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September 1st, 2014, 1:57 pm #211

It's like Christmas and my birthday on the same day. Which is close enough IRL but still. Nicely done. nice. ly. done.
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SOTF: The Program
M07 - Michael Maxwell | Location: The Officers' Quarters - Let's Make Life A Living Hell | Status: DECEASED | Died for nothing | History: 1, 2, 3, 4
F13 - Jennifer Steinman | Location The Watchtower - The Opening Faceoff | Status: DECEASED | Died to make up for past sins | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Program V2
M01- Kyle Williams | Location: ENDGAME The Town - Semper Fi | Status: DECEASED | Died for no reason | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

SOTF-TV
W01 - Timothy Walker | Location: The Ski Resort - Siberian Breaks | Status: DECEASED | Died and lost, aces low | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

TV V2
AE2: Anastasia Arcadia | Location:The Bull Craps Casino - Production Costs | Status: DECEASED? | Died, having pissed off a genuine god | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

Virtua-SOTF
F03 - Tania Chell | Location: The Ghost Town/The Streets - Anyone out there? | Status: DECEASED| Died lost in thought | History: 1, 2, 3, 4
F13 - Maria Hall| Location: The Mines - Exhausted | Status: DECEASED | Died void of all | History: 1, 2

Second Chances
G13 - Jennifer Steinman | Location: The Resort Hotel - One Bath, Two Bath, Red Bath, Bloodbath | Status: DECEASED | Died unrepentant | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 5, 6
B11 - Timothy Walker | Location: The Helipad - Thin Line Between Heaven and Here | Status: DECEASED | Died and took hope with him | History: 1, 2

Second Chances V2
B13 - Michael Maxwell | Location: The Lake - Two is Better Than One | Status: DECEASED | Died for a stupid mistake | History: 1, 2
G21 - Tania Chell | Location: The Cliffs - Instructions Unclear | Status: DECEASED | Died having accomplished nothing | History: 1, 2, 3, 4
There was once a dumb psuedo-news line here. Now there's this pretentious nonsense. YOU1 DID THIS, YOU1 KNOW WHO YOU1 ARE!

1. Yeah you, you nefarious ne'er-do-well you.
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September 5th, 2014, 1:17 pm #212

AND YOU GET A DEATH. AND *YOU* GET A DEATH.
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October 24th, 2014, 7:19 pm #213

Asa Rosen is now the proud owner of my favourite death post thus far in TV2.
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Brandon Baxter is holding it all together. -- Keep it secret, keep it safe.
Kasumi White is writing her story. -- She could do this.
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BB3: Matthew Weiss called a play and saw it fail. -- I'll explain the plan when we're all here.
CS3: Dougie Sharpe lost her and faded away. -- Okay.
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January 20th, 2015, 4:04 pm #214

Wait.

When did Jewel and Sarah become the Thelma and Louise of TV2?

And when did Corin and Anarchy become the Abbott and Costello of TV2?

I have no idea what's going on.

I think I like it though.
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January 21st, 2015, 2:04 pm #215

Ciel wrote:Wait.

When did Jewel and Sarah become the Thelma and Louise of TV2?

And when did Corin and Anarchy become the Abbott and Costello of TV2?

I have no idea what's going on.

I think I like it though.
Can't wait for the first ever "Who's On First"-themed murder.
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February 20th, 2015, 3:50 pm #216

I WAS DRAFTING A POST AND FORGOT I WASN'T IN THE ACTUAL THREAD IGNORE THIS
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February 20th, 2015, 4:19 pm #217

Hey what happens in discussion stays in discussion.

To be discussed. If it happens in planning though, well that ain't secure.

