Central Pointe Church of Christ, Duncanville Tx.

Central Pointe Church of Christ, Duncanville Tx.

Tee
Tee

July 5th, 2005, 2:01 pm #1

I visited the Central Pointe "church of Christ" this past weekend for their building dedication, and I saw some things that I thought were contrary to how God says we ought to worship him. Some of the things I noticed were:

1.) Women (whom the preacher refers to as his "Angels") ushering, and serving on the collection.

2.) Praise Teams ("Praise Leaders")

3.) The preacher was said to have been "re-baptized", once they got their new church building.

I know this is not right in the Church of Christ. Has anyone else observed these things???
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Marie
Marie

July 13th, 2005, 8:53 pm #2

Central Pointe is on its way to being a denominational church. I guess the bigger the better is there philosophy. Whatever happen to saving souls? "Pastor" Dulin must have been re-baptized because we don't have pastors in the church of christ. I feel sorry for this church. They need much prayer. But, I din't know if that will even help.
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David
David

July 30th, 2005, 1:28 pm #3

I visited the Central Pointe "church of Christ" this past weekend for their building dedication, and I saw some things that I thought were contrary to how God says we ought to worship him. Some of the things I noticed were:

1.) Women (whom the preacher refers to as his "Angels") ushering, and serving on the collection.

2.) Praise Teams ("Praise Leaders")

3.) The preacher was said to have been "re-baptized", once they got their new church building.

I know this is not right in the Church of Christ. Has anyone else observed these things???
Each congregation of the "Church of Christ" is autonomous and under the spiritual direction of its'local Elders. It is not the Biblical responsibility of outsiders to judge whether this body of believers or any other is a "True and correct" Church of Christ. Churches of Christ will have variations in worship styles and program focus because of this independence. If you want that kind of oversight and control, you need to go join with a protestant group that has a central control governing body like the Methodists. Praise God for local control in Churches of Christ!
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D'lorah
D'lorah

August 1st, 2005, 4:23 pm #4

Thank you David for your wonderful response. What cowards Tee and Marie are. Why would you go to a website for the world to see how some people in the churches of Christ treat each other? Central Pointe' and any other congregation has a right to be who they are. Just like your church or temple, your leaders, whether they pastors, preacher or pope, outlines how your church will be organized and operated. We all have a choices in life. We choose to marry or be single. We choose churches because something there has drawing power. The Word changes the lives of men and women and if we will win the world we must preach Jesus Christ. When we teach Jesus Christ we bring the believer to the church. Dogma and criticism has diminished your listening audience. Jesus didn't walk in comdeming men and women to hell.
Maybe you didn't understand what "Angels" do in the Central Pointe church. I'm sure there are events that happen in your church that others are not pleased with. But to run to a website and air your displeasure with another church's worship service is unthinkable. Since you didn't say how they conducted their worship (you mentioned Praise Team and women passing collection basket). Women pass the collection basket every Sunday at my church and the communion trays too. See since I can't reach down to the end of the pew to get the trays from the one who passes them I have to get it "passed to me by women sitting next to me". So maybe that's what you mean. Some things are just plain unthoughtful. Since you seem to be a bible believer, did it ever occur to you to take your acquisations or your "dismay" with their concept of worship that offended you to the leaders of that congregation? If you didn't you've commited sin against your brothers? And those with whom you have an "aught" with, now have an "aught" with you. Don't let the devil sift you like wheat Tee & Marie. And Marie I hope no one ever stops praying for you. And if you really don't believe that God can change a situation through prayer, get out of religion. You are not an agent of God. You deny the power of God, that's a move of the anti-Christ.
People are dying everyday. Let's stop fighting each other and GET TO WORK FOR THE LORD!
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j.j.
j.j.

August 2nd, 2005, 11:58 pm #5

Each congregation of the "Church of Christ" is autonomous and under the spiritual direction of its'local Elders. It is not the Biblical responsibility of outsiders to judge whether this body of believers or any other is a "True and correct" Church of Christ. Churches of Christ will have variations in worship styles and program focus because of this independence. If you want that kind of oversight and control, you need to go join with a protestant group that has a central control governing body like the Methodists. Praise God for local control in Churches of Christ!
David, you say it is "not the Biblical respon. of outsiders to judge this body of believers."
If that's the case then you probably need to get ready to edit out most of Paul's (the traveling missionary) epistles since he does that very thing! Have you read Romans or I Corinthians lately?! I'd call the apostle Paul a pretty good reference point for such behavior.
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David
David

