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You are in left field concerning Winterfest! I am a youth leader in my church with youth of my own and clearly God is and has used the Winterfest program to help revive and strengthen our youth. Should you not waste your plight to worry others with your words of fear? Couldn't you use your time and energy more wisely by encouraging others who are making a difference in our world today (Winterfest) and its organization? Come on, really, I hope people read what you have to say and go and attend just to find out for thierselves how God uses Winterfest to change lives!!!!Use your energy for what matters the winning of souls! not the cutting down of the brotheren and Gods annointed! Get in the right field! Catch the ball (vision) of what God is doing! Ive only experienced good from Winterfest and so has our teenagers!!!!<font size=2>WINTERFEST CORPORATION AND JEFF WALLING</font>
The above named corporate body has its headquarters in Edmond, Oklahoma and is known as the "Winterfest Group." According to its website report (See http://www.winterfest.org) its officers are Greg Anderson of the Western Hills Church in Nashville, Dudley Chancey, Oklahoma Christian University and Johnny Markum of the College Street Church in Lebanon, Tennessee.
This para-church organization is no part of the church, but they annually feature their "Fallfest" or "Winterfest" programs to draw the youth of the church into their web of deceit. Just a few clicks of your mouse will reveal much about how this group which not only uses sectarians as a part of their program but features "contemporary Christian" performers using instrumental music with songs of praise and worship. You may listen to a block of this type music from the website. Here is a quote concerning one of the "contemporary" groups called, "Solomon's Wish" which will be on the program of Winterfest 2000 in Gatlinburg next month.
"Mike Hurst, Scott Roberts and Kevin "Toby" Tobias wrap their pop sensibilities and intricate vocals around themes such as feeling lack of direction ("Circle in the Sand") and living for Christ ("Easier Said than Done") while creating contemporary praise with songs like "Waterfall" and "God is Alive." Drawing from personal experiences, study times and often pastors sermons, all three are heavily involved in the song writing process for Solomon's Wish. Scott laughs -- "I always pay attention when someone wiser than me is talking -- there's always material!"
"With Scott on percussion as Mike and Toby complement the Solomon's Wish sound with acoustic guitar, the trio is as dynamic in live performance as their songs demand. All three have been involved in some aspect of church ministry, most specifically in youth ministry, where the threesome have felt called to work with teens. But for Solomon's Wish, performing a concert for a youth group is more than just doing their best on stage -- it is spending time with the kids before and after the show."
Jeff Walling will also be featured on the "Winterfest" 2000 at Gatlinburg in February. This brother over the last two decades has done as much as anyone to persuade the youth of the church of Christ that instrumental music in worship is "a matter of opinion...a gray area" (See Bulletin Briefs, May 1998 and Behold the Pattern, Goebel Music, 5114 Montclair, Colleyville, TX 76034, pp. 198-223). In many other ways, Walling continues to seek to change the church of our Lord into a carbon copy of protestant denominationalism. As evidence of this please note the following: In the Woodmont Hills Newsletter of September 29, 1999 (See www.woodmont.org), Rubel Shelly announced that he was going to be a "General Committee Member" on behalf of the June 2000 Billy Graham Crusade in Nashville. About one month later Walling announced (Providence Road Bulletin, Vol. XXVI, No. 21, Oct. 26, 1999) that Shelly would be their guest speaker for the Providence Road church for both services on November 7. Here is clear evidence that these two brothers are working together to restructure the church of Christ. In plain language their work with each other and the support for Billy Graham is such evidence. If not, why not?
Let me entreat in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ all elders to warn (1 Thess. 5:14) those under your care (Acts 20:28) against such programs of compromise as "Winterfest." Men who have been placed as elders over God's flock are required to stop the mouths of those "who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain" (Titus 1:11). And, if you do not think these "Fallfests" and "Winterfests" are a money making operation for those involved, you just ask the young people or their parents what the costs are to see the sideshows to the "religious" segment.