Wait, whoops. Ignoring failed. Quick! Ignore the fact I didn't ignore it!
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SOTF: The Program
M07 - Michael Maxwell | Location: The Officers' Quarters - Let's Make Life A Living Hell | Status: DECEASED | Died for nothing | History: 1, 2, 3, 4
F13 - Jennifer Steinman | Location The Watchtower - The Opening Faceoff | Status: DECEASED | Died to make up for past sins | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Program V2
M01- Kyle Williams | Location: ENDGAME The Town - Semper Fi | Status: DECEASED | Died for no reason | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

SOTF-TV
W01 - Timothy Walker | Location: The Ski Resort - Siberian Breaks | Status: DECEASED | Died and lost, aces low | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

TV V2
AE2: Anastasia Arcadia | Location:The Bull Craps Casino - Production Costs | Status: DECEASED? | Died, having pissed off a genuine god | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

Virtua-SOTF
F03 - Tania Chell | Location: The Ghost Town/The Streets - Anyone out there? | Status: DECEASED| Died lost in thought | History: 1, 2, 3, 4
F13 - Maria Hall| Location: The Mines - Exhausted | Status: DECEASED | Died void of all | History: 1, 2

Second Chances
G13 - Jennifer Steinman | Location: The Resort Hotel - One Bath, Two Bath, Red Bath, Bloodbath | Status: DECEASED | Died unrepentant | History: 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 5, 6
B11 - Timothy Walker | Location: The Helipad - Thin Line Between Heaven and Here | Status: DECEASED | Died and took hope with him | History: 1, 2

Second Chances V2
B13 - Michael Maxwell | Location: The Lake - Two is Better Than One | Status: DECEASED | Died for a stupid mistake | History: 1, 2
G21 - Tania Chell | Location: The Cliffs - Instructions Unclear | Status: DECEASED | Died having accomplished nothing | History: 1, 2, 3, 4
There was once a dumb psuedo-news line here. Now there's this pretentious nonsense. YOU1 DID THIS, YOU1 KNOW WHO YOU1 ARE!

1. Yeah you, you nefarious ne'er-do-well you.
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February 20th, 2015, 5:05 pm #218

So, like, there are just 6 Davison people alive. I wonder how the principal reacts.

Random question incoming.

What's your favourite TV2 location?
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February 20th, 2015, 8:26 pm #219

RCee wrote:So, like, there are just 6 Davison people alive. I wonder how the principal reacts.

Random question incoming.

What's your favourite TV2 location?
It's interesting how that goes--TV1 also saw one school whittled away a lot faster than the other. I wonder what makes the game go that way; it could be random chance,but I get the feeling there might be something else at play.

As to favorite location, there are a few I like a lot. The boardwalk stands out as pretty cool and full of interesting options in particular, though.
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."
[+] Spoiler
The Program V1:
M06: Karl Chalmers - American Flag - The Mess Hall - DECEASED
F09: Nichole "Nikki" Campbell - 6 Pack of Beer (0/6) - Open Ground - DECEASED

The Program V2:
M08: Alexander Bonham - Steel Folding Chair - The Pine Stands - DECEASED
F20: Robin Pounds - Stress Ball - Mountain Track - DECEASED

SOTF-TV V1:
PRP3: Karen Ruiz - Glock 17 (0/17 +1 bullet), WASP Knife, Swordcane - Over and out - ELIMINATED - "I don't find pointless death funny."
W02: Renée Carlson - Straight Razor - The Resort Beach - DECEASED

SOTF-TV V2:
SS4: Austin White - Gold Retractable Spyglass - The World Oyster - DECEASED

Second Chances V1:
G16: Nicole Husher (thanks to TBH!) - Colt Single Action Army - The Makeshift Hospital - DECEASED

Second Chances V2:
B12: Richard Ormsby - x4 Flashbang Grenades - The Ravine - DECEASED
B22: William Lohman - Winchester Model 1897 - The Ravine - DECEASED

BR AU:
B15: Shuya Nanahara - No Weapon - The School Building - DECEASED
B20: Kyoichi Motobuchi - Bulletproof Vest - Tourist Association - DECEASED
G01: Mizuho Inada - Grenades (0/2) - Clinic - DECEASED

SOTF Evolution:
Subject C01: Samantha Reynolds - Facial Morphing - The Cove - ELIMINATED

VIRTUA SOTF:
M11: Richard Ormsby - Cowbell - The Corssroads Bridge - GAME OVER
M22: William Lohman - Hockey Stick - The Corssroads Bridge - GAME OVER
If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

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February 21st, 2015, 11:48 am #220

You'd think that since the country-side/south castings are such a success, the producers might want to dig into that gold mine again, ay.