August 6th, 2005, 1:17 pm #6

j.j............I am very aware of what the Apostle Paul did on his journeys and his work with churches. I am not sure you or anyone else alive today have his wisdom and divine direction. We have the scriptures to direct us today. We are talking about the Elders selected by a congregation of believers in Jesus Christ directing and leading an autonomous body according to the Bible. There are going to be areas of opinion (vs. Biblical absolutes) amoung Elders and the group of believers whom they are responsible. It is not your job or anyone else outside that body to pass judgement if they meet your "tests of Faith" other than those clearly taught in the Bible. Again I praise God for the independence of the Churches of Christ body of believers. We are not bound by the traditions and "higher ups" like most protestant bodies. If you don't "get it" then I am sorry for you and encourage further study of the Bible to understand this or again get in a Christian body that can dictate from a central council.
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Evon
Evon

August 16th, 2005, 6:29 pm #7

I visited the Central Pointe "church of Christ" this past weekend for their building dedication, and I saw some things that I thought were contrary to how God says we ought to worship him. Some of the things I noticed were:

1.) Women (whom the preacher refers to as his "Angels") ushering, and serving on the collection.

2.) Praise Teams ("Praise Leaders")

3.) The preacher was said to have been "re-baptized", once they got their new church building.

I know this is not right in the Church of Christ. Has anyone else observed these things???
I AM MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IN DALLAS AND FIND SOME OF THESE COMMENTS "HUMOROUS". THE TRUTH IS THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING TO BE ENTERTAINED OR FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS. THERE IS A TRUE WAY TO WORSHIP, THERE IS A TRUTH TO THE SCRIPTURE. SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN BE BLINDED BY HIS/HER OWN AMBITIONS AND FORGET ABOUT GOD'S PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO PREACH AND SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST WITHOUT ADDING OR TAKING AWAY FROM THE BIBLE. IS THIS A CONGREGATION THAT HAS DETOURED FROM TRADITIONAL WORSHIP? WE AS MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST CAN LEARN MANY THINGS FROM OTHER DENOMINATIONS, SPECIFICALLY BEING MORE ACTIVE AND PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT TO MENTION OUR OFFERINGS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE CANNOT ALLOW THE PRESENCE OF "SUPER CHURCHES" TO INFLUENCE OUR WAYS OF WORSHIP AND CAUSE US TO WORSHIP IN A WAY THAT IS NOT PLEASING AND RESPECTFUL TO GOD. WE SHOULD CONDUCT OURSELVES IN WORSHIP IN THE SAME MANNER WE WOULD CONDUCT OURSELVES INFRONT OF OUR PARENTS OR PEOPLE WE HOLD IN HIGH REGARDS. THAT IS WITH MUCH RESPECT!!!
A GREAT MISCONCEPTION FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IS THAT WE JUDGE OTHERS. THIS IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH. GOD IS VERY CLEAR WITH HIS LIKES AND DISLIKES. SO HOW IS IT JUDGING IF WE ARE BRINGING YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING THE LORD HAS CLEARLY STATED HE IS DISPLEASED. FOR EXAMPLE, HOMOSEXUALITY. GOD WAS VERY CLEAR ON THIS ISSUE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY HOMOSEXUALITY, MAN HAS DECIDED TO MAKE THIS A CONFUSING TOPIC. REMEMBER, DURING THIS TIME-TERMINOLOGY WAS DIFFER FROM NOW.
WHAT IS MY POINT? GOD IS VERY CLEAR WITH HIS LAWS AND EXPECTATIONS. OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF. A CHURCH WAS ESTABLISED WHEN JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS. WE SHOULD BE WORSHIPPING AND CONDUCTING SERVICE AND OUR LIVES ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT.
AND TO MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH, STOP ALLOWING PREACHERS TO BECOME GREATER THAN THE MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION. THE GOSPEL HAS BECOME A MEANS OF MONEY RATHER THAN A MEANS OF MINISTERING.
SIGNED,
Evon
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Tee
Tee

August 17th, 2005, 8:37 pm #8

Each congregation of the "Church of Christ" is autonomous and under the spiritual direction of its'local Elders. It is not the Biblical responsibility of outsiders to judge whether this body of believers or any other is a "True and correct" Church of Christ. Churches of Christ will have variations in worship styles and program focus because of this independence. If you want that kind of oversight and control, you need to go join with a protestant group that has a central control governing body like the Methodists. Praise God for local control in Churches of Christ!
David,

You were certainly right when you stated that each local congregation is autonomous of one another in the Church of Christ. I know that I couldn't go to another congregation and tell the leadership where their congregation's bank account should be set up, or how to set up their ministries (as long as they fall in line with God's word). BUT, when it comes to the way in which we are supposed to worship God, there is only ONE way! Let's not confuse autonomy, with "WORSHIP ANY WAY YOU FEEL IS RIGHT". To tell you the truth, God is not really concerned with OUR feelings. In His word (the Bible), God states the way in which HE wants us to worship HIM. There were no women serving on the collection table in the New Testament Church. The were no women ushering in the New Testament Church. There were no praise teams in the New Testament Church. So, why do we feel the need to change the way God wants us to worhsip HIM??? So, I do feel that I can say something when I visit another congragation in the Church of Christ, and their method of worship does not fall in line with the way in which God has stated that He should be worshipped. As humans, alot of our actions are based upon what we "feel" at the time. And I'm sorry to say, but when we stand before God on Judgement Day, He's not gonna ask us anything about how we "feel." He's going to judge us according to HIS WORD, and whether or not we've lived accordingly.

