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Joined: March 28th, 2018, 9:20 am

March 28th, 2018, 9:45 am #1


I want to learn, help start. If it's not difficult for you, give references to the alphabet, spelling, etc. Я носитель русского языка.
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March 28th, 2018, 7:33 pm #2

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Joined: October 23rd, 2007, 9:20 pm

April 3rd, 2018, 12:18 am #3

Hello and welcome!

That's right. At present there are (practically) no differences anymore between Neoslavonic and Interslavic, so both sites basically present the same language.

Cheers,
Jan
Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno to? bude trudno s vsim inim.

Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански
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Joined: May 24th, 2017, 8:53 pm

April 5th, 2018, 2:17 pm #4

There are also some materials in Russian published by a volunteer here:

https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/ranma ... c/6714552/

(Be aware that it might not be a best resource, but it is still useful.)
Medžuviki, svobodna encyklopedija, ktoru vsekto može tvoriti
Please join in to creation of free encyclopedia in Interslavic language.
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Joined: September 19th, 2010, 10:55 am

April 9th, 2018, 8:49 am #5

Very interesting site with relevant notes. Some typos, some calques from Russian (perhaps dedicated handicap for Russian learners ?).
I think it would be a great improvement to re-translate Russian examples into English + Slovjansky. For example:
Ты всегда первым узнаешь. > You're always the first to know. > Ty vsegda prvy zna(je)š / věš.
Увидим, кто прав, когда всё это свершится. > We will see who is right, when all that is done. > Uvidimo / Budemo viděli _ kto je prav, kogda vse to bude gotovo.
Если что узнаешь, сообщи мне. > If you find out anything let me know. > Jestli nešto dozna(je)š, povědaj mi.
Когда выслушаете, вы убедитесь в этом. > Once you have heard it, you will see it. > Kogda posluša(je)te, presvědčite se o tom.
Они устали, поэтому крепко спали. > They were tired, so they slept soundly. > Utrudili se, tak i tvrdo spali.
Я раньше бывало ходил на рыбалку > I used to go fishing in times past. > Už nekogda jsem hodil na ryby.
Вчера я купил себе книгу. > Yesterday I bought a book for myself. > Včera jsem si kupil knigu.
Учитель повторил правило три раза. > The teacher repeated the rule three times. > Učiteľ ponovil pravidlo trikrat.
Я встал с постели, пошел в ванную, вымылся, оделся и вышел из дому. > I got out of bed, I went to the bathroom, washed, dressed and left the house. > Vstal jsem s posteli, pošel v kúpeľnicu, umyl se, oblekl se i odšel iz doma.
etc.

- uviditi ? uviděti
Glasovanje je čista gluposť. Voting is a pure nonsense.
Pi?em slovjansky. I write Slovianski.

http://www.conlangs.fora.pl/index.php
http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/dynami ... onary.html
http://dict.interslavic.com/index.jsp
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Joined: October 25th, 2017, 11:28 pm

April 25th, 2018, 6:49 am #6

bandziol20 wrote:Very interesting site with relevant notes. Some typos, some calques from Russian (perhaps dedicated handicap for Russian learners ?).
I think it would be a great improvement to re-translate Russian examples into English + Slovjansky. For example:
Ты всегда первым узнаешь. > You're always the first to know. > Ty vsegda prvy zna(je)š / věš.
Увидим, кто прав, когда всё это свершится. > We will see who is right, when all that is done. > Uvidimo / Budemo viděli _ kto je prav, kogda vse to bude gotovo.
Если что узнаешь, сообщи мне. > If you find out anything let me know. > Jestli nešto dozna(je)š, povědaj mi.
Когда выслушаете, вы убедитесь в этом. > Once you have heard it, you will see it. > Kogda posluša(je)te, presvědčite se o tom.
Они устали, поэтому крепко спали. > They were tired, so they slept soundly. > Utrudili se, tak i tvrdo spali.
Я раньше бывало ходил на рыбалку > I used to go fishing in times past. > Už nekogda jsem hodil na ryby.
Вчера я купил себе книгу. > Yesterday I bought a book for myself. > Včera jsem si kupil knigu.
Учитель повторил правило три раза. > The teacher repeated the rule three times. > Učiteľ ponovil pravidlo trikrat.
Я встал с постели, пошел в ванную, вымылся, оделся и вышел из дому. > I got out of bed, I went to the bathroom, washed, dressed and left the house. > Vstal jsem s posteli, pošel v kúpeľnicu, umyl se, oblekl se i odšel iz doma.
etc.

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Mmm... Thanks. I'm still learning the language. So, it explains a lot of calques and other stuff. I was checking with the Dynamic Dictionary though. I'm trying as much as I can to provide my thoughts and make some materials. But any help with improvements will be appreciated.
About retranslation: I'm not good at English. You might see this.
Also, it's difficult to give examples, because Interslavic still has some lacunas. I took some examples from textbooks. I used textbooks about grammar of various Slavic languages.
P.S. Some phrases are examples for imperfect and aorist. Some other are examples of South Slavic way of forming Future Tense, because of this:
wrote:Using the present tense of a perfective verb for the future (as is done in West and East Slavic) is rather to be avoided, as it can easily be misunderstood by South Slavs.
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 12:22 pm

May 2nd, 2018, 4:50 pm #7

Note that Russian also has syllabic r/l/m - вепрь, вопль, ритм

even v - битв
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
Sergij Žadan "Anarchy in the Ukr"
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Joined: October 23rd, 2007, 9:20 pm

May 12th, 2018, 12:11 am #8

Alright, but Slovene also has trepetavka > gen.pl. trepetavk. That doesn't mean it has syllabic k!
Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno to? bude trudno s vsim inim.

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Joined: September 19th, 2010, 10:55 am

May 12th, 2018, 1:44 pm #9

just to mention v (and also l) before a consonant is pronounced like w in western.
Glasovanje je čista gluposť. Voting is a pure nonsense.
Pi?em slovjansky. I write Slovianski.

http://www.conlangs.fora.pl/index.php
http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/dynami ... onary.html
http://dict.interslavic.com/index.jsp
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 12:22 pm

May 18th, 2018, 8:00 pm #10

IJzeren Jan wrote:Alright, but Slovene also has trepetavka > gen.pl. trepetavk. That doesn't mean it has syllabic k!
фильм in Russian isn't syllabic either, but ритм is

it depends on the exact pronunciation, doesn't it? My dad pronounced it [битф] instead of syllabic when I asked him
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
Sergij Žadan "Anarchy in the Ukr"
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