In terms of favorite locations: All of them. :`{
Second Chances Version 2 Characters:
B14: Kyran Dean | Alive - bandaged cheek with diagonal scar, bloody nose | Whatever (Catchphrase) in: Hero? But I'm a Kid Like Everyone Else | AK-47
G29: Wendy Fischer | Alive | Pantsless in: Carp Diem | Frozen 25lb Carp with no head (Mr. Dolph)

Sotf-TV Season 65 Flagship:
Gold Team Member #4 (SDA Male): Shawn Morrison | One with the Universe | Being Real in: Oracular Spectacular | Brian Peter George St. John Le Baptiste De La Salle Eno, The Deceased Boa Constrictor.

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February 22nd, 2015, 4:52 am #221

MurderWeasel wrote:It's interesting how that goes--TV1 also saw one school whittled away a lot faster than the other. I wonder what makes the game go that way; it could be random chance,but I get the feeling there might be something else at play.
I've noticed that a lot of Davison kids were carded away in one way or another this game, especially in swaps. Looking at the first rolls, we see only one Whittree kid dying(by swap, interestingly enough), and then one Davison-saving-Whittree swap, one Davison-saving-Davison swap, two Davison-saving Whittree heroes, and one Davison-saving-Davison hero.

This kind of pattern seems to hold pretty strong through the other announcements. There are exceptions, and factors such as handlers only having kids in one school or only having one kid at all, but in general Whittree gets carded for more and carded off less.

It's interesting, because some frontline analytics would suggest this should be the opposite. They have the same number of students(given the latest roster I could find without going through one by one, here) and Whittree actually has more students that simply did not make it into the game, and it looks like they also have more that were given up either through inactivity or adoption. I'm not 100% sure on this, but a cursory glance makes it looks like there are more pure Davison handlers than there are pure Whittree handlers as well, but feel free to correct me on that, I haven't done the math. Logically speaking, they should have the smaller presence.

I don't think those surface analytics do the interactive dynamic of the game justice, though. I think a big factor at play here is groups, especially ones that are interacting without being in the same thread together. Off the top of my head, I can think of two groups for Whittree, and three groups for Davison.

Whittree: Scarlet Devil Mansion(Anzu, Sarah, Caroline), Major Tom's Vagina(Regina, Vahka, Dougie, Pia.)

Davison: Davison Football Team(Matt, Davis, Isaiah, Brendan, maybe more I don't remember), Wafflehouse Crew(Matt, Isaiah, Lucy, Genevieve, maybe more?), Pre-Awesometownia(Seb, Anarchy, Shawn.)

Of these groups, SDM, Major Tom's Vagina, and Pre-Awesometownia have all interacted at the Resort. The Whittree groups have also consistently pulled other characters into the collisions between their groups in ways that affect the narratives of all involved. Awesometownia, on the other hand, remained pretty self-contained, since it formed into one solid group very early in the game, and did not disperse until two of the three original members were dead.

I'm sure there are more groups from both schools that I'm missing, but I suspect this trend would hold through. Whittree kids seem to be involved in more consistent, long term plots, both in pre-game and in the Resort, that require and engage other characters. When I think of the most impactful characters, from the perspective of being in the game at the moment, I'm thinking Jewel, SDM, the shifting team of Yagmur/Tucker/Regina/Bella, AnArchy, Corin, Marcus, all these people who lasted to stretch across multiple narratives and leave lasting marks even in places they haven't necessarily been yet.

That list is dominated by Whittree, and it's not because there aren't a lot of good Davison kids(because there are a lot of great, great Davison kids), but because a lot of the big Davison storylines are very self-focused, leaning on single characters who interact but don't partner up or stay in one mode for long. Really solid kids like Matthew, Davis, Taylor, Sebastian, Isaiah, Genni, Austin, Isabel, Shawn, Erik, Gene, and so many more whose stories and deaths, while amazing, don't have a lot of "ripple" to them, for a whole host of reasons. Their arcs lean more on themselves than on the people around them, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, many of the kids on that list are some of my favorites of the version. But I think, as a handler, that makes it easier to hero or swap them out, because it's harder to see into the future and you don't have as many plans.

