Are All Bibles The Same? Do All Bibles Contain The Inspired Word Of God?

Are All Bibles The Same? Do All Bibles Contain The Inspired Word Of God?

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July 1st, 2002, 1:38 am #1

"Do we really believe that Satan would leave the word
of God untouched? Satan's plan has already been finalized. It's been operating in parallel to God's word almost from the very beginning of the first Bible."
Welcome To A Bible Study And A Discussion
Of
Jeff Johnson's
Spiritual Deception in The Highest
Join us on a venture back in time to about 90 A.D. We will follow God's
word in 5000 plus manuscripts (The Majority Text). Go with us as we follow
it's preservation through the Peshitta Bible (Antioch), and the Italic
Bible (about 157 A.D.).


We will see the Waldenses (from about 120 A.D.) preserving God's word
through the Dark Ages, enduring persecution and murder by Rome.


Find out who Erasmus was and watch him as he translates the first Greek
Bible from God's Word.


See how Martin Luther, Tyndale, and King James helped preserve the True
Word of God.


Watch as Satan uses unbelievers, Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Eusebius, (In Egypt, around 200 A.D.) to write a bible using corrupted and altered Text (Minority Text). Then follow Satan's corrupted text as it is used for Jerome's Latin Bible (about 380 A.D.). You will see how the Catholic Church uses the corrupted text for their Bible and persecutes anyone that has the true Word of God.

Discover the Jesuits, the Jesuit Bible and their leader the "Black Pope".

In amazement watch as Satan's corrupted text comes forth again as the
Westcott and Hort Greek text (1881 A.D.), and becomes the basis for all modern bible versions.


Does this sound unbelievable?

Satan is not through. You will see him use more unbelievers to further
corrupt what has now become a counterfeit to the true Word of God.


Watch the Kittel brothers starting in 1937 at the direction of Hitler
further use the corrupted text to write a theological dictionary and bible
to facilitate the slaughter of Jews.


See which modern Bibles use the corrupted text, and even Hitler's work
to publish their Bibles.


Join With Us On This Journey! It will be an enlightenment.

There are 29 chapters in "Spiritual Deception In The Highest"

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July 14th, 2002, 10:22 pm #2

HOW CAN WE PROVE THAT SATAN HAS AND STILL IS TAMPERING WITH CERTAIN BIBLES

Wait a minute! That's a pretty strong question. We don't believe that's possible, --- do we? Surely all Bibles contain the Word of God. We trust them all, don't we? The only differences are to change "archaic" words into a more modern language style, --- right? There was never anyone in scholarly circles throughout history that would DARE take advantage of believing Christians and try to change our mind in an "underhanded" way about the Bible, --- was there?

Well --- maybe, --- just maybe this bears looking into. Mind you I'm a "Doubting Thomas", I might be from Missouri so you will just have to show me and also convience me!

First of all, do we want to trust our soul and the souls of our loved ones to those who have to make enough changes in our Bibles to qualify for a COPYRIGHT? According to the Library of Congress - U.S. Copyright Office in their list of "Frequently Asked Questions about Copyrights" question 49: "How much do I have to change in order to claim a copyright in someone else's work?", the answer is found in their Circular 14, paragraph 3:

"Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or to authorize someone else to create a new version of that work. Accordingly, you cannot claim copyright to another's work, no matter how much you change it, unless you have the owner's consent. See Circular 14."

Circular 14 says: "To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself."

NOTE: "DERIVATIVE WORKS" a.k.a. "new versions" include translations according to Circular 14.

So it looks like according to the "law of the land", all new Bible versions must be substantially different from each other. Now since all words do not mean the same thing, this known fact presented in "Circular 14" should make us want to check out history and be "--- comparing spiritual things with spiritual". We should each decide how far off target we can afford to be with our Bibles before our souls become compromised and we become "property of this world", Satan's that is, for all of eternity.

If Satan has tampered with any of the Bible versions that we study then there will be proof of his deception in the way he communicates thru "his written word".

.....1. He will imply that he is in power, even above God in places of "his word".

.....2. The Word of God will always be present in "his written word", just not all of it.

.....3. Christ will be shown to be less than Deity and more of "just a man" than He really is.

.....4. Most verses will contain very slight wording changes that change the meaning in context.

.....5. Important truths, words and verses will be completely gone.

.....6. There will be contradictions.

.....7. Salvation steps and Christian doctrine will be omitted in places to support "other doctrines".

