes, warnings BETWEEN brethren, BUT there are NO examples where it should ever be done in front of the ungodly, which is what you are doing here at concernedmembers.

1 Corinthians 6 (KJV)
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4If then ye have JUDGMENTS OF THINGS PERTAINING TO THIS LIFE, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.


THE WORD of God specifically states that disputes within the brotherhood, whether for law (vs 1) or for any matters (vs 4), should not be presented before the ungodly, which is what this site does.
Anyone who supports this site, therefore, engages in sin. Paul speaks directly to YOU in verse 5.....HEAR YE THIS.....Paul speaks to your SHAME because of what you have done here by bringing it before the ungodly.

Matter closed.....maybe not by you or the ones who support this site....but God's Word has the last say....always.
In a thread like this, I really don't see much need to read Dave's posts in great detail, because I already know the gist of what he has to say. And what he does say is just the same thing over and over.
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June 9th, 2011, 3:27 am #9

Donnie,
BECAUSE....you have steadily instituted your editing policy against me I will let you have it.
BECAUSE....you continue to deviate from answering my questions pertaining to your sins against the Word of God....you can have it.
BECAUSE....it seems that only myself and you and a few others seem to want to carry on about this or any subject matter here (your false cry of Wolf! Wolf! is futile)....you can have it
BECAUSE.....I have better things to do.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I have proven to you from God's Word, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have sinned, and you care not to change.....you can have it.
BECAUSE.....I know I will give Bill Crump his opportunity to toot by telling me me 'don't let the shutting door hit you on the way out'....you can have it.
BECAUSE....you have closed your minds and therefore I have no other recourse, but to tell you....
Mark 6:11
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.

LASTLY....my warnings are doing no good.....you and Bill and Ken have set fast in your evil ways of ridiculing the church.....quit abusing and for once....LISTEN to God through His Word.....and REPENT!!!
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