Sad looking 4x4 in Washington state.

Sad looking 4x4 in Washington state.

Joined: October 13th, 2014, 1:31 am

June 8th, 2017, 3:13 pm #1


https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/6167214877.html

Seller says it's a factory set-up.



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Joined: October 15th, 2014, 1:19 am

June 8th, 2017, 5:20 pm #2

Yes, is sad looking, but just getting that 4X4 critical stuff for only $1K would be worth it is the Chassis and drive-line parts are still all there and in good enough shape to make it a reasonable restoration. All the beat up body parts are easy enough to get if you know where as we know.

I think this is a job and project for Bob Cruse! He needs a 4X4 too, right?
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Joined: October 13th, 2014, 1:31 am

June 8th, 2017, 5:57 pm #3

Already dropped him a note....
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Joined: May 15th, 2006, 9:58 pm

June 8th, 2017, 9:06 pm #4

Those who want a 4X4 are welcome to it. I won't be bidding against them.

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Joined: January 17th, 2015, 1:50 am

June 9th, 2017, 1:05 am #5

https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/6167214877.html

Seller says it's a factory set-up.


Take care

George o
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Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:43 pm

June 9th, 2017, 3:57 pm #6

Yes, is sad looking, but just getting that 4X4 critical stuff for only $1K would be worth it is the Chassis and drive-line parts are still all there and in good enough shape to make it a reasonable restoration. All the beat up body parts are easy enough to get if you know where as we know.

I think this is a job and project for Bob Cruse! He needs a 4X4 too, right?
Vin plate,entire step is gone. Seriel number starts with a D from the title so it might be the real deal. Seller says he has known the truck for many years. If I could get it back to the southeast reasonably I would have already bought it.
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Joined: October 15th, 2014, 1:19 am

June 9th, 2017, 4:23 pm #7

It probably fell off going down the road for a beer run at some point and gone forever. But that would be very advantageous to have of course. At least forth a quick look to see if by chance it might still just be laying on the ground there. I'm guessing that truck sat in some trees or weeds for a long time before it was drug out again. You never know, it might still just be laying on the ground there where it was.
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Joined: December 10th, 2014, 5:11 am

June 9th, 2017, 5:22 pm #8

According to the current owner , as mentioned above , a good portion of the step area is gone , as is the data plate . The only serial number is what is on the title , which is : D65344362 . This number does not match anything in the parts manual . According to the Studebaker parts manual serial numbers for '57/'58 V-8 1/2 tons [2wd & 4wd] started with E7 - 7,601 . Engine numbers for the same vehicles started with 3 [or 5] E - 2,701 . The 'model' numbers for 4 X 4's had a 'D' following the '7' . It would be interesting to find out where the DMV came up with this number . I didn't ask him directly , but I would assume that the data plate was missing when the current owner bought the truck . Bob Cruse
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Joined: October 15th, 2014, 1:19 am

June 9th, 2017, 5:47 pm #9

And what configurations they had? Where they were original sold? If so, maybe it can figured out which one it is by process of elimination. If not now, maybe in the future when more info becomes available somehow.

But short of that. Might be just a good 4X4 parts truck for someone.
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Joined: October 12th, 2014, 8:14 pm

June 9th, 2017, 8:23 pm #10

According to the current owner , as mentioned above , a good portion of the step area is gone , as is the data plate . The only serial number is what is on the title , which is : D65344362 . This number does not match anything in the parts manual . According to the Studebaker parts manual serial numbers for '57/'58 V-8 1/2 tons [2wd & 4wd] started with E7 - 7,601 . Engine numbers for the same vehicles started with 3 [or 5] E - 2,701 . The 'model' numbers for 4 X 4's had a 'D' following the '7' . It would be interesting to find out where the DMV came up with this number . I didn't ask him directly , but I would assume that the data plate was missing when the current owner bought the truck . Bob Cruse
That's probably a state-issued VIN to replace a lost serial plate, lost title, or both. Most states have a procedure to issue a new serial number and plate to vehicles that no longer have their original identity.
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Joined: December 10th, 2014, 5:11 am

June 9th, 2017, 9:11 pm #11

Skip is probably correct , that is more than likely a state DMV generated vehicle serial number . Bob Cruse
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Joined: October 29th, 2014, 2:42 am

June 10th, 2017, 3:44 am #12

Take care

George o
looking at the left front wheel it has a standard lock out hub that Studebaker used. On the right front wheel though there is no lock out, only the standard cap on the end of the axle where the lock out would be.
Sure wish I were closer.
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Joined: October 29th, 2014, 1:40 am

June 11th, 2017, 4:56 pm #13

I emailed the owner about this truck it's been sold already to another member in the club dunno who tho. He's going to get me more info to figure out if we can add it to the registry.
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Joined: October 29th, 2014, 1:40 am

June 11th, 2017, 7:34 pm #14

that last one was from me.
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Joined: June 12th, 2017, 7:11 pm

June 12th, 2017, 7:40 pm #15

Visited this truck Saturday it's the real deal fact that it's a 58 the dash and seat are grey and the crazy vin I think it's a Navy truck this truck was a Beach Tow Truck for years some beaches in Washington are state highways
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Joined: October 15th, 2014, 1:19 am

June 13th, 2017, 2:08 am #16

All the way across the country? And you didn't buy it, or did?
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Joined: July 6th, 2016, 11:23 pm

June 13th, 2017, 1:05 pm #17

Take care

George o
I spoke to the seller ( Leroy) at length on Friday in Raymond Wa. The serial plate is missing and the Wa title doesn't have it (s/n) listed, just the state issued title number. The ground where the truck was sitting for the last several years was graded with a Cat, so if it fell off it is long gone by now.