I've talked before about my plans with Gabe, and how he was always meant to die, but I think this really influenced when he died to a great deal. Gabe was never, ever going to be a winner, but if I'd felt like Gabe's continued downfall had more foreseeable legs and possibilities than Vahka's story, I wouldn't have swapped him. But consider their positions at the time: Gabe's two main antagonists, Lucy and Davis, were dead. His best friend, Sebastian, was already wrapped up deep in a plot that I didn't see a place for Gabe in. He had no reason to go back to Yagmur and Lisa was already dead, ruling out the new connections he'd made in-Resort. His only other connection was Isabel, who I love to death and regret not being able to interact with more.

Contrast with Vahka, who was in an on-going partnership, as well as six close friends alive(one of whom he'd betrayed and set up as a mutual antagonist, two of which were also love interests), just for his immediate, strong connections. Of those connections, almost all of them were because of his group dynamics, of which Gabriel had none.

I don't know if this is necessarily the right answer for why one school tends to be favored over another, but it's my answer. Group interaction is very important in this medium, and I tend to think of it as one of the key ingredients of success and long-term engagement.

In terms of locations, I have a big ol' soft spot for the Bull Craps Casino.
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February 22nd, 2015, 5:18 am #222

@Doc: That's really interesting and I think there's a ton of validity to it. I have a really weird perspective on TV2's pregame interactions because I read most of them in one sitting right at the end of it to do Hammers, and as such didn't have as much of a finger on the pulse as it developed. The schools this time were also a bit closer to each other in style than in TV1 (where they were basically opposite ends of the spectrum), which made them a little less distinct in culture (not, I'd say, a bad thing--just a different one). Having just said that, though, I wonder whether the locations may have contributed to the state of affairs. Whittree is a smaller, more personal setting; it's a lot more likely for the students to know each other more intimately, in that many/most of them have probably lived near each other and attended the same schools for a long time. This, in turn, could speak to the more clumped relationships established by handlers in pregame, because iirc a good number of the groups you mentioned (maybe all of them except SDM?) weren't initially created as group concepts.

I do wonder how that then interfaces with TV1, because I can see some crossover--the longest-lasting Detroit kid was Odile, who was at the center of a pretty big network, and the Shawn/Zach/Mae trio were absolutely everywhere in pregame. Of course, TV1 also had the experimental lack of thread limits on pregame which had some effects in that area too and probably complicates the matter. Plus, Mason was sort of a dark horse contender until the final twenty or so.

I was gonna say we'd have to wait to see how that span in TV2 worked out, and then I realized we're there. Wow. 0_o
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."
[+] Spoiler
The Program V1:
M06: Karl Chalmers - American Flag - The Mess Hall - DECEASED
F09: Nichole "Nikki" Campbell - 6 Pack of Beer (0/6) - Open Ground - DECEASED

The Program V2:
M08: Alexander Bonham - Steel Folding Chair - The Pine Stands - DECEASED
F20: Robin Pounds - Stress Ball - Mountain Track - DECEASED

SOTF-TV V1:
PRP3: Karen Ruiz - Glock 17 (0/17 +1 bullet), WASP Knife, Swordcane - Over and out - ELIMINATED - "I don't find pointless death funny."
W02: Renée Carlson - Straight Razor - The Resort Beach - DECEASED

SOTF-TV V2:
SS4: Austin White - Gold Retractable Spyglass - The World Oyster - DECEASED

Second Chances V1:
G16: Nicole Husher (thanks to TBH!) - Colt Single Action Army - The Makeshift Hospital - DECEASED

Second Chances V2:
B12: Richard Ormsby - x4 Flashbang Grenades - The Ravine - DECEASED
B22: William Lohman - Winchester Model 1897 - The Ravine - DECEASED

