decoy73
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June 23rd, 2017, 2:26 am #16

The night actions

Night 1
Town
  • MK Kilmarnock - Commute
  • RC - Protect Deamon
  • Randomness - Investigate to Zetsu
  • Zetsu - Investigate MK Kilmarnock (nullified due to commute), Frogue (Town)
  • Grim Wolf - Block Frogue (No effect - no action to block)
Mafia
  • VoltTurtle - Eliminate Deamon (nullified due to RC’s protection)
  • Inge - Block MK Kilmarnock (nullified due to commute)
Other
  • Empress Plush - Voluntarily eliminated, no replacement
  • VysePresident - Voluntarily eliminated, no replacement (tentative move - VoltTurtle)
Night 2
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Prim
  • RC - Protect Toxie
  • Zetsu - Eliminate Kermit
  • Grim Wolf - Block MK Kilmarnock (No effect - no action to block)
Mafia
  • VoltTurtle - Eliminate RC
  • Inge - Block Grim Wolf (No effect - Grim’s role block was on no action)
Night 3
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Inge
  • Zetsu - Save Yugi
  • Randomness - Kill to Flare
  • Flare - Eliminate Grim Wolf
  • Grim Wolf - Block VoltTurtle
Mafia
  • VoltTurtle - Eliminate Zetsu (Blocked by Grim Wolf)
  • Inge - Block Yugikun
Night 4
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Inge
  • Zetsu - Block Deamon (No effect - no action to block)
Mafia
  • Inge - Eliminate Toxie
  • Inge - Block Yugikun (Successful)
Night 5
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Deamon
  • Zetsu - Save Yugikun
Mafia
  • Brackie - Eliminate Zetsu
Just to note, the universal backup would have either taken the place of the cop or the vig. I flipped a coin, and Yugi got to be vig.
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Female #39:Lana Torres JURY MEMBER #6
Female #12: Cassandra Black JURY MEMBER #5
Male #29: Matt Masters JURY MEMBER #4
Female #32: Kat Tolstoff JURY MEMBER #3
Male #41: Virgil Jefferson-Davis JURY MEMBER #2
Male #32: Rutherford ?R.J.? Roger JURY MEMBER #1

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Male #24: Francis St. Ledger #9 ELIMINATED

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Female #18: Claire Monaghan #7 ELIMINATED

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Kermit
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June 23rd, 2017, 2:37 am #17

wrote:Zetsu - Eliminate Kermit
wait what?
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Brackie
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June 23rd, 2017, 2:51 am #18

I have a lot of sleep-addled and barely coherent thoughts to say about how this game went down, mostly to do with how the game was played rather than the actual setup (although every scum safeclaim being a Townie was kind of a big giveaway but that's a minor thing so I digress).

Look, I get being excited to play Mafia and nail scum, I really do. But there's enthusiastic and then there's STRANGLING THE GAME TO DEATH WITH YOUR HUNDREDS OF POSTS. This isn't just a personal bugbear, I feel it's something that's actively harming the games. I touched on this briefly back in Day 2 but if your first day has several thousand posts, it effectively ices out half the lurkers from the discussion because they have no time to read and catch up (as was what happened to me even though I was scum and not really reading anyway, but my point still remains) and hands complete control of the game to a small handful of people, which in a game of 20+ people is a very bad move. What happens when they're all town and Mafia kills them all? Not only do the town become reliant on them to provide discussion and move the game along when it really should be /everybody/, the lurkers aren't given room to breathe in the first 2-3 days because every time someone chimes in with a post they're immediately read because they have only 10% of the posts that you do. This is an actively discouraging move to make in a game where it's really easy to get knocked off for misdemeanors. I know in the current meta it's essential to analyze everything and provide reads on command for every single post but it needs to happen in a way that doesn't lend itself to the game being spearheaded by a select few people. Because once those people are gone, poof, the game is dead, as is what happened in this game.

Town was extremely lucky that the ones posting the several hundred posts were actually town, but what if scum was among them? What if after zetsu died they then took control of the game? Or better yet, what about what actually happened this game and the last remaining person who posted several hundred times on the first day dies and the game falls into a coma? It's not just a town safety thing, it's a game health thing. What would have happened if frogue didn't take the reigns on the final day? I probably could have slipped a few days further in even though I'm being actively scummy.

I'm not saying don't post at all or don't provide reads. I'm just saying learn brevity or learn to get all your points across in one post, and then let other people contribute to the discussion rather than having it amongst the 2-3 people who are online all the time. Mafia is a democracy, not an oligarchy.

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That being said, everything else I thought was pretty good! Apart from the safeclaim mishap I thought the flavour was pretty good and it was pretty well-balanced considering the size of the game and the mafia itself.