We are told the changes that "Bible versions" have undergone do not affect one single Christian doctrine. But they do. There are doubts as to where the real Word of God exists today. We fool ourselves by consulting 2 or 3 or more versions to find God's Word. Christian faith is devastated and division has occurred. Yet no one will spend the time to find the truth and "compare spiritual things with spiritual." Is this the answer as to why we are not making an impact on the world today?
Is this why we have division in the Church of Christ? Is this where the threat of division lies?

We all know that Satan believes and would have us believe that he is equal to God. Does your Bible imply that possibly someone other than God "by" His Word made all things. What does it mean: "Through him all things were made; --- "? Could this be a subtle clue that Satan has influenced the use of "one single word" change from "by" to "through" to cast doubt that God thru His spoken Word made all things?

Don't we all know that God is the maker and not a conduit through which all things were made? If God is the "conduit (through)" who else are we to believe is the "real" maker? Is that not: "--- comparing spiritual things with spiritual" (1 Corinthians 2:13)?

Check your Bible and see if it uses "by" or "through" in John 1:3.

Now join with us in studying our Bibles to answer some interesting questions. We will use as a guide
the article by Jeff Johnson, "Spiritual Deception in the Highest", **PART ONE**, Chapter 1: Bible Comparison: A Broad Analysis & Chapter 2: Bible Comparison: (An Individual Analysis).

Please use your favorite Bible Version and answer the questions in Jeff's Bible Quiz: 20 Questions for this week's study. We look forward to your comments as we study to find exactly where God's Word is located.

Bobby M. Johnson, a member of the Church of Christ


Reference: U.S. Copyright Office
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July 15th, 2002, 6:47 pm #3

From
The Truth About Hell

By Terry Watkins

In Mark 9:46, Jesus Christ says about hell:
"Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Eight-foot long worms, found no other place in the world! The book, The Deep Sea, by Joseph Wallace (p.39), reads, "Perhaps the strangest of ocean creatures recently discovered are Riftia, the giant tube WORMS Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."


Don't look for Mark 9:46 in the NIV Bible. It's not there!

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July 15th, 2002, 7:52 pm #4

HOW CAN WE PROVE THAT SATAN HAS AND STILL IS TAMPERING WITH CERTAIN BIBLES

Wait a minute! That's a pretty strong question. We don't believe that's possible, --- do we? Surely all Bibles contain the Word of God. We trust them all, don't we? The only differences are to change "archaic" words into a more modern language style, --- right? There was never anyone in scholarly circles throughout history that would DARE take advantage of believing Christians and try to change our mind in an "underhanded" way about the Bible, --- was there?

Well --- maybe, --- just maybe this bears looking into. Mind you I'm a "Doubting Thomas", I might be from Missouri so you will just have to show me and also convience me!

First of all, do we want to trust our soul and the souls of our loved ones to those who have to make enough changes in our Bibles to qualify for a COPYRIGHT? According to the Library of Congress - U.S. Copyright Office in their list of "Frequently Asked Questions about Copyrights" question 49: "How much do I have to change in order to claim a copyright in someone else's work?", the answer is found in their Circular 14, paragraph 3:

"Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or to authorize someone else to create a new version of that work. Accordingly, you cannot claim copyright to another's work, no matter how much you change it, unless you have the owner's consent. See Circular 14."

Circular 14 says: "To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself."

NOTE: "DERIVATIVE WORKS" a.k.a. "new versions" include translations according to Circular 14.

So it looks like according to the "law of the land", all new Bible versions must be substantially different from each other. Now since all words do not mean the same thing, this known fact presented in "Circular 14" should make us want to check out history and be "--- comparing spiritual things with spiritual". We should each decide how far off target we can afford to be with our Bibles before our souls become compromised and we become "property of this world", Satan's that is, for all of eternity.

If Satan has tampered with any of the Bible versions that we study then there will be proof of his deception in the way he communicates thru "his written word".

.....1. He will imply that he is in power, even above God in places of "his word".

.....2. The Word of God will always be present in "his written word", just not all of it.

.....3. Christ will be shown to be less than Deity and more of "just a man" than He really is.

.....4. Most verses will contain very slight wording changes that change the meaning in context.

.....5. Important truths, words and verses will be completely gone.

.....6. There will be contradictions.

.....7. Salvation steps and Christian doctrine will be omitted in places to support "other doctrines".

We are told the changes that "Bible versions" have undergone do not affect one single Christian doctrine. But they do. There are doubts as to where the real Word of God exists today. We fool ourselves by consulting 2 or 3 or more versions to find God's Word. Christian faith is devastated and division has occurred. Yet no one will spend the time to find the truth and "compare spiritual things with spiritual." Is this the answer as to why we are not making an impact on the world today?
Is this why we have division in the Church of Christ? Is this where the threat of division lies?

