VysePresident
Mr. Danya
Joined: June 7th, 2012, 10:55 pm

January 28th, 2015, 10:15 pm #16

VysePresident wrote:-Also, I haven't even played scum, and my style has always been to put all my cards face up on the table, which is isn't exactly a great strategy for scum, and drawing the limelight with my reads makes that doubly true. Quit with the whole paranoia routine guys.
VysePresident(Neighborhood) wrote:I'm just subtly manipulating y'all for my own evil purposes. Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.
I think one of my favorite things this game was just how much of a hypocrite I got to be.

That, and I Endgamed Murder & Naft, for all intents and purposes. How often does that happen?

Anyway, if anyone's interested I'll run over some of my thoughts on the game tonight, and stuff I did that might not be clear from looking at the scum thread.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

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Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
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Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
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VysePresident
Mr. Danya
Joined: June 7th, 2012, 10:55 pm

January 28th, 2015, 10:20 pm #17

Oh, and Espi, you're not terrible. Most people have trouble figuring out how to sort through a game where everyone sounds reasonable. The trick is learning to read between the lines for strategy and such, and nobody really gave you a chance for that.

For what it's worth, I deliberately broke RVS on you because I knew this Town likes to equate Newbish play with Scumminess, and I figured they'd be looking at you even if I defended you. You were kind of set up here.

Also, you kinda got back at me by being the only freaking Vanilla Townie in the entire game. Figures we had to quicklynch you, of all people.

(For the record, breaking RVS on Espi is not a scumtell. I just had a plan behind stuff I'd typically do as Town.)
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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VoltTurtle
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Joined: August 14th, 2012, 12:10 am

January 28th, 2015, 10:23 pm #18

As someone who was reading this, I was thinking that Toben and Boogie were scum at the end and I thought that Goose and Vyse were town.

In conclusion: Vyse you magnificent bastard.
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VysePresident
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Joined: June 7th, 2012, 10:55 pm

January 28th, 2015, 10:24 pm #19

Grim Wolf wrote:I was actually pretty confident in a boogie/Naft mafia, so well-done Vyse.
Thank you kindly, sir.

Remember that PM I sent you on V4P2, and how all that stuff applied to playing Scum as well? That's basically how I played this game. I was very careful no to hit any scumtells until near the end, at which point everyone's reads were already set, and I could afford to be a little sloppy. (Not that I was deliberately sloppy, but I had enough Town cred to slip by.)

Trust me, guys. Scum doesn't need to be blatant.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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VysePresident
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January 28th, 2015, 10:24 pm #20

Heh, thanks.

And thanks for Neighborizing me Slam & RC. I couldn't have done this without you.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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VysePresident
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January 28th, 2015, 10:24 pm #21

Heh, thanks.

And thanks for Neighborizing me Slam & RC. I couldn't have done this without you.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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VysePresident
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January 28th, 2015, 10:24 pm #22

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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NotAFlyingToy
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January 28th, 2015, 11:50 pm #23

Yeah, shit was totally crazy.
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General Goose
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January 29th, 2015, 12:55 am #24

Like congrats Vyse. You played the whole town against each other. Not a bad move.
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VysePresident
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January 30th, 2015, 8:55 am #25

So, looking back, I want to thank Doc for the sheer time, energy, and dedication he put into making the game run as smoothly and efficiently as it did. The flavor was always a blast to read, Doc was unbelievably prompt, and the game itself was a really clever idea. I've always preferred it when Town & Scum are engaging in a battle of wits over a game being completely defined by PRs.

From a critical viewpoint, I'd recommend against targeting a Lyncher at someone who can easily be confirmed as Town. If RC played his cards right, he would have been untouchable as early as Day #1, with the ability to confirm himself to an unlimited number of Townies. Scum might have benefited from a little more power, though I'm obviously not in a position to complain. :p

From a strategic viewpoint, I think it basically all came down to the Neighborhood. That basically allowed us to almost completely control Town PRs, and use them to make up for our own deficits in that regard. It nearly came back to bite us hard, because Murder was making really smart use of the PRs as well, and would likely have worked with Goose to block both myself and Boogie the night after Badb was modkilled.

I was gearing up for a major battle with Murder so as to convince Goose to RB him, as sort of our last chance at recovery. Thankfully that Insane Tracker result rendered it moot, and Boogie and I ended up being the only two consistent Townreads in Endgame.

Overall, it was an awesome and exciting game, and I'd definitely sign up for anything Doc chooses to do in the future.

Also, thanks to Percy & DMboogie for being such great partners. Boogie did a good job of getting Townread before he started hanging back, and played backup support really well. I don't think anybody in the game would have connected Boogie & myself based on interactions. By the time I stopped pretending to seriously scumread him, except to push somebody else's case, he was already Town in most people's eyes.

Percy was darn good at the beginning and he really came back strong just before he died. I was pretty sad that Murder forced me to bus him at that point. Like I said in the Scum thread, if I'm considering this my revenge for PR Mafia, I suppose it's fair. Both he and I are one Percy down apiece.

I guess the short of it is thanks to everyone who played, and to everyone who watched. (Except Imehal. I wanted her to play, dangit. Penguin, too.)

I had a great time, and I hope you all did too.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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VysePresident
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January 30th, 2015, 8:58 am #26

Also, for the sake of tradition.



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Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)
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