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MurderWeasel
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June 23rd, 2017, 2:52 am #19

@Maddie: I haven't really figured balance yet--I just like to start stuff off with positive notes and saw some solutions to common issues that I liked! I'll give full setup thoughts later but I do think this skewed notably town. That said, I think your role PM (if it's as quoted) actually explicitly says your kills are blockable, making "Hitman" just a term for designated kill role (which is something I use too). That actually weakens scum compared to a floating kill in terms of balance, as an overall observation.
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June 23rd, 2017, 2:57 am #20

MurderWeasel wrote:@Maddie: I haven't really figured balance yet--I just like to start stuff off with positive notes and saw some solutions to common issues that I liked! I'll give full setup thoughts later but I do think this skewed notably town. That said, I think your role PM (if it's as quoted) actually explicitly says your kills are blockable, making "Hitman" just a term for designated kill role (which is something I use too). That actually weakens scum compared to a floating kill in terms of balance, as an overall observation.
WHICH MAKES IT EVEN WORSE
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19:26 Kilmarnock: Aside from Piggsy's shadowy schlong.

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22:45 Courtney Hey Medic
22:45 SpiralAgnew IN FRONT OF MK
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22:46 Outfoxd FUCK YOUR DREAMS
22:46 Outfoxd OoO
22:47 TurtleTyrant we are punching him in the dick?
22:47 Courtney That'll be the most attention his dick has gotten...ever.

22:47 Guest13519 He'd probably like getting punched in the dick though.
22:47 Courtney Only if by androgynous looking girls.
22:48 Guest13519 Who look and act about 12?
22:48 Courtney I really don't know.
22:48 Courtney Ask him.
22:48 Courtney I mean he's right here.
22:49 SpiralAgnew Sorry, I couldn't hear you
22:49 Outfoxd I gotta go to bed
22:49 SpiralAgnew I was too busy riding that Nintendo high

22:26 Mumu: robots are sexy
22:26 Mumu: like that bitch from The Jetsons
22:27 TurtleTyrant: do you find this robot sexy?
22:27 Slayer: :|
22:27 TurtleTyrant: [Image of Bender]
22:27 Lancer: Who wouldn't?
22:27 Kilmarnock: If anything, Bender's sexier than Rosie.

21:42 Flarez: MurderWeasel - You can tell what kind of site we're on because we get confused on which particular infirmary massacre we're discussing.
21:42 MurderWeasel: Welcome to chat and SOTF!

21:21 Espi: I want to have at least one non-white person perversion.

20:44 Raft: Um.
20:44 Raft: Can't tonight Ricky. I'm promised to another.
20:46 Kilmarnock: YOUR ANUS IS MINE

22:37 Mimi: SOMETIMES I DO PENIS

22:00 Sansa: Vagina. <3 OTP till the end of time.

18:30 Outfoxd: that would be the slow inexorable path of evolution mocking you

20:00 Naft: Jokes on you
20:00 Naft: Turtle replaced my mind with a turtle on a hamster wheel

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13:00 Zarina: LIKE HORRIFIC HETEROSEXUAL H-GAMES

23:33 Zarina: I tried to buy condoms discreetly once
23:33 Zarina: I ran into my mom at the register

19:35 Christian: I JUST LIKE SHAGGING HANDLERS, KAY?

14:56 Slam: but then I wonder where's the romance without a schlong
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June 23rd, 2017, 2:58 am #21

Just want to apologize again for replacing out. I had a lot of fun with the game, and I'm amused at how stuck I got on Murder early in the game. I've chatted a bit about my reads with a few others and think I did okay outside of Murder, but come endgame, I was really confused. Points to Brackie for playing an extremely Townie game as Scum.

@Turtle - For what it's worth, I think you did pretty well despite being given a crappy hand. You slightly overthought stuff a couple of times, but honestly? You played me so hard for most of Day #1.

Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:02 am #22

This game was not fun. It was heavily skewed Town and was pretty demoralising, specially once the claims came out.

Secondly, the game was weirdly personal for the first half and made it extremely uncomfortable to play.
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:04 am #23

VysePresident wrote:@Turtle - For what it's worth, I think you did pretty well despite being given a crappy hand. You slightly overthought stuff a couple of times, but honestly? You played me so hard for most of Day #1.
I had a solid plan to cast suspicion on the actual members of town (my read list was the start of that) but then Penelope got rolled and I was sad inside and had to work on that and not mafia so... yeah.
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19:26 Monad: Isn't that bad like, quality? Or isn't as bad as they say in terms of nastiness?
19:26 Kilmarnock: Aside from Piggsy's shadowy schlong.

22:45 SpiralAgnew I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW AWESOME IT IS TO WORK AT NINTENDO
22:45 Medic SPIRAL
22:45 Courtney Hey Medic
22:45 SpiralAgnew IN FRONT OF MK
22:46 Outfoxd ..Wait, do we punch Spiral in the dick now?
22:46 Outfoxd FUCK YOUR DREAMS
22:46 Outfoxd OoO
22:47 TurtleTyrant we are punching him in the dick?
22:47 Courtney That'll be the most attention his dick has gotten...ever.