We all know that Satan believes and would have us believe that he is equal to God. Does your Bible imply that possibly someone other than God "by" His Word made all things. What does it mean: "Through him all things were made; --- "? Could this be a subtle clue that Satan has influenced the use of "one single word" change from "by" to "through" to cast doubt that God thru His spoken Word made all things?

Don't we all know that God is the maker and not a conduit through which all things were made? If God is the "conduit (through)" who else are we to believe is the "real" maker? Is that not: "--- comparing spiritual things with spiritual" (1 Corinthians 2:13)?

Check your Bible and see if it uses "by" or "through" in John 1:3.

Now join with us in studying our Bibles to answer some interesting questions. We will use as a guide
the article by Jeff Johnson, "Spiritual Deception in the Highest", **PART ONE**, Chapter 1: Bible Comparison: A Broad Analysis & Chapter 2: Bible Comparison: (An Individual Analysis).

Please use your favorite Bible Version and answer the questions in Jeff's Bible Quiz: 20 Questions for this week's study. We look forward to your comments as we study to find exactly where God's Word is located.

Bobby M. Johnson, a member of the Church of Christ


Reference: U.S. Copyright Office
Click here to read chapters 1 & 2 of "Spiritual Deception In The Highest"<a href="mailto:YourFriend@TheirEmail.com?Subject=Spiritual_Deception_in_The_Highest&body=Thought_you_would_be_interested_in_this_Bible-Study_and_Discussion._http://www.SundaySchoolinExile.com/biblediscussion">
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July 16th, 2002, 3:18 am #5

HOW CAN WE PROVE THAT SATAN HAS AND STILL IS TAMPERING WITH CERTAIN BIBLES

Wait a minute! That's a pretty strong question. We don't believe that's possible, --- do we? Surely all Bibles contain the Word of God. We trust them all, don't we? The only differences are to change "archaic" words into a more modern language style, --- right? There was never anyone in scholarly circles throughout history that would DARE take advantage of believing Christians and try to change our mind in an "underhanded" way about the Bible, --- was there?

Well --- maybe, --- just maybe this bears looking into. Mind you I'm a "Doubting Thomas", I might be from Missouri so you will just have to show me and also convience me!

First of all, do we want to trust our soul and the souls of our loved ones to those who have to make enough changes in our Bibles to qualify for a COPYRIGHT? According to the Library of Congress - U.S. Copyright Office in their list of "Frequently Asked Questions about Copyrights" question 49: "How much do I have to change in order to claim a copyright in someone else's work?", the answer is found in their Circular 14, paragraph 3:

"Only the owner of copyright in a work has the right to prepare, or to authorize someone else to create a new version of that work. Accordingly, you cannot claim copyright to another's work, no matter how much you change it, unless you have the owner's consent. See Circular 14."

Circular 14 says: "To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself."

NOTE: "DERIVATIVE WORKS" a.k.a. "new versions" include translations according to Circular 14.

So it looks like according to the "law of the land", all new Bible versions must be substantially different from each other. Now since all words do not mean the same thing, this known fact presented in "Circular 14" should make us want to check out history and be "--- comparing spiritual things with spiritual". We should each decide how far off target we can afford to be with our Bibles before our souls become compromised and we become "property of this world", Satan's that is, for all of eternity.

If Satan has tampered with any of the Bible versions that we study then there will be proof of his deception in the way he communicates thru "his written word".

.....1. He will imply that he is in power, even above God in places of "his word".

.....2. The Word of God will always be present in "his written word", just not all of it.

.....3. Christ will be shown to be less than Deity and more of "just a man" than He really is.

.....4. Most verses will contain very slight wording changes that change the meaning in context.

.....5. Important truths, words and verses will be completely gone.

.....6. There will be contradictions.

.....7. Salvation steps and Christian doctrine will be omitted in places to support "other doctrines".

We are told the changes that "Bible versions" have undergone do not affect one single Christian doctrine. But they do. There are doubts as to where the real Word of God exists today. We fool ourselves by consulting 2 or 3 or more versions to find God's Word. Christian faith is devastated and division has occurred. Yet no one will spend the time to find the truth and "compare spiritual things with spiritual." Is this the answer as to why we are not making an impact on the world today?
Is this why we have division in the Church of Christ? Is this where the threat of division lies?

We all know that Satan believes and would have us believe that he is equal to God. Does your Bible imply that possibly someone other than God "by" His Word made all things. What does it mean: "Through him all things were made; --- "? Could this be a subtle clue that Satan has influenced the use of "one single word" change from "by" to "through" to cast doubt that God thru His spoken Word made all things?