BR AU:
B15: Shuya Nanahara - No Weapon - The School Building - DECEASED
B20: Kyoichi Motobuchi - Bulletproof Vest - Tourist Association - DECEASED
G01: Mizuho Inada - Grenades (0/2) - Clinic - DECEASED

SOTF Evolution:
Subject C01: Samantha Reynolds - Facial Morphing - The Cove - ELIMINATED

VIRTUA SOTF:
M11: Richard Ormsby - Cowbell - The Corssroads Bridge - GAME OVER
M22: William Lohman - Hockey Stick - The Corssroads Bridge - GAME OVER
If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

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February 23rd, 2015, 3:18 am #223

Shoutout to Persy for giving us the most brutal family reaction to a kid's death this version.
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February 23rd, 2015, 9:44 am #224

Oh yeah that thread is awesome.

Also, was there a TV2 scene that was very innovative/creative to you? Like, TV1's Vincent/Karen walkie-talkie scene was pretty great. I think Matt's death might be innovative.

But then again I think it was a homage of a V4 post. Now that I think about it, TV2 has some deaths that are alluding to other deaths (Eden, Lisa, Matt).
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February 23rd, 2015, 10:10 am #225

I'm not sure about flat-out innovative, but Asa's death (Which I feel like I talked about here in the not so distant past, but eh) stands out as a really solid and fairly unconventional conclusion to a story. I had no idea what form it was going to take, and it completely blew me away. It's a great melding of real and unreal, and actually makes a really interesting choice in taking some time for something that's explicitly not actually happening, except possibly in Asa's head. It's something that I think works only occasionally, and should be approached with a ton of caution, but Laure pulled it off in a way that impressed me greatly.
Current characters:

The Program: V3 Prologue:
Mina Mashall - Digital Voice Recorder - Making a good impression - "I didn't know you felt so strongly about me."
Erik Bell - Jericho .941 - Having lunch - "May I?"

SECOND CHANCES: V2:
Assorted flora and fauna

SOTF-TV V2:
EW4: Jewel Evans - Chatterbox Communicator Headsets (0/5) - Online - ELIMINATED - "Scars are just reminders to be better next time."
[+] Spoiler
The Program V1:
M06: Karl Chalmers - American Flag - The Mess Hall - DECEASED
F09: Nichole "Nikki" Campbell - 6 Pack of Beer (0/6) - Open Ground - DECEASED

The Program V2:
M08: Alexander Bonham - Steel Folding Chair - The Pine Stands - DECEASED
F20: Robin Pounds - Stress Ball - Mountain Track - DECEASED

SOTF-TV V1:
PRP3: Karen Ruiz - Glock 17 (0/17 +1 bullet), WASP Knife, Swordcane - Over and out - ELIMINATED - "I don't find pointless death funny."
W02: Renée Carlson - Straight Razor - The Resort Beach - DECEASED

SOTF-TV V2:
SS4: Austin White - Gold Retractable Spyglass - The World Oyster - DECEASED

Second Chances V1:
G16: Nicole Husher (thanks to TBH!) - Colt Single Action Army - The Makeshift Hospital - DECEASED

Second Chances V2:
B12: Richard Ormsby - x4 Flashbang Grenades - The Ravine - DECEASED
B22: William Lohman - Winchester Model 1897 - The Ravine - DECEASED

BR AU:
B15: Shuya Nanahara - No Weapon - The School Building - DECEASED
B20: Kyoichi Motobuchi - Bulletproof Vest - Tourist Association - DECEASED
G01: Mizuho Inada - Grenades (0/2) - Clinic - DECEASED

SOTF Evolution:
Subject C01: Samantha Reynolds - Facial Morphing - The Cove - ELIMINATED

VIRTUA SOTF:
M11: Richard Ormsby - Cowbell - The Corssroads Bridge - GAME OVER
M22: William Lohman - Hockey Stick - The Corssroads Bridge - GAME OVER
If you want an honest assessment of your character's storyline, feel free to PM me and I'll whip one up as soon as I am able.

Thanks to Bear/Frogue/Kotorikun/Ryuki for the avatar art.
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