22:47 Guest13519 He'd probably like getting punched in the dick though.
22:47 Courtney Only if by androgynous looking girls.
22:48 Guest13519 Who look and act about 12?
22:48 Courtney I really don't know.
22:48 Courtney Ask him.
22:48 Courtney I mean he's right here.
22:49 SpiralAgnew Sorry, I couldn't hear you
22:49 Outfoxd I gotta go to bed
22:49 SpiralAgnew I was too busy riding that Nintendo high

22:26 Mumu: robots are sexy
22:26 Mumu: like that bitch from The Jetsons
22:27 TurtleTyrant: do you find this robot sexy?
22:27 Slayer: :|
22:27 TurtleTyrant: [Image of Bender]
22:27 Lancer: Who wouldn't?
22:27 Kilmarnock: If anything, Bender's sexier than Rosie.

21:42 Flarez: MurderWeasel - You can tell what kind of site we're on because we get confused on which particular infirmary massacre we're discussing.
21:42 MurderWeasel: Welcome to chat and SOTF!

21:21 Espi: I want to have at least one non-white person perversion.

20:44 Raft: Um.
20:44 Raft: Can't tonight Ricky. I'm promised to another.
20:46 Kilmarnock: YOUR ANUS IS MINE

22:37 Mimi: SOMETIMES I DO PENIS

22:00 Sansa: Vagina. <3 OTP till the end of time.

18:30 Outfoxd: that would be the slow inexorable path of evolution mocking you

20:00 Naft: Jokes on you
20:00 Naft: Turtle replaced my mind with a turtle on a hamster wheel

13:00 Zarina: I DON'T ONLY PLAY HORRIFIC YAOI H-GAMES RACHEL
13:00 Zarina: SOMETIMES I PLAY OTHER THINGS
13:00 Zarina: LIKE HORRIFIC HETEROSEXUAL H-GAMES

23:33 Zarina: I tried to buy condoms discreetly once
23:33 Zarina: I ran into my mom at the register

19:35 Christian: I JUST LIKE SHAGGING HANDLERS, KAY?

14:56 Slam: but then I wonder where's the romance without a schlong
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:05 am #24

wrote:STRANGLING THE GAME TO DEATH WITH YOUR HUNDREDS OF POSTS.]
"Kermit you are the guy in the horror movie that finds a book bound in human skin and decides to read out loud what is inside for fun" - some mean lady named Ruggahissy
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:09 am #25

"Kermit you are the guy in the horror movie that finds a book bound in human skin and decides to read out loud what is inside for fun" - some mean lady named Ruggahissy
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v2 art ;~;
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Flare
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:27 am #26

I kind of fell off this game at a certain point since I was doing the Mafia Championship for part of it, so that's my bad. Still, I do agree that there was a big gap in activity levels between players and that's just bad in general.

Also, I'll bring it up again like I did in the game thread; I personally hate hate hate games that allow role PM quoting. The generally agreed upon idea behind Mafia is for the scum to use deceptive reasoning and actions to try and fool the town, while the the town uses their deduction skills and reading of past situations and actions to decipher who's lying. Letting people quote their roles pretty much throws this out the window, as you can see by how this game became a discussion of "Would decoy word it THAT way?" and how accurate our hits on scum were after we all just mass-claimed and blew the game open.

IDK, maybe some people like playing Mafia that way. I sure don't.
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:39 am #27

Turtle wrote:
VysePresident wrote:@Turtle - For what it's worth, I think you did pretty well despite being given a crappy hand. You slightly overthought stuff a couple of times, but honestly? You played me so hard for most of Day #1.
I had a solid plan to cast suspicion on the actual members of town (my read list was the start of that) but then Penelope got rolled and I was sad inside and had to work on that and not mafia so... yeah.
Yeah, I was sorry to see you go, but it's not like I could blame you. Mafia is just a game when it comes down to it.

Hope you take care of yourself.
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:39 am #28

Super unfun game but I place only 50% of the blame on Decoy.
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:40 am #29

Flare wrote:I kind of fell off this game at a certain point since I was doing the Mafia Championship for part of it, so that's my bad. Still, I do agree that there was a big gap in activity levels between players and that's just bad in general.

Also, I'll bring it up again like I did in the game thread; I personally hate hate hate games that allow role PM quoting. The generally agreed upon idea behind Mafia is for the scum to use deceptive reasoning and actions to try and fool the town, while the the town uses their deduction skills and reading of past situations and actions to decipher who's lying. Letting people quote their roles pretty much throws this out the window, as you can see by how this game became a discussion of "Would decoy word it THAT way?" and how accurate our hits on scum were after we all just mass-claimed and blew the game open.

IDK, maybe some people like playing Mafia that way. I sure don't.
Also yep. As soon as I saw this was allowed I was determined to break the game over my knee and demonstrate WHY THE FUCK THIS IS NOT ALLOWED.
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14:36 MimiI THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE FRIENDS > 14:36MimiI THOUGHT YOU REALLY LICKED HER
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June 23rd, 2017, 3:49 am #30

Honestly if someone tries to make it legal in a future game we should agree as a board to just cut out all the fluff and start the game off with a massclaim.
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