-- Jim E. Waldron
-- Seek The Old Paths (Vol. 11 No. 2, February 2000)
NOTE: The mini-calendar of events for the MYG (Madison Youth Group) shows the Winterfest again is scheduled for February 20-22, 2004. [Donnie Cruz]
According to the tentative schedule, he will speak Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Jeffs view of fellowship is similar to Max Lucados. Immediately, then we know that this program is not concerned that young people be taught the Truth.Source: Bible Infonet
<font size=5>An Open Letter to All Churches of Christ of Southern California</font>
I was shocked and dismayed this last week to attend a Youth Program at one of our churches - on a Sunday morning at the 9:30 a.m. assembly in the auditorium. <font color=indigo>The speaker, in his presentation, presented four tape recordings of a full orchestrated band with all instruments. I could not believe my ears; there were guitars, drums, pianos, horns and string instruments of every nature. If it is OK to play a prerecorded tape, wouldn't it be just the same to have the full band play live?</font>
When I approached the director of the program I was told that this was a class, as communion was not being served until 10:30 a.m., and I was also told that the Greek words for "music" were "not clear. " I was told by an elder of that congregation that their eldership was not aware that instrumental music would be played in the auditorium that morning.
Brethren, I have a concern that well over 250 young people were badly misled that morning. Is it right for youth ministers, guest speakers, elders or others to introduce instrumental music of this magnitude in worship services among churches of Christ? Should the other churches at least have been told that this was going to happen? I have a great concern over what impression was made on the young people attending this Youth Program. I also have a concern if an eldership is not told about something as serious as this.
Are we being stumbling blocks for our young people? Why was this done in a secretive way without the eldership being informed? Why were the visiting congregations of Southern California, who sent their young people to this program, not told that this would be done? This didn't happen by accident. "We understand your concern and we will bring it up in our evaluation meeting afterwards," is skirting the issue.
It was only a few years ago that another congregation at a Youth Program was going to take the Lord's Supper on Saturday night. What will happen next? Is this what change is all about?
Let us prayerfully consider the actions that we take that are going to impact the soul salvation of all our young Christian brothers and sisters. Let us pray that we strive to be true to God's Word. Let us strive to live in harmony and in peace, but not peace at any price. Whatever happened to, "We speak where the Bible speaks and we are silent where the Bible is silent"?
In service to Christ,
D. Hershel Wilson
Well, it does stagger the mind to think that someone, who supposedly follows Him Who directed us to love our neighbor as ourselves, could ironically manifest such unspeakably vicious hatred toward those with whom he disagrees. And that brings up an interesting story.According to the tentative schedule, he will speak Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Jeffs view of fellowship is similar to Max Lucados. Immediately, then we know that this program is not concerned that young people be taught the Truth.
And just what is the truth? I'll tell you what it is, anything the coC says it is! I went to the coC for 25 years. I must tell you, you folks are officialy nuts!! The coC is now, in my opinion, a cult every bit as bad as the JWs. You might as well open a kingdom hall for the coC and march arm in arm off a clift! You of the "only ones going to heaven because we do it right" crowd make me want to puke!
Print this if you can. I see that this sight is so moderated by the "brethern" that dissenting opinion is treated like Pravda would treat it in the old soviet union!
Dont need your prayers, dont want them.Well, there's mature "dissent," and then there's just plain old hateful "vent." Let's see: according to you, the Church of Christ are arrogant Pharisees, a cult, nuts, nauseating, just like Soviets, and infested with pox; we're to be detested because we are very sure of our beliefs, and finally we should fall off a cliff. (I really hope our more discerning readers can differentiate between mature dissenting and hateful venting.) For your future posts, you might want to work in the following overused compliments which change agents most commonly bestow upon us: "judgmental, unkind, unloving, gossips, slanderers, divisive, troublemakers, hypocrites," and the granddaddy of them all, "religious pornographers!" Just want you to be as consistent as possible in your messages.
Now I'm going to repay your obviously mean-spirited, impenitent, resentful attitude with good. I'm going to pray for you, Kent S. You evidently despise the Church of Christ most severely, and it's eating at you like a cancer, whether you will admit it or not. You seem to resent any who are very sure of their salvation, as those in the Church of Christ are. But since you think the Church of Christ is completely wrong, I'm surprised that you would not pray for us. I could be wrong, but from your most recent, vehement messages, I just didn't get the impression that you ever had the desire to pray for us. But I will pray for you, Kent, that your bitter hatred against us will dissipate. A Christ-like mind rejoices not in inquity but in the truth (1 Cor. 13:6 KJV).