In Christian Love,
Tee

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d'lorah
d'lorah

August 31st, 2005, 7:53 pm #9

Tee,
Use what ever "christian principles" you are supposed to possess and stop putting this garbage on this website. I am baptist, yet I know what your religion teaches. I am a bible believer (not like the churches of Christ who stumble over everything and don't recognized truth when you see it) and we don't all agree over every issue, but we beleive in our church what the bible says in Matthew 18 and if you are sill confused about your religious duty then turn to Galatians 6:1 (are you spiritual Tee?) You seem to be big on "traditions" because you've not stated one scripture to back up what you believe. Stop being an agent of the devil and get the truth out to those who need Jesus. Stop hiding behind the website and get to work. Our church is growing because we are not condeming people to hell, but are trying to find out what in "hell" do they want? My buddies who've read this rhetoric are just laughing their heads off at the hypocracy of you and your religious belief. If I was a member of the church of Christ I would be so ashamed. Stick with the bible not with your traditions. Oh by the way, I used to be coc, but people like you made me leave.
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Reasoner
Reasoner

September 5th, 2005, 5:38 am #10

I AM MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IN DALLAS AND FIND SOME OF THESE COMMENTS "HUMOROUS". THE TRUTH IS THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING TO BE ENTERTAINED OR FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS. THERE IS A TRUE WAY TO WORSHIP, THERE IS A TRUTH TO THE SCRIPTURE. SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN BE BLINDED BY HIS/HER OWN AMBITIONS AND FORGET ABOUT GOD'S PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO PREACH AND SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST WITHOUT ADDING OR TAKING AWAY FROM THE BIBLE. IS THIS A CONGREGATION THAT HAS DETOURED FROM TRADITIONAL WORSHIP? WE AS MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST CAN LEARN MANY THINGS FROM OTHER DENOMINATIONS, SPECIFICALLY BEING MORE ACTIVE AND PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT TO MENTION OUR OFFERINGS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE CANNOT ALLOW THE PRESENCE OF "SUPER CHURCHES" TO INFLUENCE OUR WAYS OF WORSHIP AND CAUSE US TO WORSHIP IN A WAY THAT IS NOT PLEASING AND RESPECTFUL TO GOD. WE SHOULD CONDUCT OURSELVES IN WORSHIP IN THE SAME MANNER WE WOULD CONDUCT OURSELVES INFRONT OF OUR PARENTS OR PEOPLE WE HOLD IN HIGH REGARDS. THAT IS WITH MUCH RESPECT!!!
A GREAT MISCONCEPTION FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IS THAT WE JUDGE OTHERS. THIS IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH. GOD IS VERY CLEAR WITH HIS LIKES AND DISLIKES. SO HOW IS IT JUDGING IF WE ARE BRINGING YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING THE LORD HAS CLEARLY STATED HE IS DISPLEASED. FOR EXAMPLE, HOMOSEXUALITY. GOD WAS VERY CLEAR ON THIS ISSUE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY HOMOSEXUALITY, MAN HAS DECIDED TO MAKE THIS A CONFUSING TOPIC. REMEMBER, DURING THIS TIME-TERMINOLOGY WAS DIFFER FROM NOW.
WHAT IS MY POINT? GOD IS VERY CLEAR WITH HIS LAWS AND EXPECTATIONS. OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF. A CHURCH WAS ESTABLISED WHEN JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS. WE SHOULD BE WORSHIPPING AND CONDUCTING SERVICE AND OUR LIVES ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT.
AND TO MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH, STOP ALLOWING PREACHERS TO BECOME GREATER THAN THE MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION. THE GOSPEL HAS BECOME A MEANS OF MONEY RATHER THAN A MEANS OF MINISTERING.
SIGNED,
Evon
Evon and Tee,

Would you please give me scripture for having a song leader? Would you also show me where the Bible says that the singing in the worship hour must be lead by one man?

Would you please give me scripture for who should pass the basket, or communion trays? Will I be condemned if my congregation has communion before the sermon and your congregation has it after the sermon?

Would you please give me scripture for having Ushers in the church and also that Ushers must be men?

I understand your opinion and I even understand your need to call your opinion THE TRUTH, but can we let the Bible have the last word on these issues? Can you use the Bible to answer my questions?


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