Don't we all know that God is the maker and not a conduit through which all things were made? If God is the "conduit (through)" who else are we to believe is the "real" maker? Is that not: "--- comparing spiritual things with spiritual" (1 Corinthians 2:13)?

Check your Bible and see if it uses "by" or "through" in John 1:3.

Now join with us in studying our Bibles to answer some interesting questions. We will use as a guide
the article by Jeff Johnson, "Spiritual Deception in the Highest", **PART ONE**, Chapter 1: Bible Comparison: A Broad Analysis & Chapter 2: Bible Comparison: (An Individual Analysis).

Please use your favorite Bible Version and answer the questions in Jeff's Bible Quiz: 20 Questions for this week's study. We look forward to your comments as we study to find exactly where God's Word is located.

Bobby M. Johnson, a member of the Church of Christ


Reference: U.S. Copyright Office
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July 16th, 2002, 11:26 pm #6

Would you explain in the King James Acts 2:31.
If I use the King James I can prove in this verse that Christ went to HELL when he died. Do you think the tranlaters is correct using the word Hell?
The King James version is dead wrong here.

Jerry Willis

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Jerry, Jesus had a little business to take care of for us down there.
"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:40 (KJV)
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Kenneth Sublett
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July 17th, 2002, 1:55 pm #7

From
The Truth About Hell

By Terry Watkins

In Mark 9:46, Jesus Christ says about hell:
"Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Eight-foot long worms, found no other place in the world! The book, The Deep Sea, by Joseph Wallace (p.39), reads, "Perhaps the strangest of ocean creatures recently discovered are Riftia, the giant tube WORMS Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."


Don't look for Mark 9:46 in the NIV Bible. It's not there!

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The twin dogmas of denying a place of eternal punishment and the defense of instrumental music is a prophetic paradox because hell was created for Satan who used his heavenly gifts of music to seduce people away from the Word of God. While the deep-sea life of a totally different system of life is interesting, the Bible pictures the horrors of fire and a bed of maggots or worms as the final destruction of music which is exclusively Satan's device to shut God's mouth.

The picture of Hell was once king Solomon's "music grove." It was called Topheth and was named after the tabret: a musical instrument. This became the garbage dump of Jerusalem where fires were always burning but the king of Babylon could still go to such a place and lie on a bed of maggots. This was Sheol.

However, God pictures eternal places by comparing them to known places of horror. Now, people are wholly consumed by maggots or burned up in this picture of hell. Nevertheless, the Bible pictures the spiritual place inhabited by conscious souls. For instance, the king/queen of Babylon was a type of Lucifer who was the female musical enchanter in the garden of Eden:

Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. Isa 14:9
----- All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? Isa 14:10
----- Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms (maggots of purple) cover thee. Isa 14:11
----- How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isa 14:12
----- For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isa 14:13
----- I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isa 14:14
----- Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Isa 14:15

John Chrysostom wrote a letter to Theodore after his fall and asked

"Where are they now who used to strut through the market place with much pomp, and a crowd of attendants? who were clothed in silk and redolent with perfumes, and kept a table for their parasites, and were in constant attendance at the theatre?

"What has now become of all that parade of theirs? It is all gone;-the costly splendour of their banquets , the throng of musicians, the attentions of flatterers, the loud laughter, the relaxation of spirit, the enervation of mind, the voluptuous, abandoned, extravagant manner of life-it has all come to an end.

"Where now have all these things taken their flight? What has become of the body which enjoyed so much attention, and cleanliness. Go thy way to the coffin, behold the dust, the ashes, the worms, behold the loathsomeness of the place, and groan bitterly.

"And would that the penalty were limited to the ashes! but now transfer thy thought from the coffin and these worms to that undying worm, to the fire unquenchable, to the gnashing of teeth, to the outer darkness, to affliction and straitness, to the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, who although the owner of so much wealth, and clothed in purple could not become the owner of even a drop of water; and this when he was placed in a condition of such great necessity.

The Bible is filled with this association of music and eternal punishment, and the literal king of Ur has been preserved with the girl harpist's hands still on her harp: buried alive. If one is a false teacher he should spend his life convincing himself that hell does not exist. Whatever hell is, it is pictured as a place of conscious unhappiness far beyond just being totally destroyed.

However, the harps in revelation pictures the eternal joy of those who have met the tests, but the message for those still alive is to "preach the gospel."

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July 17th, 2002, 3:04 pm #8

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This is the TRIQUETRA a symbol of the trinity.

Later in church history the concept of the TRINITY or TRIAS was invented to refute Arianism which held Christ as only a creature, and the Holy Spirit was "deified" because God is pure or holy Spirit.

