Meh I've missed this community far too much and I've really gotten into Snowboard Kids again, I wonder if anyone is still here?

Tier lists always assumed best possible play and they definately exist, even with a Star Board. Wendy and Coach are clearly inferior to Jam and Linda. Their jump height is a serious liability and makes them slow to start which already hurts their very slow speed and makes them very vurnerable to projectile attacks.

I think you guys are underestimating Tommy in SBK2. He's an absolute beast on some courses and can put serious dents into the dominance that Jam and Linda hold over that game (assuming Damien is banned). Given he's not on par with either of them on average, but he can give them a good challenge.

Defensively he's got a few problems, he is not as consistant as Jam or Linda for sure, but that lack of height can make Tommy difficult to pin down on some courses. All in all Tommy's abilities vary greatly depending on where he is racing, even stretching as far as the section of track he is attacked on because some parts he can be a wall, while at other times he's very easy to hit or force him to trip over.

None of this applies to Mr. Dog because his jump height is ridiculously low which makes him laughably easy to hit and his turning abilities are notably worse than Tommy who in many cases might have the benefit of the doubt.

Damien and Shinobin should really be God tier because they would be banned if any sort of competitive play were to take place because there's no reason to choose anyone else.

Thanks Linda . We might not have met before Nicole, maybe Linda can tell me about you in the nicest most flattering way possible if you wouldn't mind .

On topic, Mr Dog is a good deal inferior to Tommy simply because even on a straight course like Wendy's house his inabilty to defend himself well prevents him from establishing any sort of control. Try continually jumping up and grabbing with Mr. Dog, it'll likely end in tears somewhere and that's not even under pressure. Tommy doesn't have this problem on most courses.

Actually Nicole, Wendy and Coach's jump height makes them the easiest characters to hit because you have much more time to hit either of them on the way down where you can't jump again which means its very easy to pressure them.

So what other cool topics are we going to revive

Low jump height is a good thing, its only when its excessively low (Mr Dog and sometimes Tommy) its a problem. It means you accelerate faster and its easier to protect yourself from projectile attacks. Jam is the exception because he has enough height to be harder to hit without being so high that he's vurnerable, in addition he's only fractionally slower than Slash and corners notably better.

Damien is faster than Linda, corners as well as Nancy and has the perfect defensive jump height, there's no doubt in my mind he should be in the God Tier because there's little reason to choose anyone else.

As for Damien on Poverty Board I believe that's only an AI thing to give it an slight advantage because the AI (Any not just Damien) does not need money to get items. So therefore if you rat face him you get nothing. I can't remember if I've tried this or not, but something is telling me that I have.

Now you've done it, I'm going to have test it now .

The point of the rat face comment is that you get next to nothing for rat facing him cus of the poverty board, and he only does one trick a lap. If he has money its likely from him rat facing someone else.

I'm game . I dunno what else to talk about though, I'm never good at starting conversation .

Anyway Damien is not faster on a Poverty Board than most characters on a Star Board but there is a signficant difference. Damien on a Poverty Board is roughly equal to Jam on a Star board, but Damien is still much faster than he should be on a Poverty board.

Damien also outpaces Linda if both are on the same board. I'm even more convinced than before that Damien should be in the God Tier.

Simply put, a character should be 'God' Tier if there's little to no reason to choose anyone else, in the case of Shinobin and Damien this definately holds true.

I don't know how his boards compare to the others, I'm not a huge fan of SBK1 because aside the rubber band AI, the game is rigged against the leader with very few ways to defend against attacks, given more than most games but SBK2 leaves it for dead in this department.

Actually for Slash and Nancy there's more to be said regarding SBK2.

Slash basically is good all around that much is true, but his jump height is not ideal while under attack. While Linda jumps quite low which makes deflecting easier and Jam jumps higher enabling him to either deflect coming up, or coming down, Slash fits awkwardly inbetween these two and its not a good thing because it's not as easy for him to defend with either method. Although he is a good well rounded choice with no other weaknesses. Simply put Slash just lacks any real strengths, which is not true for Jam or Linda. However a strong Slash player should beat a lesser Linda/Jam player a good amount of the time.

Nancy is underated I feel. She is definately mid tier because she can compete against the top tiers on occasion and definately give them a run. Her turning ability is notably better than Jam's. This does come at the cost of speed and getting a higher jump, but her ability to hold a line allows her to beeline to shots and items that most other characters may struggle to do so or lose a great amount of speed in doing.

She isn't too quick and some courses are trouble for her, but she excels on others. Unfortunately her defensive abilities are only so so, that high jump of hers is more suited to dodging which is a fine way to avoid shots, but not as good as deflecting which is generally better because it pressures the person behind you, in addition she is a tad more vurnerable when coming down then either Slash, Linda or Jam. However a good Nancy player is certainly not to be taken lightly.

Wendy, well basically she's Nancy but worse. There is no good reason to choose her, simply put. She defends worse, her turning is not much better and her speed is nowhere. There is simply no good reason to use her other than for fun.

I wouldn't mind reviving this thread.

So anyway, should we take courses into account? Because, like Linda said in SBK2, both Tommy and Mr. Dog are very weak on courses like Ice Land and Linda's Castle, but they can be fierce on courses with few sharp turns and plenty of straightaways. I should do a bit more reasearch. Of course, you guys can too if you want.