But I was able have him read the engine number and sure enough, it matches a 4x4 from the production list. So I am adding it to the register this morning. Still would like to find out the name of the new owner and his state of residence to make the entry complete! I will call Leroy back and try to get the buyer's info later today.
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Joined: December 10th, 2014, 5:11 am

June 13th, 2017, 3:03 pm #18

I guess it's time to get off my duff and acknowledge the fact that I am the new owner of the '58 Studebaker 4 X 4 . As anyone who has viewed the pictures will realize , non of the sheet metal is salvageable . However, I do have a '57 E7 with good sheet metal that will probably become the recipient of the 4 X 4 running gear . Concerning the 4 X 4 registry , I live in the Seattle area . Bob Cruse.............
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Joined: June 12th, 2017, 7:11 pm

June 13th, 2017, 5:37 pm #19

All the way across the country? And you didn't buy it, or did?
Sorry,this is Ted Valbert in Washington state I drove about 90 miles each way to look at the truck I passed it was a steal it did sell Saturday I saw the truck about 40 years ago on the beach $10 says all the spiders are welded I may have a 70s Picture of this truck
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Joined: October 22nd, 2014, 6:43 pm

June 13th, 2017, 5:45 pm #20

I guess it's time to get off my duff and acknowledge the fact that I am the new owner of the '58 Studebaker 4 X 4 . As anyone who has viewed the pictures will realize , non of the sheet metal is salvageable . However, I do have a '57 E7 with good sheet metal that will probably become the recipient of the 4 X 4 running gear . Concerning the 4 X 4 registry , I live in the Seattle area . Bob Cruse.............
Congrats. I fought hard with myself over this one but reality won out. Steve
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Joined: July 6th, 2016, 11:23 pm

June 13th, 2017, 7:08 pm #21

I guess it's time to get off my duff and acknowledge the fact that I am the new owner of the '58 Studebaker 4 X 4 . As anyone who has viewed the pictures will realize , non of the sheet metal is salvageable . However, I do have a '57 E7 with good sheet metal that will probably become the recipient of the 4 X 4 running gear . Concerning the 4 X 4 registry , I live in the Seattle area . Bob Cruse.............
Congrats Bob! Added you as new owner to the register this afternoon. Drop me a message at stude1954@gmail.com if you would like a copy -- happy to send one your way.
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Joined: July 6th, 2016, 11:23 pm

June 13th, 2017, 7:15 pm #22

Sorry,this is Ted Valbert in Washington state I drove about 90 miles each way to look at the truck I passed it was a steal it did sell Saturday I saw the truck about 40 years ago on the beach $10 says all the spiders are welded I may have a 70s Picture of this truck
Small world ...... your 54 Commander is alive and kickin out in the garage. Good to hear you are still out there !!! Drop me an email some time --- stude1954@gmail.com

Andy
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Joined: October 15th, 2014, 1:19 am

June 13th, 2017, 11:09 pm #23

I guess it's time to get off my duff and acknowledge the fact that I am the new owner of the '58 Studebaker 4 X 4 . As anyone who has viewed the pictures will realize , non of the sheet metal is salvageable . However, I do have a '57 E7 with good sheet metal that will probably become the recipient of the 4 X 4 running gear . Concerning the 4 X 4 registry , I live in the Seattle area . Bob Cruse.............
I knew this truck had your name written on it. Hopefully the good parts are worth the effort and could be a nice basis for a project.
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Joined: October 12th, 2014, 12:09 am

June 14th, 2017, 2:36 pm #24

I guess it's time to get off my duff and acknowledge the fact that I am the new owner of the '58 Studebaker 4 X 4 . As anyone who has viewed the pictures will realize , non of the sheet metal is salvageable . However, I do have a '57 E7 with good sheet metal that will probably become the recipient of the 4 X 4 running gear . Concerning the 4 X 4 registry , I live in the Seattle area . Bob Cruse.............
Bob you just couldn't let Lee get one up on you !
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Joined: December 10th, 2014, 5:11 am

June 15th, 2017, 3:13 pm #25

Mike : I knew that the only way I was going to get into the Studebaker 4 X 4 fraternity was to find one close to home at a bargain basement price . Keith : I am trying hard to keep up with Lee , but he's not making it easy , as he has a complete vehicle . Bob Cruse........
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Joined: October 15th, 2014, 1:19 am

June 16th, 2017, 6:33 am #26

Glad it is going to a good home. I know it will be safe and sound, won't go to the crusher or get junked out. But hopefully you got some nice parts to work with and can make a nice project out of it.

Maybe without the VIN, it would be a good base to make the Champ 4X4 that Studebaker should have made, lol! If I was only slightly more crazy than I already am, I might have been tempted by that idea myself. But I think domestic disaster would have been the most likely result of that project. On the other hand, a P1 long bed 4X4 Champ with an R2/5spd O/D in it would at least be pretty interesting, hmmm.......
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Joined: December 10th, 2014, 5:11 am

June 17th, 2017, 4:57 am #27

I am hoping that at least the transfer case and the front axle are serviceable . It would be nice if all the mounting hardware , drive shafts and controls were also good . If the 289" and 4 speed are at least rebuildable , that would be almost too much to expect . I like your idea of a Champ 4 X 4 with R2/5spd over . The Champ that never was - but should have been ! By the way , I have a 289" 4V / 5spd over , earmarked for your 2R-15 . I have also rounded up seven 19.5" full dished tubeless wheels with serviceable 8.00 X 19.5 tires for it . I've also had some of the sheet metal powdercoated , but the R-15 is a back burner project right now . The front burner project is still my '56 E-7 with a 259"/5spd over . Bob Cruse..........
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Joined: December 10th, 2014, 5:11 am

June 17th, 2017, 5:32 am #28

The above message was supposed to be directed to Mike Webb . sorry Mike . Bob Cruse........
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