However, none of the church fathers ever picture the triune nature of the ONE GOD in terms now promoted by Max Lucado and Rubel Shelly as a "family" of gods. This probably originated in about 1942 by H. Leo Boles and the Gospel Advocate.

The TRIQUETRA is three equal arcs representing equality and the never ending plane represents eternity. Therefore, it can picture a GODHEAD made up of three family members: all equal but separated. The invisible fact is that this is the intersection of three equal circles where only the arcs are made visible as a "mystery"

It is used by modern trinitarians to represent three equal "god persons" or "people" and indeed can be seen as 666. This is not strange because the Nashville brand of TRI-THEISM infiltrating many churches of Christ has its foundation of a TRIAD of Gods in downtown Babylon.

We have locally experienced both the Gospel Advocate polytheism and the use of the triquetra to explain the newly-resurrected from the earth trinity of three separated members of the "god family." We (they) even WORSHIP the THREE NAMES of the God family.

The Restoration Movement leaders never CUT the Godhead up like a PECAN PIE but the rise of the end-time Babylon harlot religion demands the rise of Sophia as the SERPENT of wisdom and ZOE as the BEAST or female instructing principle forcing the male, and inferior, minor jehovah to worship them with MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAMS.

In place of "I and MY Father are one" the NIV reads: "I and THE Father are one." John 10:30

It is a violation of God's will because it attempts to make AN IDOL of the Godhead which no historical writer ever separates into three people.

Kenneth Sublett





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Jerry Willis
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July 23rd, 2002, 9:38 pm #9

Would you explain in the King James Acts 2:31.
If I use the King James I can prove in this verse that Christ went to HELL when he died. Do you think the tranlaters is correct using the word Hell?
The King James version is dead wrong here.

Jerry Willis

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Jerry, Jesus had a little business to take care of for us down there.
"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Matthew 12:40 (KJV)
I understand what Hell is, my question is, from what I read in Bro. Johnson letters, The King James is error free. The Translators used the word "Hell" in Acts.2:31 and this in not correct. It should be Hades.
So, the King James is also wrong. I use the New English virsion, and love it.

Jerry
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July 23rd, 2002, 9:38 pm #10

"Do we really believe that Satan would leave the word
of God untouched? Satan's plan has already been finalized. It's been operating in parallel to God's word almost from the very beginning of the first Bible."
Welcome To A Bible Study And A Discussion
Of
Jeff Johnson's
Spiritual Deception in The Highest
Join us on a venture back in time to about 90 A.D. We will follow God's
word in 5000 plus manuscripts (The Majority Text). Go with us as we follow
it's preservation through the Peshitta Bible (Antioch), and the Italic
Bible (about 157 A.D.).


We will see the Waldenses (from about 120 A.D.) preserving God's word
through the Dark Ages, enduring persecution and murder by Rome.


Find out who Erasmus was and watch him as he translates the first Greek
Bible from God's Word.


See how Martin Luther, Tyndale, and King James helped preserve the True
Word of God.


Watch as Satan uses unbelievers, Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Eusebius, (In Egypt, around 200 A.D.) to write a bible using corrupted and altered Text (Minority Text). Then follow Satan's corrupted text as it is used for Jerome's Latin Bible (about 380 A.D.). You will see how the Catholic Church uses the corrupted text for their Bible and persecutes anyone that has the true Word of God.

Discover the Jesuits, the Jesuit Bible and their leader the "Black Pope".

In amazement watch as Satan's corrupted text comes forth again as the
Westcott and Hort Greek text (1881 A.D.), and becomes the basis for all modern bible versions.


Does this sound unbelievable?

Satan is not through. You will see him use more unbelievers to further
corrupt what has now become a counterfeit to the true Word of God.


Watch the Kittel brothers starting in 1937 at the direction of Hitler
further use the corrupted text to write a theological dictionary and bible
to facilitate the slaughter of Jews.


See which modern Bibles use the corrupted text, and even Hitler's work
to publish their Bibles.


Join With Us On This Journey! It will be an enlightenment.

There are 29 chapters in "Spiritual Deception In The Highest"

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And Now, Jeff Johnson's

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Starting Chapter 3 of
"Spiritual Deception In The Highest"

"MANY PEOPLE ASSUME THAT MODERN VERSIONS ARE SIMPLY WORDING
'UPDATES' TO THE SAME HEBREW AND GREEK TEXTS (i.e. updates
to the Massoretic Text and updates to the Textus Receptus).
This is what I thought. To me, this was a logical assumption.

But, I found out there was a problem with my assumption; it was wrong!" ....Jeff Johnson

Chapter 3, How Could This Happen?
http://www.concernedmembers.com/spiritu ... tion.htm#3
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